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Yeah, seems to be true regarding GPUs and LED/LCD screens. On laptop displays can be seen exactly the countdown, there is no lag in between. On my desktop with labwc configured with swayidle it takes couple of second to wake up from power save mode. I have 2 modern monitors (Lenovo Legion 24 and HP Z24n G3) and the HP usually takes about 5-6 seconds to wake-up, and sometimes is annoying. Not sure, but Wayland might also be to blame. libs wlroots are now on 0.18 on repos, but meanwhile they released 0.2 which might have some improvements in this direction. On my Laptop(a HP, 8 years old), with same software configuration, waking up the laptop's display from power save mode is almost instant. Not sure with a monitor connected, I have to try.
I think is the GPU that takes some seconds to switch modes, signal over HDMI/DisplayPort. So the true value of 20 secs is respected.
If I unplug one of my monitors, it doesn't show me anything, no boot menu, a blank screen until I found that Devuan is started. I have a new GPU: AMD RX 9060 XT, 16GB. I didn't have such issues with my old AMD 4GB card. So, if I have my both monitors switched on I have the boot menu. I'll leave like this, and maybe I will found out a reason sometime.
I just found something interesting. So, I reinstalled my system (anyway I have replaced my old GPU card) and just after Devuan was installed, on the first boot, without doing anything else I have set the timeout to 20 seconds:
cat /etc/default/grub
# If you change this file or any /etc/default/grub.d/*.cfg file,
# run 'update-grub' afterwards to update /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
# For full documentation of the options in these files, see:
# info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'
GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT=20
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`( . /etc/os-release && echo ${NAME} )`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
# If your computer has multiple operating systems installed, then you
# probably want to run os-prober. However, if your computer is a host
# for guest OSes installed via LVM or raw disk devices, running
# os-prober can cause damage to those guest OSes as it mounts
# filesystems to look for things.
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=falseAnd after rebooting the real timeout was not 20 seconds but 15 seconds!!!. So, when I tried first time setting to 10 seconds, if I follow same logic then 5 seconds was correct. But this happens on Dualboot with Windows.
I have changed also on my laptop, where I run only Devuan, to 8 seconds and that 8 seconds were respected as configured.
I don't know why is like this on Dual-boot with Windows. Maybe is by design? Is not first time when I dual boot with windows, but I can't remember that behavior.
I used in the past grub-customizer and didn't have any issues. But indeed, it doesn't add any real benefit and maybe can be problematic in some cases. I didn't know. Thanks for the info!
I dualboot Devuan with Windows 11. I want to increase the GRUB_TIMEOUT from default 5 sec. to 10 sec.
But it doesn't make any effect, is still 5 sec.
$ cat /etc/default/grub
# If you change this file or any /etc/default/grub.d/*.cfg file,
# run 'update-grub' afterwards to update /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
# For full documentation of the options in these files, see:
# info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'
GRUB_DEFAULT="0"
GRUB_TIMEOUT="10"
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="`( . /etc/os-release && echo ${NAME} )`"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
# If your computer has multiple operating systems installed, then you
# probably want to run os-prober. However, if your computer is a host
# for guest OSes installed via LVM or raw disk devices, running
# os-prober can cause damage to those guest OSes as it mounts
# filesystems to look for things.
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER="false"
# Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs
# This works with Linux (no patch required) and with any kernel that obtains
# the memory map information from GRUB (GNU Mach, kernel of FreeBSD ...)
#GRUB_BADRAM="0x01234567,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef"
# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal
#GRUB_TERMINAL="console"
# The resolution used on graphical terminal
# note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE/GOP/UGA
# you can see them in real GRUB with the command `videoinfo'
GRUB_GFXMODE="1920x1080"
# Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux
#GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID="true"
# Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries
#GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
# Uncomment to get a beep at grub start
#GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 1"
GRUB_THEME="/boot/grub/themes/gigabyte/theme.txt"I did:
$ sudo update-grubto update the /boot/grub/grub.cfg
And is strange because if I look into /boot/grub/grub.cfg it seems the timeout is set to 10 sec.
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ] ; then
set timeout=30
else
if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
set timeout_style=menu
set timeout=10
# Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
# unavailable.
else
set timeout=10
fi
fiI also installed grub-customizer and installed a theme, but is the same. Is still 5 secs, even also the grub-customizer shows that the timeout is set to 10 seconds.
You can check this thread. There is a link to an ISO. You can try with that ISO. It worked for me.
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7980
And use Balena Etcher for the USB boot media. It works just fine in Linux and Windows. With Rufus didn't worked for me.
So, to conclude and close this post, I have created for myself a Gitea account on Devuan Git Store and published the project there:
https://git.devuan.org/ovi/devuan-knowledge_base
I will try to bring it to an usable form, in time. I have in mind users like me, that are new to Linux and Devuan especially, or migrated from another distribution and that want to know more about the Devuan Operating System, in general.
I know that Devuan has its own wiki, but it just doesn't fit for my project idea and also I don't like it, to be honest.
There are many good, general topics inside the forum that can have place in my devuan-knowledge_base. I will look for them and add them there.
So, who knows, maybe over one, two years if somebody from Devuan team consider that the content make sense for the general public, the repo will be always there.Just take the public folder, correct, throw away what is unecessary and that's all.
If somebody wants to have a look time to time, criticize, add corrections, ideas, etc. I would be glad to hear them. Is only one package to install.
But not so soon
, there is nothing inside yet, just a sketch with some blank pages.
Finally, my strong opinion is that any good product needs to have a simple HandBook, accessible to anyone.
I don't know if gitea has the same ability to make a page like that for a wiki of sorts,
It has, since 2023 and it got better with last versions. I could do the same as GitHub pages do, using gitea. I played around in a Virtual Machine. I used nginx as a webserver, gitea (1.27 and then 1.25), hugo, and nodejs. Also is needed a runner from the gitea site that does the whole job. The process is very simple: just commit and push on gitea, then on Gitea Server the runner is launching hugo that generates the pages and copies on the web server location the generated html files. Is really nice for static web pages, in general.
No problem. English is not my native language. so.. I don't know if this kind of punishment is still a practice, but it was, indeed
.
Is getting late on my part of the world and soon will be Monday (job, kids, family and so on...)
Thanks again for your answers!
It depends. Some things can start and die in corner and is better this way, or they can grow and go where it belongs, or it stays always as a corner with its own value, or maybe the place that it belongs think that it should change and adopt the good sides of the corner. A corner doesn't hurt anyone; it may or may not be there.
There are many possibilities for a corner ![]()
By the way, if you you are interested in eventually contributing to the official Devuan wiki,
I haven’t thought so far, not now. In the beginning I just want to have my own corner of internet first, use something quick as Hugo static site generator. Hugo, has its own learning curve, more work is on creating the skeleton, but then the content are just simple md files, so the content creator (to say so) can focus on the content it self, not on the html/css, linking pages and so on.
I see that Devuan wiki is using PmWiki and I think it has also kind of translator from md files in their own format. So, who knows, maybe in the future I would be glad to have my information stored in the Devuan Wiki. But today, I have nothing more than a foundation to add my notes and publish them, no valuable content. Maybe, in the end my content is just a garbage that doesn’t have a place in an official wiki.
I use labwc (the OpenBox replacement in Wayland). They have their wiki on GitHub pages. And is pretty good as a content. That’s why I was thinking on GitHub pages.
But, before anything else, I need first the agreement of Mr. Denis Roio (jaromil) as Mr. Ronnquist advised and the content it self. Then, for hosting Calamity suggested some variants. But then will see, still is a long way. But I know where to start.
For sure I will have technical questions for my small wiki, and I will ask them, here, on the forum.
Thank you all for the support!
@greenjeans
Yeah that's why I don't use github. I don't know if gitea has the same ability to make a page like that for a wiki of sorts, but I post my stuff to git.devuan.org which now that i've gotten to understand it better is very user-friendly, and no worries about evil. wink
Did a quick research, I think gitea can do as well. Thank you greenjeans!
First, Thank you for your response!
I know that Mr. Denis Roio (jaromil) is an important person in the Devuan project. I didn't know exactly his role.
I started this more like a personal project, first time when I did a site by myself and I choose github from the technical point of view: is simple, free as long as the repository is public, it has all the needed infrastructure to run such a small project and I don't know anything about hosting
. Yes, in the end maybe is not the best idea to host it there. Still, I am happy that my test succeeded, in the end and I saw that can be done. Now I made the repo private and the site is offline.
I wouldn't abandon my idea. I still think a small handbook for Devuan will be useful, for myself sure it is. Probably I will try to contact Mr. Roio.
[context]
About two weeks ago somebody created this post:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=8078
And I had a small comment saying that Void Linux has a small, valuable handbook and would be nice if Devuan would have something similar.
I haven't touched any html/css code for years, and also my knowledge is very limited. But now there are new tools (such Hugo which I learned and use it, plus AI
) to help building such a site.
So, I succeeded doing the skeleton and just published to Github pages. There is no valuable content, yet. My Linux/Devuan knowledge is, let's say, decent, but what I have and what I will learn during my journey of using Devuan, I would like to have it also in this format and make it public. I like the Void handbook and I will try to stick to their concept, without having just a clone.
Here is the link:
https://chitibus.github.io/devuan-kb/intro/about_site/
[My questions]
Now, I was wondering if I am allowed to do this, if I am allowed to use the Devuan Logo on my site, for example?
My site specify that is an unofficial site.
How much information can I take from Devuan site, if I am allowed?
I don't know too much about licensing, so I was thinking that is better to ask here.
If my intention is considered inappropriate, then I will delete the Github repository.
I tried also XLibre with OpenBox. And I found after installation a weird mouse cursor. Then I found that it was reported as bug. I think is still a young project. Probably is nice to run, but not on a main machine. I am running Wayland with labwc and I kind of like it. Despite some or other says, Wayland shows some improvements compared with X11. Is still have some limitations, that's true also.
As I see xlibre has its own driver for AMD Radeon GPUs:
https://github.com/X11Libre/xf86-video-amdgpu
Xlibre driver for AMD Radeon GPUs using the amdgpu kernel driver
I also have an AMD GPU and I don't have such a file. I am running wayland, but I think it doesn't matter.
Ubuntu: please, rust in peace!
In my opinion the question it self makes sense. A good example is the Void Linux documentation. Technically is just a simple site, pure HTML, no JS generated from an mdBook. As content has one goal for the users: how to make their system work. Is not Debian, Arch or OpenSUSE wiki. If the users needs details then they have to look for other sources depending or their needs and choices. Is small, comprehensive, it says what you have to do, not exactly how to do. Anyone who touched Void Linux appreciate their small wiki and is a very good reference for the system it self. And I think is the same for years, only some small updates time to time. And it attracts users. It's just a model, but I think it's a viable one that might be followed one day. That's just my humble opinion, though.
To maintain accuracy of your system's clock you can use "chrony". It will enable also a dedicated service.
If you run only Devuan is enough to install the "chrony" package.
If you are dual-boot with Windows it's recommended to have both system set to UTC time. Windows does not use UTC by default, and if you are dual-booting, this will conflict with Devuan. That's why the installer will see that you have Windows installed and will set the time as Windows to local time.
To make the system time to UTC in Windows just download and run the registry file that RedGreen925 suggested.
In Devuan do this:
Check if the system time is set to UTC or not:
$ cat /etc/adjtime
Marks the hardware clock standard as UTC in Devuan and verify
$ sudo hwclock --systohc --utc
$ cat /etc/adjtime
Force chrony to re-sync:
sudo chronyc makestep
The iso provided works. Back on Devuan
.
Thank you !
Hello,
I wanted to switch my daily driver from a minipc (Lenovo) to a standard desktop with these specs:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 8400F 6-Core Processor
GPU: Sapphire Lexa PRO [Radeon RX 550]
MB: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE
I created the USB stick with Balena Etcher and booted. I selected Devuan stick boot from the boot menu and then the PC froze having the Gigabyte logo screen.
I tried then to create the USB stick with the dd tool, same thing.
I tested Freia and it booted, the installer started, all fine. I know that I tested the Excalibur installation on the same PC a month or so, ago. It was a different iso back then. And it worked.
I tested the Excalibur boot on the Lenovo minipc and it worked, but on my Gigabyte desktop it just doesn't boot.
I have installed Debian 13 Trixie, for the moment, dual booting with Windows 11 LTSC. I hope to have a solution to get back to Devuan
.
The new image works now! Just did a minimal server install inside a VM and is fine. Thanks!
I succeeded installing stable version and then switched to Freia.
I have seen that the ISO is now available. I tested the Freia installer on junk laptop ( junk because it has some issues from factory, but mainly functional). Indeed Partition Disks is failing also on real hardware. Now I see why the ISO image was missing.
I still have one question: on the Testing(now Freia) should I run time to time: apt full-upgrade?
Thank you all for your answers!
First, Thank you for your reply!
Yes, I know that is not officially released. In this location:
https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devu … aller-iso/
was the testing Freia ISO. And now is empty. It was an ISO last week. I am on Devuan for about a month, I don't really know how things should be.
I wanted to download the ISO for Freia and install it in a VM. The folder is empty. I am curious why is the ISO is not available for download.
Never heard about Forgejo. Seems an interesting choice. Gitea served me very well for some time. I plan to switch my mini-server to Devuan. I only store important files there and I setup a small Gitea server. Now I have Debian on it. I like Devuan because is more transparent not having systemd and I don't have the problems I had in systemd: hanging shutdowns especially.
Forgejo seems like a fallback in case gitea change their licensing or some big company buys them.