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#151 Re: Installation » Boot menu says "Debian" instead of "Devuan" » 2020-06-09 12:49:30

jdev wrote:
HevyDevy wrote:

To answer your question better i think lsb_release -i -s reads from the file /etc/os-release.

Nope, it reads from /etc/lsb-release.

That is strange because i dont have that file /etc/lsb-release on my installation of beowulf.

#152 Re: Installation » Boot menu says "Debian" instead of "Devuan" » 2020-06-09 12:30:05

To answer your question better i think lsb_release -i -s reads from the file /etc/os-release. So you could prbably just change the ID in /etc/os-release as well. There is probably a more technical issue why this is so but i have no idea.

#153 Re: Installation » Boot menu says "Debian" instead of "Devuan" » 2020-06-09 12:21:47

I dont use uefi, but i think you can just change the following line in /etc/default/grub

from

GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`

to

GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -d -s`

then sudo update-grub

#154 Re: Forum Feedback » Why Fie? » 2020-06-08 14:58:21

Camtaf wrote:

The old OpenBSD installer was the worst that I had come across - it was curses based & used to make you use cylinders, & you had too keep count of where you were too. lol

So, OP, you've been using Linux almost as long as I have......each distro does things their own way, so you shouldn't really complain about one that chooses to use curses installers, it's up to the devs what they want to use, we get the privilege of using their hard work for free. smile

If you are used to linux, openbsd is a whole different ball game when it comes to disk management. Being only relatively new to BSD i could imagine earlier implementations would have tested ones patience.

#156 Other Issues » [solved] Refracta Installer - disable auto login after installation » 2020-06-08 13:19:02

HevyDevy
Replies: 2

Sorry if this has been asked before and i could not find the answer with search terms on the forum so asking here.

How does one disable autologin feature after installation, i forgot or missed disabling it? Im just using startx but when i log out it logs in again automatically.

I cant seem to grab other tty's also, so im thinking it has something to do with /etc/inittab

1:2345:respawn:/bin/login -f user </dev/tty1 >/dev/tty1 2>&1
2:23:respawn:/bin/login -f user </dev/tty2 >/dev/tty2 2>&1
3:23:respawn:/bin/login -f user </dev/tty3 >/dev/tty3 2>&1
4:23:respawn:/bin/login -f user</dev/tty4 >/dev/tty4 2>&1
5:23:respawn:/bin/login -f user </dev/tty5 >/dev/tty5 2>&1
6:23:respawn:/bin/login -f user </dev/tty6 >/dev/tty6 2>&1

EDITED.

#157 Re: Forum Feedback » Why Fie? » 2020-06-07 12:58:22

Yeah sorry, that is fair enough ralph.

1. i was surprised there was no gui installer, but im used to cli/tui/dialog installers having installed via these more than twice.

2. Installation is a bit lengthy depending on the network, i used a local mirror and it seemed to help a bit.

3. never used wifi for installation as it required non-free firmware and i use internet over usb0 from the smartphone anyhow.

Stick with devuan richmond62, its a good system for us boomers wink

#158 Re: Forum Feedback » Why Fie? » 2020-06-07 11:57:33

another cranky old boomer lol.

#159 Re: Devuan » Why apt still links to libsystemd0? » 2020-06-04 15:15:07

criminalscum wrote:

It's installed by libelogind0.

$ ldd $(which apt) | grep -i systemd
$ dpkg -S /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsystemd.so.0

I see, i didnt have the correct commands for apt.

I dont think there is any way of getting around this as devuan is a fork of debian. I believe it would require a rewrite of the code and a massive downgrade of binaries in the repos.

This is why i like to play around with pure unix like openbsd and netbsd.

#160 Re: Devuan » Why apt still links to libsystemd0? » 2020-06-04 14:57:22

Hmm that is odd, i dont have libsystemd0 on my system but do have libelogind0.

:~$ apt depends libelogind0
libelogind0
  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.28)
  Depends: libcap2 (>= 1:2.10)
  Conflicts: libsystemd0
  Replaces: libsystemd0
    libelogind0

I run a pretty slimmed down system though, it has dbus and systemd disabled ( i believe) via apt preferences.
/etc/apt/preferences.d/nodbus

Package: dbus
Pin: release n=beowulf-security
Pin-Priority: -1

Package: dbus
Pin: release n=beowulf
Pin-Priority: -1

/etc/apt/preferences.d/nosystemd

Package: systemd
Pin: release n=beowulf
Pin-Priority: -1

#161 Re: Off-topic » Debian Buster with SysVinit as PID 1 [from FDN] » 2020-06-04 12:11:54

Probably well worth giving it a try if one knows how to do it. I tried this a few years ago with debian jessie and openrc i think and failed miserably, just my lack of knowledge as i believe i rebooted when i shouldnt have. Anyhow i shall give it a go one afternoon for shits and giggles, cheers pcalvert.

#162 Re: Off-topic » What other distro are you using (besides devuan)? » 2020-06-04 11:57:22

Im using openbsd for awhile now on a test machine just for learning. But main machine always has devuan from now on. Ive tried all the bleeding edge but bandwidth is limited for me so i like stable systems like devuan that dont need too much updating.

#163 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf 3.0.0 is here! » 2020-06-04 11:49:59

Congrats to all involved, probably the best version of gnu/linux available in my opinion.  To add i downloaded and installed to a usb stick yesterday with encryption and it is working great, added some parameters to make it a bit speedier for usb, but overall the install went flawlessly.

#164 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2020-05-31 15:41:47

@ Miyo, cheers bud, will have to try out that monsterwm.

bspwm is good no doubt about that, i think im just too accustomed to dwm though.

yeah that "but then" nine years of no updates is a bit concerning. If i had the skills i would give it a good go, but im just a user and abuser wink

#165 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2020-05-30 15:48:26

Nice shots @ Miyo.

Im not a fan of polybar either or bspwm, i ditched it and went back to dwm. Was fun learning how it worked but too much missions getting it set up. Good old dwm with sxhkd is a nice mix in my opinion.

Next wm to try on devuan is one called progman from this person here https://github.com/jcs/progman

Its kind of like windows 3.1 in its theming, i think based on fvwm. Works great on openbsd, yet to try it on devuan.
Comes with its own menu and config file that is fairly simple to hack into for programs and colors etc. Think it is still a WIP though.

Take a look here for some screenies,... https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/commen … ow_manger/

#166 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2020-05-26 16:25:02

^ any tips on the above? Website for Gnuinos is spanish and translates ok but seems lacking in further details. Revamp is my guess.

#167 Re: DIY » Linux ports of OpenBSD's ksh » 2020-05-26 16:20:07

What are the differences in your backport to the locally available ksh in stable/testing ?

#168 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2020-05-25 12:05:23

Hi not sure if this would be the right place to ask but what is the login and password for the live session of the beowulf iso found here:

https://devuan.org/os/partners/devuan-distros

https://gnuinos.org/#

I get to the slim login and have tried the usual suspects like root / toor and live / user

#169 Re: DIY » Linux ports of OpenBSD's ksh » 2020-05-24 16:15:24

Yeah i use openbsd on another machine, 6.7 has proved to be really good performance wise on my intel gear.

Would be nice to see debian pick up loksh in testing.

I see alpine linux and some other musl libc based distros have picked this up, i actually dual boot alpine and openbsd on said machine so will have to install loksh on alpine wink

#170 Re: DIY » Linux ports of OpenBSD's ksh » 2020-05-24 15:10:37

what is the benefit of this loksh over say mksh or ksh in the repos as it stands, updated and maintained i suppose?

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 275K May 24 21:30 /bin/mksh*

https://packages.debian.org/buster/mksh

#171 Re: Installation » Beowulf – Network Interface Order » 2020-05-15 15:36:46

so much easier having the old interface naming scheme, even when im messing about with systemd distros ill change them back to the old interface naming scheme via boot commands as fsmithred mentions but using net.ifnames=0

#172 Re: Installation » Beowulf – Network Interface Order » 2020-05-15 14:56:38

My install uses the old interface names like wlan0 and usb0 etc...

what are you getting and what do you mean by interface order ?

I think with systemd its something like enp0s7 or wlp7s0 etc...

#174 Re: DIY » Making your own packages - Toxic build deps. » 2020-05-11 11:43:52

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
HevyDevy wrote:

I had issues with my hardware not being compatible with trousers. It was dependant on tss2 but debian stable is only tss1?

Try https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/beowul … 1.3-2.html instead, trousers is now obsolete.

There is also https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/beowul … _11-2.html which is strange to find on pkg search as i did an apt search this particular package did not show up.

Might have to give this a try again and see if i can build ecryptfs.

#175 Re: DIY » Making your own packages - Toxic build deps. » 2020-05-10 14:38:04

I had issues with my hardware not being compatible with trousers. It was dependant on tss2 but debian stable is only tss1?

https://packages.debian.org/buster/trousers

I dont know much about this as it might not pertain to building every package but this seems to be a hurdle in regards to crypto.

More info.

Tried building this against devuan beowulf and failed.

https://github.com/tpm2-software/tpm2-tss

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