The officially official Devuan Forum!

mclien

Member

Registered: 2020-02-29

Posts: 116  

newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur?

HI,

I have my new system momentarily running. It might need a newer kernel. Hardware is announced to run with 6.8. and higher.

So I was thinking is there a newer kerne (6.1. is currently provided, if I'm not mistaken) for daedalus?
Or do I upgrade to excalibur already, since it might be become stable soon enough? (bookworm to daedalus was ~2 months)

Last edited by mclien (2025-10-21 09:55:01)

rolfie

Member

Registered: 2017-11-25

Posts: 1,327  

Re: newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur?

Daedalus backports is on 6.12, as Excalibur.

Backports is the safe route, Excalibur means a slightly higher risk of ooups.

GlennW

Member

From: Brisbane, Australia

Registered: 2019-07-18

Posts: 681  

Re: newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur?

libc6 is upgraded with excalibur. BPO kernel here. Daedalus backports is on 6.12.43-1~bpo12+1 (2025-09-06)

---

pic from 1993, new guitar day.

mclien

Member

Registered: 2020-02-29

Posts: 116  

Re: newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur?

I tend to upgrade to excalibur. So I du just the usual?

apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

then replace daedalus with excalibur in the sources.list and then (I normally run that with no user logged in as root from the first text console)

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get dist-upgrade

Or are there any extra obstacles with excalibur?

Last edited by mclien (Yesterday 12:23:03)

Altoid

Member

Registered: 2017-05-07

Posts: 1,870  

Re: newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur?

Hello:

... any extra obstacles with excalibur?

Yes.
A non-zero chance of there being extra obstacles is to be expected with a testing Suite.
ie: Maintained but Not Released status

• testing is where the next stable suite is developed. Software is usually more up-to-date but there may still be issues. testing becomes stable “when it is ready”.

Backports is the safe route, Excalibur means a slightly higher risk ...

+1

Best,

A.

Last edited by Altoid (Yesterday 13:00:44)

rolfie

Member

Registered: 2017-11-25

Posts: 1,327  

Re: newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur?

I tend to upgrade to excalibur. So I du just the usual?

Not quite, there is one more thing to do and some remarks.
Before changing the sources to excalibur, you need to run the usrmerge app (I use apt instead of apt-get, I like the progress bar). If you don't do that you get an error message and the upgrade is stalled.

# apt install usrmerge

Then, as long as Excalibur still is testing, the sources.list must contain just one line:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ excalibur main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

And the usual precautions do apply: make a backup and remove/deactivate all foreign repos from your sources.list.

mclien

Member

Registered: 2020-02-29

Posts: 116  

Re: newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur?

Thanks for the usrmerge hint.

So I change my sources.list to:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

and upon release I uncomment the 2 lines and do another:  ?

apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

Last edited by mclien (Yesterday 15:00:53)

rolfie

Member

Registered: 2017-11-25

Posts: 1,327  

Re: newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur?

Yes.

fsmithred

Administrator

Registered: 2016-11-25

Posts: 2,735  

Re: newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur?

You can uncomment excalibur-security and excalibur-updates. They've been active since around when trixie was released.

rolfie

Member

Registered: 2017-11-25

Posts: 1,327  

Re: newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur?

You can uncomment excalibur-security and excalibur-updates. They've been active since around when trixie was released.

Thanks, didn't know that. Good news, makes things a bit easier.

RedGreen925

Member

Registered: 2024-12-07

Posts: 187  

Re: newer kernel needed. daedalus backports or excalibur?

Thanks, didn't know that. Good news, makes things a bit easier.

May as well make it even easier and set it up with the new style file layout, this includes everything and works without problems. Move the sources.list to a backup to stop apt from complaining about duplicates.

root@9600k:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources 
# Devuan 6 excalibur
## The new style method of using repositories to install software.
## This /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources is new style and location file
## The /etc/apt/old.style.sources.list contains the same as this.
## https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntus-repository-configuration-ubuntu-sources-have-moved-to-etc-apt-sources-list-d-ubuntu-sources

## Normal excalibur sources
Types: deb
URIs: http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged 
Suites: excalibur excalibur-backports excalibur-proposed-updates  excalibur-updates
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64

## excalibur security sources
Types: deb
URIs: http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged
Suites: excalibur-security
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64