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#1501 Re: Devuan » Why are systemd files present in Devuan? » 2021-03-01 18:36:41
golinux high-fives dice
#1502 Re: Devuan » Why are systemd files present in Devuan? » 2021-02-28 21:35:58
systemd is a trojan horse that wants to own and destroy what we have worked for for so long. Are you a trojan troll HoaS? 
#1503 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [100% SOLVED] Pulseaudio - I can't start it [100% SOLVED] » 2021-02-26 21:19:16
It's always a good idea to read the Release Notes:
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf … _notes.txt
#1504 Re: Devuan » Why are systemd files present in Devuan? » 2021-02-26 15:51:26
@mckaygerhard . . . if Devuan does not suit you, feel free to go elsewhere.
#1505 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » PulseAudio always resets to mute » 2021-02-26 02:53:55
IIRC it's linked to wayland and not friendly to X11. There was some discussion perhaps here recently. In the meantime from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PipeWire
"One of the initial goals was to improve handling of video on Linux the same way PulseAudio improved handling of audio"
That about says everything . . .
#1506 Re: Devuan » As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De » 2021-02-25 23:45:59
But from a technical standpoint alone: Is there still any technical advantage over debian 11? What are the reasons to keep Devuan when Debian has the same features?
there is also this mysterious package called "orphan-sysvinit-scripts" which seems like a substitute for some sysd packages. Not sure on that one. https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/or … it-scripts
On one hand, Debian presents the appearance of offering additional init options while at the same time, the sysvinit scripts needed to use those alternate inits are being randomly removed from Debian packages by maintainers as the second GR allows. The "orphan-sysvinit-scripts" collects those discarded scripts so those (now broken) packages will still work with alternate inits. Debian also does not allow alternate inits to be chosen during installation. Devuan filters systemd dependent packages that will not work properly with alternate inits. I can't imagine that Debian has any of those safeguards in place. IOW, to me, Debian's inclusion of alternate inits appears to be more window dressing than a viable and well-supported solution and one that is designed to fail.
#1507 Re: Freedom Hacks » Keeping sysvinit in LMDE3 :) » 2021-02-25 07:32:25
I take it you've seen this article already?
Good news that there is interest in doing this. Almost exactly 3 years ago, I had brief contact with the LM developer and we discussed the possibility of basing LMDE on Devuan. Then I never heard from him again. Now it seems this idea might finally be taking off. Would be great if it happened!
#1508 Re: Devuan » As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De » 2021-02-24 23:21:13
Morty . . . did you actually read daseins post? A lucid analysis of the first GR vote.
#1509 Re: Devuan » As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De » 2021-02-24 19:43:05
yes sadly the reddit community was/is always heavily biased towards a pro-systemd view. As Debian opens the door to other init systems these opinions will hopefully change. Thanks to you Devuan community. I appreciate that.
My negative response to that thread was not about the pro-systemd bias. That kind of useless yammering is not an environment in which I want to swim. A complete waste of time.
I also dont think the debian votings regarding systemd were fair and many users got mistreated for their opinion in the linux communites. It always felt like a political thing to me. Like a powergrab.
That is an understatement. I think you might not have been around when all that went down so please educate yourself: Combatting Revisionist History
But from a technical standpoint alone: Is there still any technical advantage over debian 11? What are the reasons to keep Devuan when Debian has the same features? Just trying to get some infos to make my decision.
Yes. We have an amazing team that actually collaborates and solves problems collaboratively with egos left at the door.
#1510 Re: Devuan » Meet Chimaera's deepsea theme » 2021-02-24 07:59:28
Well, this theme has traveled a twisty road. I have just posted the (hopefully) final palette for the deepsea theme in the first post of this thread. More screenies to follow.
#1511 Re: Devuan » As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De » 2021-02-24 06:43:10
Now I know why I don't hang out on reddit.
Trust is a fragile thing and not easy to repair.
If you hang around here for a while maybe you will understand why Devuan is so special . . . or maybe not. It's about more than code . . .
#1512 Re: Installation » Devuan icon » 2021-02-14 02:51:26
Yes, there are square ones and round ones. Glad you could find them as they are rather buried in git, It's always good to make it your own!
#1513 Re: Installation » Devuan icon » 2021-02-14 02:11:00
#1514 Re: Other Issues » php-fpm in chimaera current » 2021-02-13 03:14:33
Have a look at this maybe?
#1515 Re: Off-topic » Gemini protocol » 2021-02-12 04:25:03
I LOVE the Gemini project. Devuan is well familiar with this project and gopher also. Thanks for bringing it to the attention of our forum users.
#1516 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon » 2021-02-04 17:43:19
I'm on Devuan Stretch ...
There is no Devuan Stretch.
#1517 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon » 2021-02-04 00:17:04
I only clicked one video but it played fine in my older PM once I enabled video (which I usually have blocked).
#1518 Re: Devuan » devuan and LTS » 2021-01-29 22:23:50
Get real. Some folk just know everything and no one else can do anything right . . . 
#1519 Re: Other Issues » How do I install backports in Beowulf? » 2021-01-28 20:09:53
That's not how backports should be used. If you upgrade everything in backports it could fubar your system. Only use backports for specific packages that are needed. For example, if you get a new video card and need newer firmware.
If you want the very newest run ceres (unstable) but be prepared for breakages.
#1520 Re: Other Issues » Please add Plymouth package to beowulf repo » 2021-01-28 03:51:33
It is currently unavailable because it is on the banned packages list.
But someone has forked it and looks like it is now available in unstable and chimaera.
#1521 Re: Devuan » Debian has fallen. What now? » 2021-01-28 02:58:17
Came across this via Distrowatch. I think this proves that Debian's vote about init systems was a complete farce.
We've been headed there for a very long time. It started in 2014 with the GR vote on init diversity that inspired the creation of Devuan. This excellent post-mortem by dasein analyzes all the gory details. A must read if you want to understand how we have gotten to where we are:
#1522 Re: Off-topic » A peek into the future of distros » 2021-01-27 19:24:47
Looks like Devuan will be needing more hands on deck . . .
#1523 Re: Off-topic » A peek into the future of distros » 2021-01-27 17:33:51
This is news?
#1524 Re: Off-topic » Our dystopian present » 2021-01-22 22:39:05
Nice to see you and thanks for keeping the link updated. From a 2021 perspective, all that seems so naive. We really have gone over the cliff . . .
#1525 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Torrent not working » 2021-01-18 17:29:55
Thanks for alerting us to this. We're working on it . . .
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