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semil

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Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

I startx on one vt (pretty minimal, starts up a window manager).

I try to startx again on another vt — same user or different user — and it fails. seatd says "Could not add client: seat is VT-bound and has an active client".

Since I don’t know whether being VT-bound is good or bad, I found SEATD_VTBOUND=0 and tried that on the seatd invocation. But seatd is still unhappy because it still sees an active client regardless.

I presume switching away from a vt is supposed to make an X session become *not* active somehow.

delgado

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Re: Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

But you did something like startx -- :1, right?

semil

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Re: Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

I have always been using a plain startx in each, but using startx -- :1 for the second one fails in the same way.

semil

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Re: Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

Would it be more appropriate to have this topic moved to a lower-level subforum where more of the right people might see it, since, strictly speaking, this subforum suggests being about things running on X and not about getting X to run.

If this forum is even capable of moving topics, that is.

ralph.ronnquist

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Re: Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

I'm not sure there is a bug report, but that particular issue of having multiple Xorg (in different VT) with seatd, is currently being worked on, and I believe an update is coming fairly soon.

golinux

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Re: Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

If this forum is even capable of moving topics, that is.

Yes. If appropriate.

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semil

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Re: Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

I'm not sure there is a bug report, but that particular issue of having multiple Xorg (in different VT) with seatd, is currently being worked on, and I believe an update is coming fairly soon.

I’m glad to know that!

I don’t see a bug report, but I’m not experienced with the bug tracker.

semil

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Re: Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

Given that I won’t be using that Daedalus system regularly until this has been fixed, what is the most efficient way to check periodically from somewhere else whether the fix has happened yet?

semil

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Re: Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

One possibility might be to look at

https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=xorg
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=*seat*

each day. I would have to recognize when version numbers had changed.

semil

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Re: Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

Another possibility is probably within the infinitude of git.devuan.org. Maybe something will happen on some branch in https://git.devuan.org/devuan/xorg-server/branches as an indication of code getting into Daedalus. Or maybe not. That might be not the right region of git at all.

GlennW

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Re: Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

I remember being able to have more than one GUI running on different tty's... but that went away and couldn't be done the same way.

Hoping for innovation.

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ralph.ronnquist

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Re: Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions

Yes, https://git.devuan.org/devuan/xorg-server is where it happens. The review process of a fix is in full swing so you may hold your breath. well, maybe not... breath easy, but expect there's something coming soon.