[Solved] Conversion from Debian Stretch to Devuan Ascii

supusr · 2017-06-01 22:39:16

I currently use debian testing (stretch) with the following repositories:

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main

Could I change these sources somehow to perform a conversion to devuan ascii? If so, what would the process be?

Last edited by supusr (2017-06-01 23:47:39)

golinux · 2017-06-01 23:06:48

supusr wrote:

Could I change these sources somehow to perform a conversion to devuan ascii? If so, what would the process be?

I don't think it's possible to go from stretch to ASCII. The upgrade feature was only intended for going from Debian Wheezy or Jessie to Devuan Jessie. I think ASCII will require a new install.

supusr · 2017-06-01 23:46:53

Very well. Thanks.

zapper · 2017-06-02 00:11:55

golinux wrote:

supusr wrote:
Could I change these sources somehow to perform a conversion to devuan ascii? If so, what would the process be?
I don't think it's possible to go from stretch to ASCII. The upgrade feature was only intended for going from Debian Wheezy or Jessie to Devuan Jessie. I think ASCII will require a new install.

Yep, I learned that the hard way... my computer went off and I had to reinstall...

miroR · 2017-07-07 20:52:22

It *may* be possible to convert Debian Stretch to Devuan Ascii... It may be possible.
Out of time, busy elsewhere, but study from here:

Linkname: Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch)
URL: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1115

Regards!

miroR · 2017-07-08 21:56:07

UPDATE: pls. don't stop reading here. I stand corrected by a senior member in the next post (the rest in this remains as I wrote it yesterday, untouched).
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There is one important thing to make clear, and our own devs learned it the hard way (first encounter with such issue):
Warning: Don't upgrade ASCII until merged is corrected
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 9d.en.html
but see nearby messages in the thread where the subject changed, where all is clear what happened.

What was back then Debian Testing branch was Debian Stretch, back when I updated my Devuan Jessie with that Debian Stretch.

And Debian Stretch corresponded/correlated/you-name-the-relation with Devuan Ascii.

But now it is not so anymore.

The Debian Testing branch is now Debian Buster, and now Debian Buster is what is, to some extent, looked at for developing Devuan Ascii.

And instead Debian Stretch is now Debian Stable, so it correlates with Devuan Jessie.

So, what in the past months was referred to as relationship/correlation/whatever for conversion from-to, btwn Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii is now not so (like in the warning and the thread that ensued on Devuan DNG Mailing List)!

Instead, that relationship is now btwn:

Devuan Ascii and Debian Buster.

To some extent, because Devuan is its own distro, although originally a fork of Debian.

I thought newbies might need this information.

Last edited by miroR (2017-07-09 23:05:25)

golinux · 2017-07-08 22:37:39

miroR wrote:

What was back then Debian Testing branch was Debian Stretch, back when I updated my Devuan Jessie with that Debian Stretch.
And Debian Stretch corresponded/correlated/you-name-the-relation with Devuan Ascii.
But now it is not so anymore.

Devuan ASCII is still based on Stretch. The problem was that Stretch moved from testing to stable and the script was tracking testing so was polluted with stuff from Buster.

miroR wrote:

The Debian Testing branch is now Debian Buster, and now Debian Buster is what is, to some extent, looked at for developing Devuan Ascii.

NO!! Unless I've totally missed something, Ceres is now tracking Buster. And as said above ASCII is tracking Stretch.

Eventually, Buster will be Devuan's Beowulf.

miroR · 2017-07-09 23:02:32

golinux wrote:

miroR wrote:
What was back then Debian Testing branch was Debian Stretch, back when I updated my Devuan Jessie with that Debian Stretch.
And Debian Stretch corresponded/correlated/you-name-the-relation with Devuan Ascii.
But now it is not so anymore.
Devuan ASCII is still based on Stretch. The problem was that Stretch moved from testing to stable and the script was tracking testing so was polluted with stuff from Buster.
miroR wrote:
The Debian Testing branch is now Debian Buster, and now Debian Buster is what is, to some extent, looked at for developing Devuan Ascii.
NO!! Unless I've totally missed something, Ceres is now tracking Buster. And as said above ASCII is tracking Stretch.
Eventually, Buster will be Devuan's Beowulf.

Well, thanks, kind golinux for exhaustive explanation... You live, you learn, you fail, you succeed... C'est la vie!

golinux · 2017-07-10 01:00:43

miroR wrote:

golinux wrote:
miroR wrote:
What was back then Debian Testing branch was Debian Stretch, back when I updated my Devuan Jessie with that Debian Stretch.
And Debian Stretch corresponded/correlated/you-name-the-relation with Devuan Ascii.
But now it is not so anymore.
Devuan ASCII is still based on Stretch. The problem was that Stretch moved from testing to stable and the script was tracking testing so was polluted with stuff from Buster.
miroR wrote:
The Debian Testing branch is now Debian Buster, and now Debian Buster is what is, to some extent, looked at for developing Devuan Ascii.
NO!! Unless I've totally missed something, Ceres is now tracking Buster. And as said above ASCII is tracking Stretch.
Eventually, Buster will be Devuan's Beowulf.
Well, thanks, kind golinux for exhaustive explanation... You live, you learn, you fail, you succeed... C'est la vie!

That oopsie was pretty confusing and something undoubtedly got lost 'in translation'. But all's well that ends well, Onward to ASCII and Beowulf, my friend!

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#1 2017-06-01 22:39:16

[Solved] Conversion from Debian Stretch to Devuan Ascii

#2 2017-06-01 23:06:48

Re: [Solved] Conversion from Debian Stretch to Devuan Ascii

#3 2017-06-01 23:46:53

Re: [Solved] Conversion from Debian Stretch to Devuan Ascii

#4 2017-06-02 00:11:55

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#5 2017-07-07 20:52:22

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#6 2017-07-08 21:56:07

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