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#1 2022-06-09 19:07:09

deepforest
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Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

All working before kernel was updated to 5.18 So this legacy driver from Ceres repo not patched for this kernel?

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#2 2022-06-09 21:55:38

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

even this trick not works https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/tag/debian/

Xorg log https://pastebin.com/raw/pC6yksyD

What is wrong with Ceres?

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#3 2022-06-09 22:05:11

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

What is right with ceres? It is "unstable" after all . . .

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#4 2022-06-09 23:45:26

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

Ok. For me all works normal until now. Both "unstable" Sid and Ceres, only this two deb based distros that bring me worked nvidia 340 drivers. But now something broken. How to fix?

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#5 2022-06-10 09:00:22

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

deepforest wrote:

How to fix?

Ask NVIDIA to stop being such a bunch of twats. Or buy a graphics card from a manufacturer that doesn't hate the open source community.

This is not a Devuan problem, it is an NVIDIA problem.


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#6 2022-06-10 13:24:25

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
deepforest wrote:

How to fix?

Ask NVIDIA to stop being such a bunch of twats. Or buy a graphics card from a manufacturer that doesn't hate the open source community.

This is not a Devuan problem, it is an NVIDIA problem.

Before 5.18 all works and working on Fedora 36 but not on Ceres. Community patching drivers for new kernels. But now on Ceres drivers not working, why?

On Ceres this driver even installing with error now. On 5.17 all works.
Patched driver for 5.18 installed ok, but not starting.

This is problem of Debian or Devuan?

Last edited by deepforest (2022-06-10 13:31:32)

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#7 2022-06-10 15:30:30

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

This trick is working

https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/ … a-patcher/

you need add to xorg.conf this lines to working

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "IgnoreABI" "1"
EndSection

This is Debian issue

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#8 2022-06-10 16:00:59

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

deepforest wrote:

This is Debian issue

Not really. Even if you are correct the proprietary drivers are not part of the official distribution.


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#9 2022-06-10 16:06:59

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
deepforest wrote:

This is Debian issue

Not really. Even if you are correct the proprietary drivers are not part of the official distribution.

So Devuan issue? I have error("driver not installed") after installing 340 driver from Devuan Ceres repo on 5.18. On 5.17 all installing and works good.

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#10 2022-06-10 16:22:32

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

The proprietary drivers are not part of the official Devuan release either.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2022-06-10 16:22:46)


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#11 2022-06-11 01:28:18

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The proprietary drivers are not part of the official Devuan release either.

Why? Devuan not supported any proprietary drivers!?

ps in my case, 340 is still supported bu Debian Sid, or i am wrong? Sid been supported 340 untill 5.17, what happend now?

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#12 2022-06-11 03:52:33

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Ask NVIDIA to stop being such a bunch of twats. Or buy a graphics card from a manufacturer that doesn't hate the open source community.

This is not a Devuan problem, it is an NVIDIA problem.

Correct, this has to do with the GPU and its manufacturer's disdain for the open-source community. Even Intel contributes to them.

This has nothing at all to do with whether or not you're using the unstable versions of either Debian or Devuan. Some workarounds exist, but are not foolproof.

Have a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ


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#13 2022-06-11 10:58:43

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

deepforest wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The proprietary drivers are not part of the official Devuan release either.

Why? Devuan not supported any proprietary drivers!?

Because the source code is not available. The drivers are available from the non-free component of the repositories as a convenience for users but that component is not considered part of the official release.


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#14 2022-06-11 11:58:04

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
deepforest wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The proprietary drivers are not part of the official Devuan release either.

Why? Devuan not supported any proprietary drivers!?

Because the source code is not available. The drivers are available from the non-free component of the repositories as a convenience for users but that component is not considered part of the official release.

and what? nvidia have linux driver that patched by community for new kernels. so its devuan or debian issue that it not apply patched diver in his repo.

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#15 2022-06-11 12:31:25

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

Devuan aren't going to patch the kernel to fix a problem introduced by NVIDIA. That would be ridiculous.


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#16 2022-06-11 13:17:48

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Devuan aren't going to patch the kernel to fix a problem introduced by NVIDIA. That would be ridiculous.

Problem already fixed https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvidia-340xx
Devuan or Devian devs must just add it to repo

ps for me working this solution https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/ … a-patcher/

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#17 2022-06-11 13:25:35

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Re: Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work

deepforest wrote:

Devian devs must just add it to repo

And I'm sure they will. Eventually.

Starting threads here and over at forums.debian.net will not get the attention of the NVIDIA driver Debian maintainers and it will not speed the update in any way. In particular forums.debian.net is almost entirely a user-based forum with very few Debian developers visiting.


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