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#151 Re: Devuan Derivatives » JWM Kit Linux build 20210828 (WOW! What an improvement) » 2022-01-19 13:13:29

JWM-Kit wrote:
andyprough wrote:

I wonder if there would be any value in running it on a tiling window manager like DWM? I use DWM with a patched-in systray, so I can probably run any panel applets from JWM Kit. Could be interesting, JWM Kit has a lot of useful utilities for a window manager.

. . . and to quote myself wink

JWM-Kit wrote:

But why would you want to run JWM Kit without JWM? Well even though JWM Kit will have no effect on the running system it still writes the config files.

Will I guess I overstated that. because I guess parts of JWM Kit do have purpose outside of JWM.  Although much of it is specific to enhancing JWM.

So what parts of JWM Kit could you use to enhance a  non-jwm system.

Note : I've shorten the names. We all know the full names start with 'JWM Kit", just like XFCE apps start with XFCE4

  • Calendar

  • Logout

  • Time & Date

  • Settings

  • Popvolume (The core of JWM Kit's volume control and notification.  Assign it to keys, or mouse bindings)

  • Freedesktops (similar to MenuLibre)

  • Wallpaper (limited, it works also with SpaceFM, PCManFM, and ROX Desktops . . . but would be easy to add support for xseroott, feh, etc.)

I tried it last night on my DWM setup with Devuan.
Pro's - super easy to install with the .deb package
Con's - not much worked in DWM. The calendar popped up, but I couldn't interact with it and it did not stay on the systray. The settings menu popped up but I couldn't use it to effect the system. Popvolume and Popmixer(spelling?) did not work. Wallpaper did not seem to do anything that I recall.

After trying a few things, I removed the package from the system so as not to introduce any instabilities.

I think it's got potential, because it does install and I could see that the various modules were trying to do something. I think I may have been missing some dependencies that would have helped it to run better. When I get time I'd like to explore it further in a VM, see if there are some dependencies or config options that would help to integrate it into the DWM environment better.

As far as my DWM setup, I clone the git version from suckless.org, just the vanilla version with the exception of adding the systray patch, along with the git versions of dmenu and slstatus. So if you were to explore it, targeting a setup like mine would be pretty easy. I'm not certain, but I think there are more DWM users in the world than JWM users, so if it could be integrated with DWM it could potentially hit a pretty good sized audience.

#152 Re: Devuan Derivatives » JWM Kit Linux build 20210828 (WOW! What an improvement) » 2022-01-19 02:58:50

JWM-Kit wrote:

Yes, JWM Kit will work without JWM, but just like any other graphical application you still need some kind of windows manager, or Desktop.

I wonder if there would be any value in running it on a tiling window manager like DWM? I use DWM with a patched-in systray, so I can probably run any panel applets from JWM Kit. Could be interesting, JWM Kit has a lot of useful utilities for a window manager.

#153 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » local search engines » 2022-01-19 02:30:27

There's a new one called "Cerebro" that has a free software license (github.com/cerebroapp/cerebro)

It looks kind of cool. I tried to use the Appimage today, but it was throwing up errors. I see that there's some instructions on how to overcome the errors but I haven't tried them yet. There's also a .deb package.

It would be nice if something a bit more modern than Recoll finally became available.

For command line search utilities, I've fallen in love with "fd" (on Devuan it's the 'fd-find' package). Soooo fast, and doesn't need to build an index.

#154 Re: Off-topic » Boot iso from hard disk » 2022-01-10 23:48:32

You may want to check out the antiX distro. It's very similar to Devuan with a Debian base and sysvinit as the init system. It's got a ton of boot options, including the boot from iso you are looking for, about 7 different USB persistence options which could also help you, and "frugal install" in which you boot with a USB stick but have a small partition on the hard drive where you can store files. I've used it a lot over the years. Not near as polished of a desktop as Devuan, but it's got some amazing tools.

#155 Re: Off-topic » Boot iso from hard disk » 2022-01-10 21:15:03

I got one of these short, stubby Samsung Fit Plus usb drives for that. Sticks out the side of the laptop about a quarter of an inch. Like one of those little nubs you get for a wireless mouse.

Samsung-256-GB-Fit-Plus.jpg

Most of the different usb drive makers have their own version. They're not expensive, like $8 - $10 for a 64GB one.

#156 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-01-08 17:48:20

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Got bored of GNOME

But you said it was true love, how could this possibly happen? I think you owe us a "why I fell out of love with Gnome" rant video. There aren't enough Gnome rant videos available online.

#157 Re: Off-topic » Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas » 2021-12-30 17:42:48

hevidevi wrote:

Im not religious but i do believe there is higher powers, i say powers (plural) as i dont believe in universality, i think many powers converged to create or make what we see and experience today, and in saying that those powers can just as easily take them away or change them beyond comprehension.

There's something very close to what you describe in mainstream biblical scholarship called the Deuteronomy 32:8-9 worldview, which attempts to reconcile all the "divine council" power sharing scenes in Deuteronomy, Job, and many other places in the Hebrew Tanakh (Old Testament). Very fascinating stuff. There's a cool ancient Hebrew scholar named Dr. Michael Heiser that does youtube videos on it - search for his videos on the "Unseen Realm" if interested.

#158 Re: Off-topic » Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas » 2021-12-30 02:47:56

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I celebrate Grav-Mass instead :-)

Sir Isaac Newton wrote books on Christian theology. Any serious atheist would have to dismiss his laws of gravity as the rantings of an unenlightened madman. Gravity is fake news.

#159 Re: Installation » alternatives to Mozilla's and Chomethings » 2021-12-30 00:56:47

oui wrote:

I am looking for extensions (as luakit is extensable) for Luakit giving access to about all the same options as in Firefox (or Seamonkey).

An idea where to find adequate stuff?

I put a couple of sets of instructions on getting adblock and a simplified version of noscript working on luakit in this thread: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/configur … it-browser
Also some info on setting a user agent string and changing away from google as the default search engine.

I haven't researched further yet. If you find some info on how to make it more extensible, please post about it. The pro's of laukit seem to be the minimal ram usage and the vim keybindings. The con's include an increased cpu usage on media-heavy pages and its inability to render a few rare pages which require webgl. When I use it for reading and researching and let mpv handle the video streaming, it seems to be an excellent browser.

#160 Re: Off-topic » Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas » 2021-12-29 22:07:28

Christian scholars are nearly unanimous in rejecting December 25th, 1 AD as the birth date of Jesus. The Christmas deniers on this forum are in agreement with the Biblical and historical scholarship. December 25th AD 1 is a date that was calculated by 6th century Roman monk Dionysius Exiguus. Catholic scholars seem to agree that a primary motivation of Dionysius was to eradicate the widely used Roman calendar which celebrated 3rd-century emperor Diocletian, a noted persecutor of Christians. Jesus was probably born between 6-5 BC, and some scholars believe it would have been between March and May, depending on their view of the astronomical signs that were recorded.

Nothing that's been brought up here is worth arguing over. Many Christians do not celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25th and see it as simply a pagan festival time that Roman Christians grabbed onto. For me it's a matter of it being part of the fabric of society, as is our wrongly dated calendar. Around Christmas each year I get time off from work, so I spend it with my family like most others. I don't mind adhering to incorrect traditional dates and calendars as long as the trains still arrive on time - no harm no foul.

As far as the fantasy of Santa Claus, Saint Nicholas (Nikolaos of Myra) was a real person, a 3rd century Turkish bishop, apparently quite rich, who apparently liked to anonymously give gifts to poor children. Whenever we sneak a gift to someone, in a way we're carrying on his same spirit and tradition. However, anyone but a child believing in a magical elf in a red suit riding a sleigh pulled by flying reindeer and squeezing down chimneys to distribute gifts, all because they watched some show on TV about a book by Clement C. Moore, is just a victim of Madison Avenue advertising and Hollywood hype - that depiction is all about generating profits for retailers.

#161 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2021-12-28 07:15:43

penguin wrote:

I just bought two paper books for studying:
Covid-19 and the global predators: we are the prey, Peter R Breggin, Giner Ross Breggin
The Body Electric, Robert O Becker, Gary Selden

I read some of Peter and Ginger's writing on psychiatric drugs, challenging the big pharma drug industry. They are a powerful couple of counter cultural intellectuals. Let us know what you think of this new book if you get a chance, I'd be interested to read your thoughts.

GlennW wrote:

Mindfulness In The Modern World, Osho

Plenty of mindfulness and meditation tips and tricks.

Osho's lectures used to be on public access cable tv in Austin most afternoons when I was a teenager. He went by Baghwan Shree Rajneesh back then. He's got some disciples that put up a lot of video content on youtube these days. I enjoy their logical consistency - they seem to live out their philosophy in all its aspects, even if it comes at a great cost to them personally. That's a rare quality in people since about the early 70's. Reminds me of the Dalai Lama and some of the Rinpoche's - a lot of the same qualities of extreme personal integrity regardless of the cost.

#162 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2021-12-28 06:56:22

I'm reading the Greek Interlinear New Testament to improve my Koine Greek. When I'm done, I'll read the Hebrew Interlinear Old Testament to improve my Biblical Hebrew. I'd prefer to read the Septuagint version of the OT, not sure if a good interlinear is available. I'm going to try to get both of them read by the end of 2022, but it's a tall order. I read about 2 hours today and only got through 3 chapters in Matthew. I'll probably have to improve on that pace quite a bit to finish within the year. It's hard to read for speed, because some conjugations and some phrases are so interesting that I have to stop and study their lexical entries for a bit.

Hebrew is the harder of the two for me. For some reason, reading from right to left is a bit of a strain and can give me a headache if I keep it up for too long. A nice thing about Hebrew is that it doesn't hit you with a mouthful of consecutive vowels like Koine Greek does. Whether sounding the words out mentally or verbally, Hebrew has a very nice pattern to it, almost like the rhythm of a well played percussion instrument.

#163 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Alternative browser for Devuan/Debian - Brave » 2021-12-27 18:50:03

aitor wrote:

DEB packages of version 78.15.0 are available at:

http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/

I announced them yesterday night in the irc channel. It looks good in chimaera:

https://www.gnuinos.org/screenshots/icecat.png

You have deb packages for iceweasel-uxp too! http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/poo … easel-uxp/

Very cool, something fun to try today.

#164 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Alternative browser for Devuan/Debian - Brave » 2021-12-27 17:04:28

hevidevi wrote:

Hi andy, how would i go about adding abrowser to devuan chimaera so i can catch any updates to the browser, does trisquel allow there repos to be used outside of trisquel? Like im thinking i could add in the repo and just pin it to a low archive priority?

My steps for installing abrowser on Devuan and pinning the repos are here: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-inst … ser-devuan

A Trisquel forum contributor improved my procedure a little bit and wrote a shell script to do it all automatically on Debian. Should work about the same on Devuan: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/state-we … ent-163433

The main improvement was using 'Pin: origin "archive.trisquel.info"' instead of 'Pin: release a=etiona-updates', so that the repo should update to the latest Trisquel repo. Also some of the Pin Priority numbers were adjusted in the shell script to be more in the range of what apt expects to see.

Either method will work, but the shell script steps will probably work for a longer period of time. My steps are all commented, which makes it useful to read through both.

#165 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2021-12-18 23:09:41

Inspired by @Ogid1975, I'm checking out the early 90's death metal/Norwegian black metal stylings of DarkThrone on their rather menacing album "A Blaze in the Northern Sky": https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WDi99nXhObs

I have a feeling I'll have nightmares tonight about demons screaming in my skull and eating my brains with rusty forks.

#166 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Alternative browser for Devuan/Debian - Brave » 2021-12-18 23:00:06

aitor wrote:

Ruben's packages were quite outdated -at least the last time i used Trisquel-, based on 52.3:

http://mirror.fsf.org/trisquel/pool/main/i/icecat/

Oh, I see, you are really focused on just using icecat. I was talking about "abrowser", which is Ruben's/Trisquel's fork of regular Firefox. It is quite up to date, and uses the same build scripts as icecat from what I've heard.

Latest version is 95: https://archive.trisquel.org/trisquel/p … x/?C=M;O=D

#167 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2021-12-18 14:24:03

Ogis1975 wrote:

Debian 11.1 and xfce

It's not every day that you see a DarkThrone playlist. Party on, @Ogis1975.

#168 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Alternative browser for Devuan/Debian - Brave » 2021-12-17 15:12:18

aitor wrote:

Thanks, i'm not familiar with guix, but i'll give it a try in Trisquel. I've been using the makeicecat script developed by Rubén, which generates the sources of icecat grown from firefox-esr. The rest is done using git-buildpackage and pbuilder.

Couldn't you just use Ruben's/Trisquel's deb's for abrowser - isn't that the same thing as running the makeicecat script on current firefox? Do you prefer to build it yourself, or to base it on Firefox-esr?

#169 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] laptop fan running too much: cyber currency miner? Clam inop? » 2021-12-16 01:07:35

nobodyuknow wrote:

Well, that's curious. On a lark, I uninstalled Britty because I'm not blind, uninstalled Clamav and Clamtk because antivirus often uses lots of processor resources, and Gnome Software which I didn't remember installing (but I'm sure I did). The fan is now quiet. It appears that Clam was the problem all along, which is highly ironic.

That's been my experience with clam. Not sure if it's even useful on a desktop installation - isn't it just checking windows virus definitions? It seems like it's mainly for things like email servers.

#170 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] laptop fan running too much: cyber currency miner? Clam inop? » 2021-12-15 20:04:34

nobodyuknow wrote:

Thanks to all who replied. The references to malware tools and process researchers is just what I needed.

The laptop is only a few months old, but it's a possibility that the fan is toast. I hate to open the back because it's one of those new-fangled ones that require a plastic tool -- I used a plastic paint scraper before -- to be inserted to remove the back from the front. Oh, how I miss the old laptops with regular screws. But I'll do it to see if the fan is having problems.

If it's a new laptop then it's highly unlikely that your fan is the problem. I'd focus on trying to find the runaway process first. You can use ps -A to get the exact name and process ID of the process you want to kill once you find the offending one with htop. And sudo pkill [process name] will kill it for you. Let us know if you need more help.

#171 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] laptop fan running too much: cyber currency miner? Clam inop? » 2021-12-15 05:36:38

>"Any thoughts?"

Last time that happened to me I took the back cover off and found the fan was half broken. Bought a $10 replacement fan and some $8 thermal paste, replaced the fan and applied new thermal paste, and it ran like brand new.

Also check top or htop to see what process is running a lot, like Altoid said. I doubt you have a crypto-miner unless you've been adding weird search bars to your browser, or torrenting a lot of movies off of pirate bay. But you could have an out of control process. ClamAV itself is known to cause high cpu usage sometimes.

#172 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Alternative browser for Devuan/Debian - Brave » 2021-12-13 22:54:02

zephyr wrote:

Aitor wrote: DEB packages of version 78.15.0 are available at:

http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/

Wow! Thanks Aitor, checking it out!

cheers

zephyr

If you like icecat, the Guix package manager has preview version 91. It's an incredibly good browser. I disable their librejs extensions and use noscript instead, but it's probably got the best default privacy and security configuration of any firefox-based browser.

My step-by-step post on installing Guix and icecat on Trisquel (should be the same steps on Devuan) is here: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/installi … d-chromium

#173 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Interesting article - Ventoy » 2021-12-11 21:36:56

I keep Trisquel and Void and Devuan on a ventoy 16GB stick. Very handy, especially the ability to have different live environments to jump into, or to be able to chroot into one of my different installed systems.

I found through a lot of time consuming trial and error that the Guix distro will not install from a Ventoy stick, although the Guix live environment works fine on Ventoy.

#174 Re: Off-topic » Ode to HoaS (and Sid) » 2021-12-11 16:22:33

MiyoLinux wrote:

Okay...enough of this feigned pet foolishness.3. Fast forward to modern-day....
We bought a chiweenie for our son's first dog. She's a natural...the perfect OS guard dog...our son named her Julliet, but I call her Puppy...

https://youtu.be/ysx-8OLlhuA

She's nearly the perfect guard dog but why does she give openbsd users a pass? I trained my chickens to bite openbsd users.

#175 Re: Off-topic » Ode to HoaS (and Sid) » 2021-12-11 04:23:28

zapper wrote:

you probably pick them up every now and then

They walk all over me. But I realized from reading your signature - I cannot serve both God and chicken!

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