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#201 Re: DIY » Lowest memory footprint obtained. » 2020-05-15 19:14:31
lowest memory footprint/usage any of you has been able to obtain with a WM and what was your wm/basic setup.
IMHO it depends on what you consider "basic". I've experience installing general use computers in high school computer labs. We need browsing and office programs at a minimum. My Debian and Devuan installs with KDE take about 4GB of disc and run with just 1 GB. Latest Devuan 3 system require more RAM to be responsive, may be about 2 GB, but this figure is still untested personally.
Hope it helps.
#202 Re: Installation » Beowulf: Link sbin » 2020-05-14 16:45:17
My current preferred method to revert to the old behavior is to add
ALWAYS_SET_PATH yesto /etc/default/su.
There are a few methods. Years ago I decided to change almost all the configuration files of Bash of my systems. Now, with Devuan my modifications work well.
#203 Re: Installation » Beowulf: Link sbin » 2020-05-14 07:12:44
fsmithred wrote:I tried copying .Xauthority and that didn't work for me in beowulf. Are you using that in beowulf now?
No, in Beowulf no.
I'm working with Beowulf beta3 for a couple of days. Coping .Xauthority to the root home works for me. I can start X Window programs as root: bare user -> su - -> program. YMMV. Mine is lightdm, webkit2 greeter and KDE without much further tinkering.
#204 Re: Off-topic » Gentoo, Slackware and more » 2020-05-13 16:02:29
I think you mean 8MB, LOL.
My first Linux kernel compilation was on a 486 with 4 MB of RAM. But it succeded and I was amazed.
#205 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-11 14:17:51
For beowulf beta3, now available, ...
I did an offline install with the beta3 netinstall iso
Thank you both. Downloading beta3...
It works, minimal install gave me a working system, with network and apt fully operative. Fixed.
#206 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-11 10:45:29
I have been working on Beta and Beta2 for a while. Thank you to all you people for your work.
I always use expert install from devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta2_amd64_netinstall.iso
Standard XFCE instalation was fine, with the already said glitches about locales and tzdata. Not big deal.
Then I tried KDE install and it was fine: KDE is far more usable on low specs computer with Beowulf than with Stretch. But the instaler put on the drive both KDE and XFCE. This is a bug, IMHO.
Then I went to my real test: from a minimal install going installing just what I want, without metapackages, avoiding possible unwanted packages. I did two tries:
First try was what I already do succesfully with Devuan 2 ASCII: from expert netinstall, not choose any software nor configure apt, and do it after instalation. I could not finish that way because the system installed missed important packages, as the dhcp client.
Second try, from expert netinstall also, I choose configure apt, but not marking any task at all: the installed system had standard XFCE. Another bug, IMHO.
I'm stuck now. Do you have any advice about how to get a very minimal setup workable? It is top priority now for me, as I'm going to install ASAP Beowulf on a work computer for my wife to use her brand new Wacom tablet, so I'm able to work on this as much as needed.
Thanks to all of you.
#207 Re: Installation » Ethernet driver needed for Devuan_jessie 1.0.0_amd64 installation » 2020-04-30 08:15:11
It is new enough that the Devuan_jessie software can't find the ethernet driver.
Is an aceptable option for your setup using a more up to date Devuan version?
#208 Re: Installation » Beowulf Beta Issues » 2020-04-09 18:58:10
That's the way it was invented and had to be used in the olden days of Unix already.
I agree with you. I like customizing my workplace and I override this classic behaviour. Since around 1999, I change all the profile files of Bash so I just need "su" to get evething in place. I love freedom!
#209 Re: Off-topic » Thunderbird needs to be forked » 2020-01-30 21:51:32
Wouldn't an integrated email client be a good thing for LibreOffice?
The grandpa of LibreOffice, StarOffice, had a e-mail client called StarMail. So, it get lost in some version from StarOffice to OpenOffice to LibreOffice.
My mom actually still uses Thunderbird.
I'm using version 2.0. Inherited all my mail from Netscape Mail. No problems so far.
#210 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2020-01-06 09:50:22
first time here ... Dell Mini 9
Welcome to the forum. Nice machine you have!
#211 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Question about XDG menus » 2019-11-07 14:04:59
Looking forward for any answer to this question. I used time ago IceWM, still like it, and thought that is a good idea implement in IceWM the XDG menu structure. When I used IceWM, I edited their menu by hand.
#212 Re: Installation » amarok 2.9 is not in buster, will it be in beowulf? » 2019-10-12 18:44:13
Forgive me for being such a jerk.
You are not 
It just happens that you like Amarok. Like a lot of people. This is about free software.
#213 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » (Ascii) second monitor not recognized / graphics card AMD RX560 » 2019-10-11 19:27:38
I use TDE on a daily basis. It's pretty comfortable and full featured DE
Your opinion is important to me. Thank you very much for sharing. I'm using Devuan ASCII with XFCE, but definitely I will try Beowulf with TDE.
#214 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » (Ascii) second monitor not recognized / graphics card AMD RX560 » 2019-10-10 14:28:14
still not sure how to go on with the Desktop Environment; ... KDE + LXQT is certainly a interesting match
Have you tried Trinity? It is in my "to try" list.
#215 Re: Devuan » Debian considering going systemd init only » 2019-09-26 18:44:43
You can read about it here:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2158
I should have said devuan refracta10 nodbus as fsmithred mentions in previous post.
Thank you. On desktops I'm using now XFCE, so I will need dbus. But for a minimal server your work seems very promising. I'll study it as soon as I can.
#216 Re: Devuan » Debian considering going systemd init only » 2019-09-25 21:04:07
i dont use elogind or consolekit, ive been using devuan with no dbus and it runs great for what i need.
That seems very interesting to me. Could you, please, elaborate on it? May be a link or a new thread? Thank you.
#217 Re: Installation » firefox 52.9 esr » 2019-09-22 08:49:21
Maybe there's a way to set the second firefox to use something other than ~/.mozilla to store its files.
Profiles:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/doc … e_profiles
#218 Re: News & Announcements » Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed » 2019-09-06 08:28:23
I think that may be helpful an initial URL with the first basic instructions.
#219 Re: Off-topic » Eben Moglen's presentation at re-publica in May » 2019-07-28 11:06:32
at some point what is the purpose of the biological person behind the phone?
See ads, then buy goods. Sad.
#220 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » PulseAudio? Seriously!? » 2019-07-24 12:17:07
And when you remove pulse it's unfortunate you have to have a un-usable mixer in Xfce menu, just wasting space lol. When all you needed was a terminal for alsamixer.
The packages volumeicon-alsa and gnome-alsamixer worked for me in your issue. I dont need the Pulse Audio mixer in XFCE.
#221 Re: Off-topic » What other distro are you using (besides devuan)? » 2019-07-18 19:14:43
Debian on old boxes, Devuan on the new ones. No other distro to work, but I like to try others for fun. At work we have MAX, a Spanish distro based on Ubuntu with Mate desktop.
#222 Re: Installation » laptop failed to wake up from suspend mode, boot failure afterwards » 2019-06-23 10:44:51
it display a bunch of '07 07 07....' on the screen, no grub menu.
Strange enough, it seems a LILO problem to me.
From https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-lin … tup.10146/
L – First stage of the boot loader has finished and has been unable to load the second stage. This usually indicates bad BIOS parameters or bad sectors on the media or even a corruption of the boot loader. The letter is usually followed by an error code as follows:
07 – Invalid initialization – BIOS did not initialize the boot disk
#223 Re: Installation » [solved]Paused at installing grub? » 2019-05-18 19:13:39
Installation is working
Glad to know
#224 Re: Installation » [solved]Paused at installing grub? » 2019-05-18 17:55:09
Diff-ing two 700 MB disc images is relatively memory intensive.
Agreed.
I want to teach myself C and I figure I'll extra RAM will come in handy for when I screw up and a process eats O(n) memory in O(n) time...
I have no direct experience about this, but this info could be relevant: http://coldattic.info/post/40/
I'm mostly self-taught ... My hope is to get a job as a C programmer
So, be prepared to the more bizarre behaviour of your programs (I've been there)
On topic, I opted to install the DVD ... in a few minutes and let you know if I have any errors.
Looking forward. Best luck
#225 Re: Devuan » UsrMerge on Devuan? » 2019-05-18 17:07:25
The merge have perfect meaning in 2019, IMHO. Please remember why some split was needed in the first place and think about it with the hardware resources we have nowadays:
http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busy … 74114.html
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