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Altoid

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Registered: 2017-05-07

Posts: 1,699  

Access to CUPS archives denied

Hello:

Ever since I installed CUPS in my Devuan systems, my go-to source of information (besides Dev1) was the https://www.cups.org/ web site.

A couple of days go I had an issue I wanted to search for and went to the archives page, only to be greeted with this:

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Forbidden
You don't have permission to access this resource.
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I thought that to be very strange as this was not a web page (404 Not found) problem.
I recall having accesed the archives page last May without seeing this.

But I was still receiving posts by list members and was able to post to the list. ie: posts did not bounce.
But unable to check the archives to see what was going on.

So I sent an email to cups-owner asking about this and got this rather cryptic reply:

More recent cups related stuff can be found at openprinting.org.
When apple bought cups, those lists went to their servers.
Mike quietly left apple years ago, and it appears that apple has removed the lists.
They own "cups". So Mike had to make a new name.

'Mike' refers to Michael R. Sweet, original developer of CUPS and Gimp-Print /Gutenprint who left Apple late December 2019.

Much to my chagrin, a second email asking for additional information was not replied to.

I then posted to the OpenPrinting GitHUb page asking about this and right away received a reply from M.R. Sweet himself:

Unfortunately, lists.cups.org is an Apple-managed site and we have no control over its contents or configuration...
The printing-users and printing-architecture lists on kernel.org are the current place for discussing printing-related issues.

Right ...

Whatever has transpired here is not good, not at all.
Unless there is an accesible mirror hidden somewhere, the lists.cups.org archives are, to all intent and purpose, gone.
Sequestered by Apple Inc. and with it, many years of useful CUPS related information.

Heads up:

These are the links to the current place for discussing CUPS printing-related issues.

printing-users              Linux printing list for end users to discuss printing issues / feature requests
printing-architecture   Printing architecture under Linux

The layout is definitely strange ie: not the usual mailing list layout.
But it is there.

[rant]
Over the years, I ended up getting used to Apple and the shenanigans I read about in the press.
Eventually nothing surprised me.

But this? ...  8^ |    <---- Oracle did worse yet with the Sun Microsystems lists and file downloads.
[/rant]

That's all.

Best,

A.

Last edited by Altoid (2025-04-23 21:50:18)

greenjeans

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Re: Access to CUPS archives denied

Arrgh...apple...bonjour...cups-browsed...hot mess is what it is.

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rbit

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Registered: 2018-06-12

Posts: 52  

Re: Access to CUPS archives denied

You were on the wrong archive page.  Try this one https://web.archive.org/web/20250209214 … mail/cups/

Last edited by rbit (2025-04-23 23:27:06)

Altoid

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Registered: 2017-05-07

Posts: 1,699  

Re: Access to CUPS archives denied

Hello:

You were on the wrong archive page.

I beg to differ: I was on the right page.
The one belonging to lists.cups.org, now inaccessible.

Try this one ...

Great find ...  8^D

But that is a Wayback Machine snapshot, unsearchable (?). 

Thanks for your input.

Best,

A.