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#2251 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Update fails - xserver-xorg-core "loses keyboard and mouse" » 2017-11-25 13:44:44

It's safer if you use codenames. Use "jessie" instead of "stable" and "ascii" rather than "testing." When ascii becomes the stable release, you can change sources.list to say "ascii" instead of "jessie." That way, you get to decide when you do the dist-upgrade instead of running into it when it happens.

#2252 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Which AMD/ATI radeon firmware is being used....? RV710/M92 » 2017-11-25 13:37:22

To see what driver is in use, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or run 'lspci -k'.
To select which driver to use, create /etc/X11/xorg.conf with a Device section, where you list which driver to use.

For detailed instructions on configuration, look at debian. It's done the same way in devuan.

#2253 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2017-11-21 16:24:03

I call it the s/f rario, signal to fluff.  Only I include a level of doubt that not all fluff is innocent, and not all sheep is vegetarian.  I see sheep with sharp front teeth and saliva dripping.

I know we're drifting off topic here, but this is relevant to the drift and potentially very important:
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/11/20 … -keystroke

@golinux: I like the greens better than the roots.

#2254 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2017-11-21 02:44:03

Translation: Too much javascript.
(fungus obviously has a lower threshold than my limit of 4-5 allowances. I could see it fine once I unlocked a few doors.)

#2255 Re: Installation » Installation: mirror or DVD.iso? » 2017-11-19 19:29:38

All the installer isos must be used with auto.mirror.devuan.org (or some-country-code.mirror.devuan.org or packages.devuan.org). They do not have the signing key for amprolla3 (pkgmaster.devuan.org). If/when there's a point-release of jessie, that situation will be remedied.

#2256 Re: DIY » Conversion of simple systemd script to non-systemd » 2017-11-19 15:37:22

It looks like you could just replace the systemd commands with non-systemd commands. I don't know i3. How does it handle running those commands as root? Or does user have privilege for the shutdown and reboot commands? For hibernate and suspend, you can use 'pm-hibernate' and 'pm-suspend'.

Whenever I use a window manager without a diplay manager, I give my user sudo nopasswd permission for those commands.

It's also possible to let dbus manage the session, and then you can use dbus commands for shutdown, etc. I think that's been discussed somewhere on this forum. If you need that and can't find it, just say so.

This looks like the easy solution. No idea here if it works. (Note: Tags to put this in a code box are right above the message text box when you're composing.)

#!/bin/sh
lock() {
    i3lock
}

case "$1" in
    lock)
        lock
        ;;
    logout)
        i3-msg exit
        ;;
    suspend)
        lock && pm-suspend
        ;;
    hibernate)
        lock && pm-hibernate
        ;;
    reboot)
        reboot
        ;;
    shutdown)
        poweroff
        ;;
    *)
        echo "Usage: $0 {lock|logout|suspend|hibernate|reboot|shutdown}"
        exit 2
esac

exit 0

#2257 Re: Installation » Headless install on Raspberry Pi Zero » 2017-11-19 14:22:19

Instructions for putting the image on the device are in the README.txt found in the same directory as the images. But I will assume that you already know how to do that, because you did it with Debian. Say a little more about what you did and what doesn't work, and maybe someone will have a solution.

#2258 Re: Other Issues » Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie » 2017-11-19 13:07:41

Right. All the mirrors are mirroring packages.devuan.org, which is the original amprolla.
For now, amprolla3 is only on pkgmaster.devuan.org. I think there are a few more details to be worked out before all the mirrors use the amprolla3 repo.

#2259 Re: Other Issues » Wicd not auto connecting.. - Have to turn of/on/refresh to get list » 2017-11-18 23:21:25

'update-rc.d remove' will remove the symlinks. You do not need to remove the init script. I'm not sure if the symlinks will be regererated with normal updates, but. I just checked, and wicd is still installed here and turned off since I installed the system almost two years ago.

#2260 Re: Off-topic » Firefox Quantum » 2017-11-18 10:52:11

It’s over twice as fast as Firefox from 6 months ago

I think that's right around when i noticed that firefox suddenly became about half as fast (or twice as slow). I think they're pulling a "New Coke". (They added lemon, called it new, waited for complaints, then returned to "original" but replaced sugar with HFCS. The lemon phase was to get you to forget what it really tasted like.)

Last night someone told me that noscript will be ready for FF57 very soon. That's good news.

#2261 Re: Other Issues » Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie » 2017-11-17 11:40:14

Here's a bug report. I guess you can ignore the warning.
https://lists.debian.org/deity/2015/10/msg00085.html

Check your version of apt. It's supposed to be fixed in 1.1. Jessie has 1.0.9 and ascii should have 1.4.

dpkg -l apt

#2262 Re: Installation » Installing refracted Ascii w OpenBox Eudev no DM » 2017-11-17 03:18:08

Yes, that will work. The part about getting back to udev might be tricky. I'm pretty sure you have to force a downgrade by telling apt which version to install. (apt-get install somepackage=1.2.3)

#2263 Re: Other Issues » Missing pkgs from Ascii » 2017-11-16 20:37:40

The 10, 100 and 500 are priority numbers. All except the 500 are there because I pinned those repos at lower priority to prevent accidental install from the wrong repo. However, I haven't actually tested that. I won't share my full sources.list because it would be hazardous for anyone to use it. Including me. It's like that only so I can see what versions are in which release. One of these days I'll need to comment out all but the jessie repos and do another upgrade. Or maybe not - I really want to switch my main system to ascii soon.

#2264 Re: Installation » Installing refracted Ascii w OpenBox Eudev no DM » 2017-11-16 20:28:27

Be aware that the version of eudev in that iso has an epoch of 220 in the version. When eudev gets into the main repo (and even when it gets back into experimental again) it will have either no epoch or an epoch of 1. To get any updates, you'll need to do some package manager contortions to downgrade to the newer version with the lower number. I don't have exact instruction, because I haven't tried it yet. If you want some moral support when you decide to do that, look me up in irc (#devuan or #devuan-dev on freenode).

#2265 Re: Installation » OpenRC installation in Devuan Ascii » 2017-11-16 20:20:04

I'll delete those posts from that other thread.

#2266 Re: Other Issues » Missing pkgs from Ascii » 2017-11-16 17:27:21

The first one has a different name, the second one is named as you show it. Are you using auto.mirror.devuan.org or pkgmaster.devuan.org?

aptitude search libevent
...
i A libevent-2.0-5                                       - Asynchronous event notification library                        
p   libevent-2.1-6                                       - Asynchronous event notification library                        
...

apt-cache policy libevent-2.0-5
libevent-2.0-5:
  Installed: 2.0.21-stable-2+deb8u1
  Candidate: 2.0.21-stable-2+deb8u1
  Version table:
     2.0.21-stable-3 0
        100 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ceres/main amd64 Packages
         10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ stretch/main amd64 Packages
         10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ buster/main amd64 Packages
         10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
 *** 2.0.21-stable-2+deb8u1 0
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
apt-cache policy libzstd1
libzstd1:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.3.2+dfsg-1
  Version table:
     1.3.2+dfsg-1 0
        100 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ceres/main amd64 Packages
         10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ buster/main amd64 Packages
         10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
     1.1.2-1 0
        100 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii/main amd64 Packages
         10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ stretch/main amd64 Packages

#2267 Re: Other Issues » [solved] CUPS failing to print » 2017-11-16 15:24:12

I'm sure there were changes upstream from 1.6 to 1.75 in debian. I think the only changes that devuan made to 1.75 was to remove the dependency on libsystemd0, but it may have been more involved than that. The only way to know for sure what changes were made would be to compare the source code of both packages.

One possible simple solution is to try one of the generic drivers. I think you'll find them at the end of the list of drivers when you're adding a printer in the cups admin. (http://localhost:631)

Right now, all the devs are focused on ascii, so getting changes/fixes in jessie or doing anything with wheezy packages is unlikely to happen. There may be a way to get your printer working by editing some cups config files, but I don't know my way around that enough to even give you a hint.

#2268 Re: Other Issues » Amprolla3 repositories - Jessie » 2017-11-16 02:31:46

Looking under /devuan, there doesn't seem to be anything in jessie-proposed-security or jessie-proposed-backports. And there's almost nothing in jessie-proposed-updates - I think it's just an old version of desktop-base. I think it makes sense to use only the /merged sources unless you know there's a particular package in the /devuan sources that you need. (like you're testing a new build for a packager.)

#2270 Re: Installation » How to install the latest python? » 2017-11-14 21:12:22

NO!  Don't do it. (Not sure exactly what the package manager is trying to do there, but it looks bad.)

There's no python3.5 in jessie or jessie backports. You can get 3.4 from the regular jessie repo.

apt-get install python3

Comment out the backports lines and run 'apt-get update' again. Then install python3. If you did a full desktop install, you probably already have it.

If you want to see a list of all the python packages that are installed, run

dpkg -l | grep python

#2271 Re: Installation » Ascii installer image? » 2017-11-14 21:02:16

The need for nomodeset is fairly common. It depends on the video card. I got a black screen without it on my old nvidia card and a black screen with it on my new nvidia card.

I looked at refractainstaller-uefi and found some errors. It won't see the mmc drive for the grub selection, but it should see it for /, /home and /boot choices. What does fdisk show for the drive's device name? I would expect something like /dev/mmcblk0p1 for the first partition on the first drive. I'd like to know if I need to change my search pattern. Thanks.

If you want to try a corrected version of the script, I can post it somewhere.

#2272 Re: Installation » Ascii installer image? » 2017-11-13 17:39:56

I can think of some other options. When I was adding support for nvme disks in refractainstaller, I didn't have any nvme disks to test it, so I also made it aware of mmc devices. I know it sees them and displays them as choices for partitions/drives, but I've never tested an actual install to one. Nothing here will boot from mmc. So there are a couple of options for using that installer.

1. Try the devuan desktop-live uefi iso. It's jessie, but since the installer will see your drive, it might work.
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/desktop-live/

2. Try a refracta iso with the same installer.
Those are here - https://sourceforge.net/projects/refrac … isohybrid/

3. If you really do need a newer kernel, I made a devuan desktop-live iso with 4.9 kernel from backports.
That's here - http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/experimental/
Also in that same directory is ascii with openrc and eudev. That one is more experimental and was made for testing purposes. It's probably not your best choice.

4. Try a refracta-ascii no-X iso - https://sourceforge.net/projects/refrac … s/testing/
That one has the same installer, cli version. It's labeled as pre-alpha, but keep in mind that ascii is based on stretch, so it's really pretty stable. Refracta is a re-spin of Devuan and uses Devuan repositories for packages.

5. Use a refracta iso to do a debootstrap install of ascii.

#2273 Re: Other Issues » Wicd not auto connecting.. - Have to turn of/on/refresh to get list » 2017-11-13 12:12:52

In Debian and Devuan (and many other derivatives), runlevels 2-5 are the same.

To disable wicd in all runlevels:

update-rc.d -f wicd remove

To reverse the above:

update-rc.d wicd defaults

Another way to do it is to install sysv-rc-conf and un-check all runlevels on the wicd line. (use arrow keys and space bar)

#2274 Re: Off-topic » YAD Tutorial Site? » 2017-11-12 13:04:11

Are you gonna show us your script? How do you get the window to stay up when you make a selection?

#2275 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » (SOLVED) [Jessie] System keeping - how to undo package break of xfce4 » 2017-11-12 12:28:58

apt-get install hddtemp libxfcegui4-4 ristretto xfce4-artwork xfce4-battery-plugin...

and any other packages from the autoremoval list that you want to keep. They will then be marked as manually installed.

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