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#1 Re: Installation » Latest Excalibur desktop installer forces LXQt? » 2025-11-11 22:17:12

Hello:

Lomax wrote:

... how to get rid of the cruft installed along with LXQt ...

You can start by first making a list to check if there is any.
eg:

$ apt list | grep installed | grep -i lxqt

Best,

A.

#2 Re: Other Issues » usb pendrive always mounted as read-only » 2025-11-10 21:39:19

Hello:

Welcome back ...
I was wondering what happened to your USB sticks. 8^°

Panda1100 wrote:

... bios ...
... turned off usb charging.

Hmm ...
Could be, but then it would imply a severe hardware malfunction or BIOS problem.
USB ports have (should have) protection to avoid excess current draw and damage, particularly those that can be used for charging.
It is part of the design parameters of any on-board / external USB socket.

Panda1100 wrote:

... (those I didn't plug yet) work perfectly.

I see.

For the sake of completion to this thread, I think that it would be of interest to the forum (and you) to know some details.
[please humour me]

Reason?
Although not by any means the same quality of the legendary IBM T43 Thinkpad, today's Lenovo Thinkpad T400 is not a toy laptop on which such a thing would just happen, so it would be good to check a couple of things which may be of interest.

What brand and model are the USB sticks you used before and use now?
What does the dmesg printout say after you plug in one of the non-functioning sticks?

Please post the output.

With that same stick plugged in, please bring up gparted.
Does the stick show up? ie: /dev/sdx
If so, can you format it to 'cleared' first and then to 'fat32'?

Let's see if we can get to the bottom of this within a reasonable time frame.  8^D!

Best,

A.

#3 Re: News & Announcements » Announcing Devuan 6.0 Excalibur! » 2025-11-10 12:41:16

Hello:

brocashelm wrote:

I'll be staying on Daedalus.

So will I.

brocashelm wrote:

... even LXDE itself.

Don't get me started, I have XFCE ...

Some time ago I posted about the need(?) to upgrade from Daedalus to Excalibur.
A very relevant question if you run on ca. 2007 hardware.
Not a Mickey Mouse job, a high quality workstation* working as well as new.
Suits all my needs, no issues.

brocashelm wrote:

... significantly more bloated and resource-hungry ...

Indeed ...

in that post I wrote:

In the 10+ years I have been running on Linux I have seen the size of each release grow and grow and cannot but wonder what more is in store.
eg:
Devuan Chimaera netinstall *.iso: 372.00 MB - UEFI installer:   0.754 MB
Devuan Daedalus netinstall *.iso: 477.80 MB - UEFI installer:  23.000 MB
30X more code was added to the UEFI partition on the road between Chimaera and Daedalus.

Frankly, I do not think I can expect anything in the way of improvements for my hardware.

I have not seen a suitable explanation for the 30X additional code [ie: just WTF does it do?] but I strongly suspect that it holds something akin to a separate/independent OS.

The problem at hand is that there seems to be no alternative in sight.
Or any indication that there will, at some point, be one.

Maybe we have to carve ourselves a future in the [whatever]BSD arena?  8^/

Best,

A.

* Sun Microsystems U24 - Released by Sun 10/2007 - EOL'd by Oracle 10/2009.

#4 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] AMD or nvidia? » 2025-11-07 01:54:14

Hello:

rations wrote:

... advice on AMD or nvidia ...

- no one really needs bleeding edge, choose your hardware carefully
- new & shiny is always expensive and isn't necessarily the best choice *
- avoid any and all NVidia stuff like the plague.
- AMD video cards are excellent and have much better Linux support

* I run Devuan on a ca. 2007 Sun Microsystems U24 WS purchased used and upgraded 11/2015

Best,

A.

#6 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Concurrent filecopy over USB / onto NAS » 2025-11-05 11:13:49

Hello:

steve_v wrote:

Much as I rate rsync ...

I got severely burned using rsync once, most probably my fault as it is really tricky to get right.
So I stopped using it but I rely on BackInTime which uses it without any issues.

steve_v wrote:

... most of the time I actually use midnight commander.
Norton had file management pretty well nailed ...

Same here
NC was my preferred tool in those DOS/W3.11 days.

Best,

A.

#7 Re: Other Issues » No Jami in Excalibur » 2025-11-04 20:29:20

Hello:

Calamity wrote:

... must be a reason for the disappearance of particular versions ...
... visit the software's website to see ...

Curiously enough, the jami website does offer Debian (12, 11, testing and unstable) versions for download albeit from their own repository:
https://jami.net/download-jami-linux/

Maybe it is all due to some spat between the systemd-kingdom and the jamis?

Calamity wrote:

... suitable software alternatives in the repositories.

Yes, there's jitsi which I have seen works well enough.

Best,

A.

#8 Re: Other Issues » No Jami in Excalibur » 2025-11-03 15:45:24

Hello:

seeker wrote:

... in Daedalus, but it seems to have disappeared in Excalibur.

Indeed ...

As you can see, there does not seem to be a jami package in Debian stable:
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=jami
No idea why ...
But it is in unstable and experimental.

As a result, there is no jami package in Devuan Excalibur:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … 1.84.27.71
ie: not in the Debian repositories? Then it will not be in the Devuan repositories.

Will the Daedalus version install/run on Excalibur?
Can't say, never used it.

That said, if it was in the Debian repositories and it is not there now (-> degraded to testing), there must be something going on.

Best,

A.

#9 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Cannot upgrade chimaera to daedalus - wacom-dependency failure » 2025-11-03 11:05:34

Hello:

slashmais wrote:

How can I fix this?

You may be able to solve it by first manually installing the dependency.
ie: libwacom-common (= 2.6.0-1)

Once installed and present in the system, the dist-upgrade should go smoothly as apt will find it and proceed.

See:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … 1.84.27.71

https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/libwacom-common   <- 2.14.0-1
https://packages.debian.org/trixie/libwacom-common   <- 2.6.0-1

If that does not work, you may have to uninstall whatever requires libwacom-common before the dist-upgrade.

See here: https://packages.debian.org/search?suit … s=libwacom
It would seem that libwacom2 in Chimaera has been replaced with libwacom9 in Daedalus, Excalibur and Ceres.

See
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … 1.84.27.71 <- Chimaera and earlier
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … 1.84.27.71 <- Daedalus and later

Let us know how you fared with this.

Best,

A.

#10 Re: Installation » Latest Excalibur desktop installer forces LXQt? » 2025-11-02 20:31:00

Hello:

Lomax wrote:

... a bug in the installer?

Hmm ...
You may want to consider the possibility of the Excalibur installer becoming self-aware.
And as a result, defending itself from XFCE.

Just taking the piss ...

Best,

A.

#11 Re: Off-topic » Question: Best/fastest repos in general for each continent? » 2025-11-02 20:23:22

Hello:

greenjeans wrote:

... if deb.devuan.org isn't working out for them.

I do not recall ever having had any issues with deb.devuan.org*, save for those generated by my FO service provider. 8^°
* ie: -34.60° lat -58.38° long

Best,

A.

#12 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-02 11:49:27

Hello:

debian developer wrote:

... and not be held back by trying to shoehorn modern software on retro computing devices.

Of course ...  8^°

--->

Tech *bros* have to make a living. 
Make ends meet, if you will.
Have you not been observing?
There are still many landfills to fill.

<---
Hard Sun wrote:

... would tell you this is great news ...

Yes, he would.

I take small confort in the fact that Civilisation (in general) has always had an incredibly over-abundant supply of [braindead / stupid / DHs / AHs]*.
That little snippet from the debian_dev only confirms it.

* choose one, a combination of two or even three. But a combination of four is not an option, lest depression set in.

Best,

A.

#13 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] Where is Veracrypt? » 2025-10-31 20:00:10

Hello:

Duke Nukem wrote:

... not in the menus and not found by a file search or by command line.

You may want to run a fine tooth comb through all your logs, just in case.
There has to be / should be some indication as to what transpired when you installed it.

Should not be an issue if you got it from the Devuan repository,but still.

Have a look here: https://linux.die.net/man/8/tcplay

Best,

A.

#14 Re: Installation » Obmenu » 2025-10-31 18:40:00

Hello:

MiyoLinux wrote:

Might be a longshot, but ...

I had thought of doing that but decided not to bother the chap with this.
But seeing that I have not made much progress, I just fired a short one asking.

Hopefully he will pitch in.

Best,

A.

#15 Re: Installation » Obmenu » 2025-10-31 18:27:46

Hello:

zephyr wrote:

... obmenu2 on Crowz, try downloading tarbal ...

greenjeans wrote:

Thanks, saw those already.
But I was wanting to have the #! *.deb file to directly install in my upcoming Daedalus test.
And try it out on my Devuan Chimaera i386 1000HE installation.

greenjeans wrote:

Not sure what Miyo meant by downloading a .deb from an install ...

Hmm ...
Exactly that? Maybe ...
I don't have an installation, just a live i386 *.iso and I haven't seen it there.

Thanks for your input.

Best,

A.

#16 Re: Installation » Obmenu » 2025-10-31 15:24:01

Hello:

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

maybe it's from ...

Yes, I'm quite sure of that as it seems (?) to be of their own production.
And it is part of the #! installation, at least for Bookworm.

But I have not seen it available for download or found it within the live i386 *.iso.

Thanks for your input.

Best,

A.

#17 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » "Partial ACPI Installation" on MacBook5,2 » 2025-10-31 12:30:31

Hello:

kapqa wrote:

here are some additional info

Thanks for that.  8^)

But what I am interested in is knowing if / how the OP actually solved the issue.
Or not and what steps he took while attempting to do it.
All useful information for the forum.

ie: towards getting Devuan installed on a Mac.

Best,

A.

#18 Installation » Obmenu » 2025-10-31 11:41:19

Altoid
Replies: 8

Hello:

A long time ago, this thread came to my attention:https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4897

MiyoLinux posted this:

... #!++ has repackaged obmenu to work on newer systems using python3.
... downloaded the .deb file from my installation of #!++, and I've installed it on Chimaera, Daedalus, and Ceres...it works perfectly ...

I have a live i386 CBPP / #! *.iso which works perfectly well but I cannot find the *.deb file mentioned by MiyoLinux.

Any idea as to how I can get a hold of it?
I want to test it on a Daedalus VM as a possible transition away from XFCE.

Best,

A.

#19 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » "Partial ACPI Installation" on MacBook5,2 » 2025-10-31 10:36:12

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

@deviate
Try adding this stanza to the kernel command line: ACPI_OSI=Darwin
See here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/MacBookPro11,x

Did you get your Mac / ACPI issue worked out?

Whatever data you have been able to gather will be useful to others.

Best,

A.

#20 Re: Off-topic » So they asked me what I wanted for helping with the library... » 2025-10-30 02:55:43

Hello:

golinux wrote:

What a wonderful story!

Indeed.  8^D
And a just reward for your volunteer work too.

Best,

A.

#21 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Debian User Forum » 2025-10-28 14:21:31

Hello:

ralph.Ronnquist wrote:

"Fun" is something subjective, obviously.

Indeed ...

Just like the "utility" of systemd.  8^°

Best,

A.

#22 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur? » 2025-10-25 12:59:10

Hello:

mclien wrote:

... any extra obstacles with excalibur?

Yes.
A non-zero chance of there being extra obstacles is to be expected with a testing Suite.
ie: Maintained but Not Released status

https://www.devuan.org/os/releases wrote:
  • testing is where the next stable suite is developed. Software is usually more up-to-date but there may still be issues. testing becomes stable “when it is ready”.

rolfie wrote:

Backports is the safe route, Excalibur means a slightly higher risk ...

+1

Best,

A.

#23 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] apt problem - cannot update upower package to newer version » 2025-10-23 22:49:34

Hello:

grunchy wrote:

thanks ...

You're welcome

grunchy wrote:

... can't get apt to update from the obsolete libupower-glib1 ...

I see ...
And if you try to purge it, it nukes the whole shebang.
A sticky wicket ...

Just an idea:
Since apt will not (for whatever reason) update libupower-glib1, you may want to try some other way to do it.

First check that your etc/apt/sources.list file does not have anything but daedalus repositories. 
ie: sometimes shit does happen. 8^°

Then see if you can get around apt upgrade not doing the job by resorting to apt install:
eg:

apt install -s libupower-glib3   # <- simulation mode

It may well replace the old version. (?)

Please let us know how you fared.
Best,

A.

#24 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] apt problem - cannot update upower package to newer version » 2025-10-23 12:50:59

Hello:

grunchy wrote:

my daedalus vm has been upgraded since ascii.

Same for my Daedalus installation with the exception of it not being a VM.

$ uname -a
Linux devuan 6.1.0-40-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.153-1 (2025-09-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux
$ 
grunchy wrote:

... checked for obsolete packages ...

For whatever reason, I have quite a few of those packages ...

$ apt list '~o' 
--- snip ---
libssl1.1/now 1.1.1w-0+deb11u1 amd64 [installed,local]
libswresample3/now 7:4.3.6-0+deb11u1 amd64 [installed,local]
######  <--- would have been listed here
libvpx6/now 1.9.0-1+deb11u2 amd64 [installed,local]
libwebp6/now 0.6.1-2.1+deb11u2 amd64 [installed,local]
--- snip ---
$ 

...  but libupower-glib1 is not one of them.

$ apt list '~o' | grep libupower-glib1
--- snip ---
$ 

That said, I do have libupower-glib3 installed ...

$ apt list | grep installed | grep libupower
--- snip ---
libupower-glib3/stable,now 0.99.20-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
$ 
$ aptitude why libupower-glib3
i   task-desktop   Depends    xorg                                                              
i A xorg           Depends    xinit                                                             
i A xinit          Recommends xterm | x-session-manager | x-window-manager | x-terminal-emulator
i A xfce4-session  Provides   x-session-manager                                                 
i A xfce4-session  Depends    xfce4-settings                                                    
i A xfce4-settings Depends    libupower-glib3 (>= 0.99.0)                                       
$ 

... but no upower:

$ apt list | grep installed | grep upower
--- snip ---
libcpupower1/stable-security,now 6.1.153-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libupower-glib3/stable,now 0.99.20-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-cpupower/stable-security,now 6.1.153-1 amd64 [installed]
$ 
$ apt-cache policy upower
upower:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 0.99.20-2
  Version table:
     0.99.20-2 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages
$ 

That upower package is a recommends from the hw-probe package which I do have installed ...

$ apt list | grep installed | grep hw-probe
--- snip ---
hw-probe/stable,stable,now 1.6.5-1 all [installed]
$ 
$ aptitude why upower
i   hw-probe Recommends upower
$ 

... but I do not allow recommends in my system.

Unless I am mistaken, your 'Installed' version is the same as your 'Candidate' version:
ie: apt says that is the correct version to have in your system.

Installed: 1:0.9.23-2+devuan1.3
Candidate: 1:0.9.23-2+devuan1.3

Being a recommends and not a hard dependency, you probably don't need it.
You may want to try purging the upower package and see if the obsolete package gets purged along with it.

Then if you get complaints from the system, just reinstall it and see what gets dragged in along with it.

Please let us know how you fared.

Best,

A.

#25 Re: Off-topic » Caveat emptor -> Kingston DataTraveler Exodia M USB 3.2 » 2025-10-22 17:54:45

Hello:

kapqa wrote:

... shops here have mostly kingston drives ...

Same here, but without an official representative so it is more or less the wild west.

Not to mention all the fake/counterfeit crap with different brands stamped on them.

Moot point now as in light of my recent experience, Kingston is no longer the go-to brand I had purchased for almost 20 years without a second thought.
Not for USB sticks or SSDs for that matter.
Kingston has now gone the way of Seagate, Hewlett Packard, Texas Instruments, Sony and others.

The purchase of RAM sticks/modules is another matter as I expect that OEM branded hardware will be (?) properly specced, albeit more expensive.

Nowdays we will have to rely heavily on independent testing from whoever does that reliably.
ie: not sponsored or on a payroll.

With respect to IT gear, trust is something that takes a long time to build but once it is lost, that is that.

As always, YMMV.

Best,

A.

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