Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness

zapper · 2023-08-22 02:45:00

Never, ever switch from oldoldstable to stable.

When using full-upgrade, always make sure you do it only one from one version difference.

Like oldstable to stable or oldoldstable to oldstable.

If you have any stupid meanderings, feel free to post them here if they relevant. Not that I can stop people ;P

And yeah, I tried to go from beowulf to daedalus that caused me to bork a vm.

Thankfully I had backups...

GlennW · 2023-08-22 03:43:35

I feel for ya. I've tried on many distros and found the same to be true.

steve_v · 2023-08-22 06:22:18

In 20+ years, I've never seen any distro say anything but "unsupported, at own risk" with regard to skipping releases on an in-place upgrade. Devuan and upstream Debian are not exceptions.
Why would you even try it, except as an experiment?

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zapper · 2023-08-23 02:20:58

steve_v wrote:

In 20+ years, I've never seen any distro say anything but "unsupported, at own risk" with regard to skipping releases on an in-place upgrade. Devuan and upstream Debian are not exceptions.
Why would you even try it, except as an experiment?

Lack of knowledge? Ignorance? Lack of Critical thought?

These 3 are all possibilities.
I have never even seen debian or devuan say this LOL.

Although, its probable I just didn't do enough research.

But as an obvious, only two things make it okay although still largely a waste of time anyhow:

1: Its a VM

2: You have more than one copy of that same VM

That's all I can think of.

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GlennW · 2023-08-23 02:38:26

On an experimental system... as an experiment.

Biggest hurdles was when glibc version changed between install and upgrade.

zapper · 2023-08-23 02:50:04

GlennW wrote:

On an experimental system... as an experiment.
Biggest hurdles was when glibc version changed between install and upgrade.

Don't doubt something was a problem.

Funny thing, libc was the problem I had.

I have a feeling that libc was related to glibc.

So... yeah lol right on target.

I have done what I mentioned at the top before I knew what VMs where and after and until I learned how to use qemu properly.

I been working with linux for at least 8 years, on and off from before 2016 and after till I decided to completely jump the shark for good towards linux.

Windows 8.1 tripled my ram and that was why I became suspicious of windows and then chats with people who know stuff about windows, etc, etc...

Someone at a meeting asked if there was a backdoor in windows and everyone was silent.

This person told me this, on and on... won't bore you any further.

Point being, lots of screws up have occurred due to my recklessness.

Pity I didn't learn how to use VMs before I decided to distrohop. This would have saved me 5+ years of agonizing irritation.

golinux · 2023-08-23 03:04:44

zapper wrote:

I have never even seen debian or devuan say this LOL.

First sentence of the third paragraph on:
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-daedalus
Note that skipping releases is not supported.

zapper wrote:

Although, its probable I just didn't do enough research.

You think?

zapper · 2023-08-23 19:10:28

golinux wrote:

zapper wrote:
I have never even seen debian or devuan say this LOL.
First sentence of the third paragraph on:
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-daedalus
Note that skipping releases is not supported.
Does it say that for every release?
If so, yeah your definitely right.
zapper wrote:
Although, its probable I just didn't do enough research.
You think?

I wouldn't doubt that

Glad I know now even though I don't use devuan as much.

I can help others to not make the same dumb errors.

Btw, unrelated, but surprised you liked that rant I sent. Usually you either say nothing or are not so fond of it.

As I sent in a forum email, I was surprised by this.

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