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#126 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 02:42:46

Ok, "xorg needs something that is not available" could explain why plain startx or startxfce won't work.
But how do i make those commands work? What it is that is needed?

Also it is annoying that GUI is put into init 2. In the Good Old Times X started in init 3 or init 5 .
That way, if there's problems with X, you could make init 2 the default and log into text mode.

#127 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2024-03-27 02:39:57

Currently reading short story "Hail and Farewell" by Ray Bradbury.
Not in the mood for that kind of stuff this week.
I heard about something called "House of whispers" which has something to do with Neil Gaiman. That seems more intresting. Maybe some day.

#128 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 02:25:05

The obvious solution, of course, is to reinstall Daedalus, this time with desktop version instead of netinstall.
Considering the partition scheme i currently have, netinstall is not absolutely necessary and on the other hand maybe desktop install disk knows how to set up xorg properly.

The amount of automagick in these current distros is annoying... when there is problems there's also no config files to be found.

Edit. maybe find /usr -name 'xorg*' helps. Didn't find xorg.conf under /etc last night.

#129 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 02:20:55

GlennW, any ideas concerning seatd and tty:s ?
I would like to have a working xorg/xfce/lxdm again. There may be some things i would like to do this week.

#130 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 02:18:00

Tried to remove xorg/xorg/lxd* - related packages and reinstall some of them. Now i have kind of broken my system. LUckily chimaera livedvd still works.

Before that i went into text mode again.
Run "Xorg -configure" .
And then tried to start X with the configfile which the previous command provided.
X refused to start.
I saw some complaints about seatd in the log (Xorg.0.lod under my home_dir).

In some log file there were also complaints about /dev/tty$SOMETHING - files.

So seatd/libseatd/access rights of /dev/tty* are the suspects now.

Btw. i'm using Daedalus now instead of Chimaera.

#132 Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-26 20:46:54

nahkhiirmees
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https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49159#p49159 is related to this message

The problem wasn't lacking pm-util. I know now that much.
Disabled lightdm with sysv-rc-conf .
Rebooted (maybe not that necessary but anyways) .
Logged in as normal user.
Tried startx and startxfce4 .
Found out that Fujitsu's pad was not working. Ditto for usb-mouse.
Last year i had similar kind of problem but i thought that it was just /tmp -related problem. Or that my scripts broke something. Maybe that's not the whole story.

Had to shut down with powerbutton because ctrl+alt+backspace didn't do anything. Nor ctrl+alt+del.

Fujitsu had problems with obeying ctrl+alt+F-keys before, i think.

Now i have removed lightdm and replaced it with lxdm. Soon i will try exiting from xfce and see what happens.
Looks like when i have logged in from lxdm , i can use "ctr+alt+f"-keys.

And after that i'll try to disable lxdm and run startx or startxfce4 as normal_user.

#133 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-26 18:38:45

Today i realized that netinstall's sofware won't necessarily "see" Fuhitsu's motherboard from within the vm. It's rater that PIIX4 or ICH9.
So that may have some effect on whether or not there will be bootable ESP-partition inside that vm.

#134 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fujitsu Lifebook U728 + Devuan 4 » 2024-03-26 18:34:35

I have used update-iniramfs and mkinitramfs before. Not sure that init{ramfs,rd} have something to do with that freezing problem.
But i'll return to that signing/verifying-subject soon.

It will be highly practical if it is only vmlinuz that needs to be signed (or verified during boot process).
On the other hand maybe initrd should be signed also.

Edit. question: can i brick my machine by experimenting with mokutil?
I think that PK and KEK should be left alone even if they can be changed.

#135 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fujitsu Lifebook U728 + Devuan 4 » 2024-03-26 18:27:17

From ~/.xession-errors if found rows with: "failed to execute child process /usr/bin/pm-is-supported" . So maybe there are package or 2 missing. Have to find which.

Edit. I have already tried ctr+alt+del, ctrl+alt+backspace. Didn't seem to do anything. Maybe i'll try again but somewhat i doubt that they help.

#136 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fujitsu Lifebook U728 + Devuan 4 » 2024-03-25 23:38:07

Fujitsu is now mostly working as supposed to. I have lightdm as display manager and xfce4 as desktop software. With those there's a small problem.
If i exit from xfce with "log out" , the display goes dark gray and nothing happens until i push power button.
On the other hand if i say "sudo /sbin/reboot" as normal user, the display also goes dark gray but the machine still reboots after some waiting.
What's going on?

I think i have read a post about that "hangs while rebooting/logging out"-problem but it takes some effort to find it...

#137 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-25 23:31:31

Also tried to make an EFI (or ESP)partition into that virtual hd. Not sure if i succeeded. I guess making gpt-style partition table was a wrong move.
But i could make a bios partition. Unfortunately couldn't boot that vm from vhd.

#138 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-25 23:28:19

Tried to install Daedalus netinstall on a vm. I have confirmed that i have to re-enter details about "/" -partition after configuring logical volumes. Or i can't get out of that partitioning phase.
Slightly irrational like Spock would say.

#139 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21) » 2024-03-25 23:24:07

There's no .asoundrc  or asound.conf nor alsamixergui in my system. I'll have to install some packages. But anyways, wireplumber was the quick fix.

#142 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fujitsu Lifebook U728 + Devuan 4 » 2024-03-24 04:31:53

https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/tr … ign.1.html "Sign an EFI boot image for use with secure boot."

So initrd:s aren't usually signed? Or usually shim doesn't care about those?

#143 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fujitsu Lifebook U728 + Devuan 4 » 2024-03-24 02:00:29

... on the other hand, to be able to mount /home from encrypted lvm partition(that is not /) during boot means that initrd has to be modified ...

... but there is no need to modify initrd if there is only 1 big / -partition . No separate /home or swap or anything.

But right now i'm not going to start all over from scratch.

#144 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fujitsu Lifebook U728 + Devuan 4 » 2024-03-24 01:33:01

Internet connection works. Lvm works. Sudo works. And "su -" works too.
Soon it is time to install xorg and vbox and fix audio.

#145 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fujitsu Lifebook U728 + Devuan 4 » 2024-03-24 01:29:08

I'm between sixes and sevens about that EFI partition(and SB). Maybe i'll bypass that someday(if i can). Boot straight into /boot part instead. With a pre-EFI-era machine that's trivial operation. But maybe not with that Fujitsu.

But I've been also thinking that shim should contain public keys for some distros, right? So with a stock kernel and a one_size_fits_all_initrd there shouldn't be problems with shim when booting those?

... on the other hand, to be able to mount /home from encrypted lvm partition(that is not /) during boot means that initrd has to be modified ...

Edit. I'm under an impression from mokutil-related pages that i can make my own keys with openssl and sign whatever i want on /boot with them. The user_made keys are supposed to go to firmware, right?

#146 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-24 01:17:00

Btw , can netinstall's partitioning tool make a working EFI partition or not?

#147 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-24 01:05:18

Next time i'll try to remember check the "/"-situation after configuring LVM but before "done". Just in case.

Today i was able to boot the livedvd's,  so last night i must have changed the firmware settings before trying to boot the Chimaera or Daedalus smile

Still planning to run that memtest though.

#148 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-23 13:13:11

If it tells you that you have not assigned "/" to a partition then I suppose one way out is to assign "/" to a partition.

I thought that i did.

Starting to think that i should run memtest on that machine.
Last night i noticed that i couldn't boot Chimaera dektop live nor Daedalus desktop live. I think firmware settings should allow booting those. Combine with other difficult behaviour lately...

#149 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-22 20:47:38

Topic 8 in https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … encryption might give some insight how the result about should look alike.

The installation procedure wasn't like that.

sda1=EFI
sda2=/boot
sda3=reserved for encrypted /
sda4=reserved for encrypted VG

would be the idea as far as the partitioning goes.

Call the "Logical Volume Manager". You are asked to provide a name for the Logical Volume group at first. When that is setup you can define Logical volumes, e.g. 1_root, 2_swap as I do, and 3_home if you like. You will be asked for a size definition. You may use MB, % ... . Exit the "Logical Volume Manager" when you are done.
Now you should find /dev/mapper/1_root .... in the display. Select these devices one by one and assign file system and the mount point. Only when this point is done you can leave the partitioning menu and start the installation.

That "Logical Volume" part was the problem. As i said before, i was able to make /dev/sda3_crypt and /dev/sda4_crypt . Even make a PV inside /dev/sda4_crypt .
But the problems started when trying to make VG, and devices /dev/vg/swap and /dev/vg/home . And make those the swap device and /home - partition. I ran into complaints about /-partition. Couldn't get past  that "partitioning the disk"-phase.

I guess i could provide some screenshots after i have successfully installed xorg and vbox, to clarify what i mean. But that will take some time.

#150 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-22 19:01:37

Daedalus netinstall's UI looks very much like Debian netinstall's UI so i guess the former one is really not under Devuan's jurisdiction?

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