Update fails - xserver-xorg-core "loses keyboard and mouse"

Geoff 42 · 2017-08-02 15:17:36

My Devuan Jessie machine has been running happily for a long time now, but when I try my usual

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

it finds lots of packages, mainly from jessie-security,
and downloads then. On checking the bug reports it says :-

Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
grave bugs of xserver-xorg-core (2:1.16.4-1 → 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1+b1) <Outstanding>
 b1 - #868068 - [xserver-xorg-core] Upgrade from 2:1.16.4-1 to 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1 loses keyboard and mouse
Summary:
 xserver-xorg-core(1 bug)
Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages? [Y/n/?/...] n
**********************************************************************
****** Exiting with an error in order to stop the installation. ******
**********************************************************************
E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs apt returned an error code (10)
E: Failure running script /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs apt

I tell it to not upgrade, as losing the mouse and keyboard sounds a bit serious.
I have left it for a few days and tried again, in case there was a a glitch in the packaging system, but it still produces the same result.
Checking up I can see the reported bug at Debian :-

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=868068

Is this a problem with using jessie-security?

Geoff

greenjeans · 2017-08-02 19:49:05

Wow, this seems serious, looks like it may not occur on all machines, I will logout and test one of my other partitions and post back.

EDIT: Hey, can you post the model/make of your machine?

Last edited by greenjeans (2017-08-02 19:50:20)

greenjeans · 2017-08-02 20:17:26

Okay, tested one machine, Compaq CQ58, about a 2012 model, dual-core AMD APU (at a tortoise-like and underwhelming clock speed of 1.0 ghz), no issues with Devuan openbox 64 bit, mouse and keyboard work fine so far.

darry1966 · 2017-08-03 06:50:31

I know from personal experience that when I was using Sid that there was problems with xorg with mouse freezing and the answer was to install xorg-xserver-legacy.

Woops package not in Jessie. Dist-upgraded today in Jessie no problems.

Last edited by darry1966 (2017-08-03 06:58:29)

Geoff 42 · 2017-08-03 08:29:44

greenjeans wrote:

EDIT: Hey, can you post the model/make of your machine?

My machine has a Gigabyte H87-HD3 Intel H87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard, with an Intel Core i5-4570 3.20 GHz processor.
It uses the in-built Intel graphics.
Linux fluorine 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2+deb8u1 (2017-06-18) x86_64 GNU/Linux

The general set up (or rather how I got here) is described at :-

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=92

Geoff

Geoff 42 · 2017-08-10 08:42:57

I have now tried disabling the updates and security repositories, and the result is that

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

still wants to upgrade to xserver-xorg-core 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1, which still has the warning "loses keyboard and mouse".

I have still not let it upgrade while getting the warning.

Geoff

Geoff 42 · 2017-08-12 15:43:11

greenjeans wrote:

Okay, tested one machine, Compaq CQ58, about a 2012 model, dual-core AMD APU (at a tortoise-like and underwhelming clock speed of 1.0 ghz), no issues with Devuan openbox 64 bit, mouse and keyboard work fine so far.

Thank you for testing this. What version of xserver-xorg-core do you now have installed?

Geoff

FOSSuser · 2017-08-12 16:24:40

Likely this is why I've been getting freezes when online, Firefox, after several quick changes of websites!
It is in Devuan when you install & upgrade - maybe we shouldn't upgrade - just stay with the 'live' install as is, likewise I upgraded Vuu-Do, & it happens on it too.

xserver-xorg-core/unknown,now 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1+b1 amd64 [installed,automatic]

Edit: I'm not sure what is on the original distros.
Edit2: My mouse does come back after several minutes, or at least, it feels like it.

Last edited by FOSSuser (2017-08-12 16:27:45)

fungus · 2017-08-12 22:16:09

My problem is listed on http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1534
I somehow thing the two are related.
I am on ceres
CPU: Intel 2 Duo E6550 (2) @ 2.333GHz
GPU: Intel Q35

When ANY dm comes up to the login screen both key/mouse freeze. Both are usb and very common generix pieces.
I finally figured that if I pull the plugs off and put them back on the problem vanishes and only shows up on next boot.
Weird?
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 148f:2770 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2770 Wireless Adapter
Bus 006 Device 003: ID 0461:4dbf Primax Electronics, Ltd
Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d:c05a Logitech, Inc. M90/M100 Optical Mouse

My Miyo Ascii installation has no problems at all. The one that does was a clean Devuan 1 installer system.

FOSSuser · 2017-08-13 07:26:33

Forgot to mention, most of my freezes were on laptops, using the touchpads, however, it did happen on my desktop, but that seems to be OK now.

Yesterday, I added a battery state monitor to conky on my Vuu-Do installs, today, I didn't get a freeze - go figure.......

fungus · 2017-08-13 09:47:57

the problem now appears on my ascii installation just the same as it started on ceres 3 days ago

Geoff 42 · 2017-08-13 09:51:27

FOSSuser wrote:

xserver-xorg-core/unknown,now 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1+b1 amd64 [installed,automatic]

I am still have version 2:1.16.4-1 installed and it is running nicely. According to Synaptic it is from the stable/main repository, which is now offering your version.

When I checked the Debian bug report, it is still outstanding and there does not appear to be any progress.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=868068

Geoff

Geoff 42 · 2017-08-13 14:46:23

I have just spotted some new posts on Debian bug report, which suggest that unplugging the keyboard and mouse and plugging back in may help, although this is not really a proper solution, but may help the de-bugging.

Geoff

fungus · 2017-08-13 18:23:55

That was mine and on the other thread about ceres freezing up I have mentioned it days ago

greenjeans · 2017-08-14 19:32:01

FOSSuser wrote:

Likely this is why I've been getting freezes when online, Firefox, after several quick changes of websites!
It is in Devuan when you install & upgrade - maybe we shouldn't upgrade - just stay with the 'live' install as is, likewise I upgraded Vuu-Do, & it happens on it too.
xserver-xorg-core/unknown,now 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1+b1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
Edit: I'm not sure what is on the original distros.
Edit2: My mouse does come back after several minutes, or at least, it feels like it.

Got to be machine-specific then, I upgraded the xserver-xorg-core to the same version listed, two different machines (Compaq and an HP, both laptops), 3 different versions of Vuu-do, and no issues here as yet.

greenjeans · 2017-08-14 19:37:42

Geoff 42 wrote:

greenjeans wrote:
Okay, tested one machine, Compaq CQ58, about a 2012 model, dual-core AMD APU (at a tortoise-like and underwhelming clock speed of 1.0 ghz), no issues with Devuan openbox 64 bit, mouse and keyboard work fine so far.
Thank you for testing this. What version of xserver-xorg-core do you now have installed?
Geoff

2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1+b1 , have it installed now on a couple of different machines, 5 total partitions/installs, Vuu-do and also my stock Devuan and Miyo installs and no issues.

Looks like it's very much machine-specific, some hardware runs it fine, and others not so much.

Not for nothing, but both my lappys are running AMD APU's, you guys who are experiencing issues could you add CPU/APU/GPU info? Might be an Intel issue, or Nvidia....

FOSSuser · 2017-08-15 08:26:33

I only mentioned it, because when I checked, I was running that version of xserver-xorg-core.

I'm beginning to think my problem is FF related, as it doesn't always happen, & not at/in the same time frame after starting.

May have been just a coincidence it happening when others were getting freezes on their machines.

Edit: Another coincidence is the fact that I had just installed both Devuan & Vuu-Do to my actual hardware.

Last edited by FOSSuser (2017-08-15 08:32:19)

fungus · 2017-08-15 22:51:54

I always liked AMD but my last precious all AMD machine was stolen.
I only buy what I can get between 50-100 and I am happy. Usually
a refurb Dell with a year warranty.

$ lspci -tv
-[0000:00]-+-00.0  Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express DRAM Controller
           +-01.0-[01]--
           +-02.0  Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           +-02.1  Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           +-03.0  Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express MEI Controller
           +-03.2  Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express PT IDER Controller
           +-03.3  Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Serial KT Controller
           +-19.0  Intel Corporation 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection
           +-1a.0  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4
           +-1a.1  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5
           +-1a.7  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2
           +-1b.0  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
           +-1c.0-[02]--
           +-1d.0  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1
           +-1d.1  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2
           +-1d.2  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3
           +-1d.7  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1
           +-1e.0-[03]--
           +-1f.0  Intel Corporation 82801IO (ICH9DO) LPC Interface Controller
           +-1f.2  Intel Corporation 82801IR/IO/IH (ICH9R/DO/DH) 6 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
           \-1f.3  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller

Last edited by fungus (2017-08-15 22:54:29)

Geoff 42 · 2017-08-16 09:47:24

I have now upgraded the other packages, not involved in this query.

The method I chose was to use Synaptic.
Click "Reload".
then bottom left, select "Status" ad then upper left select "Installed (upgradable)".
This displays all of the installed packages which can be upgraded.
Scroll down to the queried package "xserver-xorg-core" and click on it.
Click on the Package pull down menu and select "Force version".
This will pop-up a window which allows you to select which version you want on your machine. I selected the old version.
Just to be safe I also selected a couple of other apparently related packages with the same versions installed/available and forced their versions.
Then simply click on "Mark All Upgrades".
You can check that the ones that you have forced will not be upgraded.
Click on "Apply" and it will then upgrade all of the other packages. I did notice a warning about Firefox failing to display YouTube correctly, but let it proceed as that can be worked around if necessary.

Geoff

Last edited by Geoff 42 (2017-08-16 09:48:15)

fungus · 2017-08-18 16:45:43

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1534

As I wrote on the above, due to updates not my own involvement, my problem with freezing mouse/k-b has been magically cured in ceres. Still exists on ascii.

Geoff 42 · 2017-11-23 10:26:45

Have updated my repositories, on my main desktop, to the Amprolla3 ones, as per :-

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1723

I have now looked at updating and upgrading. As the new repositories include stable-proposed-updates, I checked the versions and synaptic reports :-

2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2 (stable-proposed-updates)

2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1+b1 (stable)

It took a bit of fiddling, but eventually I persuaded synaptic to install the deb8u2 version and everything (i.e. X) still works nicely.

I am not very well up on the version numbers, but does the "+b1" part refer to a bug report?

Geoff

fsmithred · 2017-11-25 13:44:44

It's safer if you use codenames. Use "jessie" instead of "stable" and "ascii" rather than "testing." When ascii becomes the stable release, you can change sources.list to say "ascii" instead of "jessie." That way, you get to decide when you do the dist-upgrade instead of running into it when it happens.

Geoff 42 · 2017-11-25 18:04:22

I only use the codenames, as in "jessie" in the repositories, but synaptic seems to report the versions as being from "stable". Also, if you select the "origin" display in synaptic, then the repositories are shown as "stable" etc. They are all from "pkgmaster.devuan.org".

Geoff

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