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#126 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] removing adjfontsize (LARGER FONTS/SMALLER FONTS) » 2025-10-01 12:33:36
It would be some third party package you installed.
zeus@9600k:~$ apt-file search /usr/share/applications/LARGER_FONTS.desktop
zeus@9600k:~$ apt-file search /usr/share/applications/SMALLER_FONTS.desktop
zeus@9600k:~$ apt-file search adjfontsizeAs you can see apt-file finds no mention of them in any of the repositories I have listed with a freshly update search cache. I include all of them in my sources file so they do not come from Devuan sources.
#127 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] difficulty compiling openssl » 2025-10-01 10:11:39
It's openssl 3.5.1.
Obviously not using excalibur as it has complied just fine there and is installed on my machine. Couple of options see if it will install from it onto your machine or upgrade to what will soon be the new stable, since trixie went stable in Debian the excalibur essentially is that with little in the way of changes being made in it. Only the normal security and proposed updates that are making their way into Debian's stable version coming through.
zeus@9600k:~$ apt-cache policy openssl
openssl:
Installed: 3.5.1-1
Candidate: 3.5.1-1
Version table:
*** 3.5.1-1 990
990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status#128 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Darkness - ISO Devuan Testing + TDE for AMD64 » 2025-09-29 13:37:08
Passwords are the same as in the first post:
As I explained in the post anything that requires the TDE su password as is asked for with many, perhaps all, of the system tools does not work with the default passwords. Setting a password for the root account allows these tools to work by using it.
#129 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Darkness - ISO Devuan Testing + TDE for AMD64 » 2025-09-29 02:27:32
So what is the TDE su password? Without it anything that requires it will not work, I can simulate an install using the user/user for the sudo never tried the root/root for anything yet as it has not asked for it. Looks reasonable enough in my light usage so far.
Edit: You can set the root password with sudo passwd root entering the user for the sudo password then whatever you want for the root. It worked to allow the setting of the timezone from the default CEST it uses.
#130 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] No WiFi. No WiFi devices in Connman. » 2025-09-29 01:19:15
The directory usr/lib/firmware does not exist on my system. Will creating it and adding
No need just install the proper package and it will be created with needed firmware put there.
zeus@9600k:~$ apt-file search mediatek/mt7610e.bin
firmware-mediatek: /usr/lib/firmware/mediatek/mt7610e.binYou want the firmware-mediatek package.
#131 Re: Installation » Cant do upgrade Dadedalus to Ceres » 2025-09-24 01:33:44
KDE3 was an outlier, because it's "new thing" was fixing the intolerable loading times of KDE2 (remember "prelinking?) and adding some graphical bling... both of which are kinda hard to catastrophically bungle.
Yes I remember those days well I used if before for many years in the pre-1.0 days then I skipped the version 4 and their lets go with the cell phone interface new shinny they always chase. I am actually shocked they have not jumped on the AI enshitification band wagon yet to tell the truth. But yeah they always do that way too many changes in the interface and everything else dump it as finished then they clean up the mess later. This shows particularly badly in the Neon they put out I was stupid enough to try, what a piece of junk that is, they have no clue how to package software with errors all the time with duplicate files in multiple packages, upgrades that do not work or do not boot just a total mess a lot of the time. Luckily I always make a backup before upgrades to be able to roll back it has saved my ass few times with clowns like that putting out an OS to use. I like the desktop but not much more of their development style.
#132 Re: Installation » Cant do upgrade Dadedalus to Ceres » 2025-09-23 18:42:34
PulseAudio guy calling Linux audio a mess. Did he forget that it was his project that took the existing mess, and unloaded a giant steaming turd on it?
That would be the same serial offending asshole who has brought us the systemd garbage as well.
#133 Re: Installation » Cant do upgrade Dadedalus to Ceres » 2025-09-23 14:29:01
IIRC upstream stopped doing any serious work on it somewhere around 2003.
You are off by half a decade 2008 was the year they released that steaming pile of dung that was KDE4 and dumped the previous version. The same year I dumped it and started with a hackintosh with OSX Leopard the first possible to run on intel hardware. Which I had the exact board they used to develop it on after buying and selling a couple of PPC Macs and using that profit to build good fast computer. After finding they had indeed earned their slow, loud, noisy and hot running reputation honestly.
#134 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Growing file bloat in ~/.dbus/session-bus and /root/.dbus/session-bus » 2025-09-18 23:25:18
I have not seen anyone (yet) report that their system is actually working as intended. ie: creating a new machine-id at boot.
Mine does it, this is the last time the machine was booted.
root@9600k:~# ls -l /var/lib/dbus/machine-id
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Sep 12 15:17 /var/lib/dbus/machine-idOnly it does not create the files everyone else talks about in the .dbus directories. Not like I care much everything works like it should without them.
#135 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Growing file bloat in ~/.dbus/session-bus and /root/.dbus/session-bus » 2025-09-18 03:54:03
redgreen925 do ya use a desktop environment like mate, xfce, kde
I have used KDE for the last twenty-six or so years on Linux since the pre 1.0 days when I installed it during my rpm hell days on Redhat 5.2 way back then before I found the Mandrake that had it per-installed a year or two later. Then I moved onto Debian Woody when it came out and found the one true OS before they bastardized it with the systemd garbage. My dbus config.
eus@9600k:~$ cat /etc/default/dbus
# This is a configuration file for /etc/init.d/dbus; it allows you to
# perform common modifications to the behavior of the dbus daemon
# startup without editing the init script (and thus getting prompted
# by dpkg on upgrades). We all love dpkg prompts.
# Parameters to pass to dbus.
PARAMS=""
# IDTYPE: how to deal with /var/lib/dbus/machine-id:
#
# if IDTYPE="RANDOM": regenerate /var/lib/dbus/machine-id at each boot
# else keep it fixed across reboots
IDTYPE="RANDOM"#136 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] devuan (fresh install) noticeably slow compared to debian » 2025-09-18 03:45:58
only issue i found with ddual-triple booting or the like is that grub tends to install itself at times, even when told otherwise, onto the windows partition in EFI, but that can be easily fixed if it so happens; (booting into windows and deleting the entry manually via diskpart et al) maybe this happens beause my BIOS could have trouble differentiating the three NVME i have installed, have not found a reason why it happens on my PC.
The Debian based installer will install to the first drive seen by the installer in the machine same as windows does no matter what is selected. Only when you go out of your way to deselect all efi system partitions for use except the one you want used will it do what you want and install onto a non first system seen drive. This garbage behaviour bothered me for many years until I figure out what it was doing and the way to avoid it doing so. Not much of a clue on other distributions installers as I tend to only use Debian systems. If you backup the /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI file before installing any Linux then you can restore it to get the windows boot listing back as this is the main file any 64bit OS uses to boot on an EFI machine. Though I have found it is put there by both except for something like Arch/Void systems as my testing on them showed they do direct entry in the EFI firmware for them to boot and ship a broken EFI implementation without that normal usage others do.
#137 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Growing file bloat in ~/.dbus/session-bus and /root/.dbus/session-bus » 2025-09-17 22:57:13
Strange mine seems to work just fine without any of it in the root directory, the user directory seems to just have directories with nothing in them..
zeus@9600k:~$ du -h .dbus/
12K .dbus/session-bus
16K .dbus/
root@9600k:~# du -h .dbus/
du: cannot access '.dbus/': No such file or directory
root@9600k:~# cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur)"
NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="6"
VERSION="6 (excalibur)"
VERSION_CODENAME="excalibur"
ID=devuan
ID_LIKE=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.devuan.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://devuan.org/os/community"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.devuan.org/"Edit: I would add I did nothing special to disable any of it.
#138 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] LibreOffice install failing (daedalus ARM64) » 2025-09-17 22:46:28
It will install here on both my excalibur x86_64 system and Debian bookworm on my Pi4 8gb.
root@9600k:~# apt -s install libreoffice
Installing:
libreoffice
Installing dependencies:
ant libneon27t64
ant-optional libnice10
ca-certificates-java libnumbertext-1.0-0
coinor-libcbc3.1 libnumbertext-data
coinor-libcgl1 libodfgen-0.1-1
coinor-libclp1 libonnx1t64
coinor-libcoinmp0 libonnxruntime1.21
coinor-libcoinutils3v5 libopenh264-8
coinor-libosi1v5 libopenni2-0
default-jre liborcus-0.18-0
default-jre-headless liborcus-parser-0.18-0
firebird-utils libpagemaker-0.0-0
firebird4.0-common libpentaho-reporting-flow-engine-java
firebird4.0-common-doc libpixie-java
firebird4.0-server-core libpq5
firebird4.0-utils libpthreadpool0
fonts-crosextra-caladea libqxp-0.0-0
fonts-crosextra-carlito libraptor2-0
fonts-dejavu librasqal3t64
fonts-dejavu-extra librdf0t64
fonts-linuxlibertine libre2-11
fonts-opensymbol libreoffice-base
fonts-sil-gentium libreoffice-base-core
fonts-sil-gentium-basic libreoffice-base-drivers
gstreamer1.0-libav libreoffice-calc
gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad libreoffice-common
gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly libreoffice-core
java-common libreoffice-draw
java-wrappers libreoffice-impress
libabw-0.1-1 libreoffice-java-common
libactivation-java libreoffice-math
libapache-pom-java libreoffice-nlpsolver
libatk-wrapper-java libreoffice-report-builder
libatk-wrapper-java-jni libreoffice-report-builder-bin
libavtp0 libreoffice-script-provider-bsh
libbase-java libreoffice-script-provider-js
libbatik-java libreoffice-script-provider-python
libbcmail-java libreoffice-sdbc-firebird
libbcpkix-java libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
libbcprov-java libreoffice-sdbc-mysql
libbcutil-java libreoffice-sdbc-postgresql
libboost-iostreams1.83.0 libreoffice-style-colibre
libboost-locale1.83.0 libreoffice-uiconfig-base
libbox2d2 libreoffice-uiconfig-calc
libbsh-java libreoffice-uiconfig-common
libcdr-0.1-1 libreoffice-uiconfig-draw
libclucene-contribs1t64 libreoffice-uiconfig-impress
libclucene-core1t64 libreoffice-uiconfig-math
libcmis-0.6-6t64 libreoffice-uiconfig-report-builder
libcolamd3 libreoffice-uiconfig-writer
libcommons-collections3-java libreoffice-wiki-publisher
libcommons-io-java libreoffice-writer
libcommons-logging-java librepository-java
libcommons-parent-java librevenge-0.0-0
libcpuinfo0 librhino-java
libdnnl3.6 libsac-java
libe-book-0.1-1 libserializer-java
libehcache-java libservlet-api-java
libel-api-java libservlet3.1-java
libeot0 libsidplay1v5
libepubgen-0.1-1 libsoundtouch1
libetonyek-0.1-1 libspandsp2t64
libexttextcat-2.0-0 libsrtp2-1
libexttextcat-data libstaroffice-0.0-0
libfbclient2 libsuitesparseconfig7
libflute-java libuno-cppu3t64
libfonts-java libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3t64
libformula-java libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3t64
libfreehand-0.1-1 libuno-sal3t64
libgssdp-1.6-0 libuno-salhelpergcc3-3t64
libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0 libunoloader-java
libgupnp-1.6-0 libvisio-0.1-1
libgupnp-igd-1.6-0 libvo-aacenc0
libharfbuzz-icu0 libvo-amrwbenc0
libhsqldb1.8.0-java libwebsocket-api-java
libitext-java libwildmidi2
libjaxp1.3-java libwpd-0.10-10
libjcommon-java libwpg-0.3-3
libjsp-api-java libwps-0.4-4
liblangtag-common libxml-commons-external-java
liblangtag1 libxml-java
liblayout-java libxmlgraphics-commons-java
liblibreoffice-java libxmlsec1t64-nss
libloader-java libxnnpack0.20241108
liblrdf0 libyajl2
libltc11 libzbar0t64
libmail-java libzmf-0.0-0
libmhash2 libzxcvbn0
libmjpegutils-2.1-0t64 openjdk-21-jre
libmpeg2encpp-2.1-0t64 openjdk-21-jre-headless
libmplex2-2.1-0t64 python3-uno
libmspub-0.1-1 uno-libs-private
libmwaw-0.3-3 ure
libmythes-1.2-0 ure-java
snip ...
Summary:
Upgrading: 0, Installing: 189, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 0
Inst libreoffice-style-colibre (4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2 Devuan:6.0/testing [all])
Inst libreoffice-uiconfig-common (4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2 Devuan:6.0/testing [all])
Inst libuno-sal3t64 (4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2 Devuan:6.0/testing [amd64])The bookworm output from my Pi4 8gb whose files should be in the daedalus repositories.
root@raspi:~# apt -s install libreoffice
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
adwaita-icon-theme alsa-topology-conf alsa-ucm-conf ant ant-optional
at-spi2-common at-spi2-core ca-certificates-java coinor-libcbc3
coinor-libcgl1 coinor-libclp1 coinor-libcoinmp1v5 coinor-libcoinutils3v5
coinor-libosi1v5 cpp cpp-12 dconf-gsettings-backend dconf-service
default-jre default-jre-headless dictionaries-common emacsen-common
firebird3.0-common firebird3.0-common-doc firebird3.0-server-core
firebird3.0-utils fontconfig fontconfig-config fonts-crosextra-caladea
fonts-crosextra-carlito fonts-dejavu fonts-dejavu-core fonts-dejavu-extra
fonts-droid-fallback fonts-liberation fonts-liberation2 fonts-linuxlibertine
fonts-noto-core fonts-noto-extra fonts-noto-mono fonts-noto-ui-core
fonts-opensymbol fonts-sil-gentium fonts-sil-gentium-basic fonts-urw-base35
gcc-12-base ghostscript glib-networking glib-networking-common
glib-networking-services gsettings-desktop-schemas gsfonts gstreamer1.0-gl
gstreamer1.0-libav gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-base
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly gstreamer1.0-x
gtk-update-icon-cache hicolor-icon-theme hunspell-en-us imagemagick-6-common
iso-codes java-common java-wrappers liba52-0.7.4 libaa1 libaacs0
libabsl20220623 libabw-0.1-1 libactivation-java libaom3 libapache-pom-java
libasound2 libasound2-data libass9 libasyncns0 libatk-bridge2.0-0
libatk-wrapper-java libatk-wrapper-java-jni libatk1.0-0 libatspi2.0-0
libauthen-sasl-perl libavc1394-0 libavcodec59 libavfilter8 libavformat59
libavutil57 libbase-java libbatik-java libbcmail-java libbcpkix-java
libbcprov-java libbcutil-java libbdplus0 libblas3 libbluray2
libboost-filesystem1.74.0 libboost-locale1.74.0 libbox2d2 libbs2b0
libbsh-java libcaca0 libcairo-gobject2 libcairo2 libcdio19 libcdparanoia0
libcdr-0.1-1 libchromaprint1 libcjson1 libclone-perl libclucene-contribs1v5
libclucene-core1v5 libcodec2-1.0 libcolamd2 libcolord2
libcommons-collections3-java libcommons-io-java libcommons-logging-java
libcommons-parent-java libdata-dump-perl libdatrie1 libdav1d6 libdc1394-25
libdca0 libdconf1 libde265-0 libdecor-0-0 libdecor-0-plugin-1-cairo
libdeflate0 libdirectfb-1.7-7 libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21
libdrm-amdgpu1 libdrm-common libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2 libdv4
libdvdnav4 libdvdread8 libdw1 libe-book-0.1-1 libegl-mesa0 libegl1
libehcache-java libel-api-java libencode-locale-perl libeot0 libepoxy0
libepubgen-0.1-1 libetonyek-0.1-1 libexttextcat-2.0-0 libexttextcat-data
libfaad2 libfbclient2 libfftw3-double3 libfile-basedir-perl
libfile-desktopentry-perl libfile-listing-perl libfile-mimeinfo-perl
libflac12 libflite1 libfluidsynth3 libflute-java libfont-afm-perl
libfontconfig1 libfontenc1 libfonts-java libformula-java libfreeaptx0
libfreehand-0.1-1 libfreetype6 libfribidi0 libgail-common libgail18 libgbm1
libgcc-s1 libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-bin libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common
libgfortran5 libgif7 libgl1 libgl1-mesa-dri libglapi-mesa libgles2 libglvnd0
libglx-mesa0 libglx0 libgme0 libgomp1 libgpgmepp6 libgraphene-1.0-0
libgraphite2-3 libgs-common libgs10 libgs10-common libgsm1 libgssdp-1.6-0
libgstreamer-gl1.0-0 libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0
libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 libgstreamer1.0-0 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin
libgtk-3-common libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libgudev-1.0-0
libgupnp-1.6-0 libgupnp-igd-1.0-4 libharfbuzz-icu0 libharfbuzz0b libheif1
libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl libhtml-format-perl
libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl
libhttp-cookies-perl libhttp-daemon-perl libhttp-date-perl
libhttp-message-perl libhttp-negotiate-perl libhunspell-1.7-0 libhwy1
libhyphen0 libib-util libice6 libidn12 libiec61883-0 libijs-0.35
libimath-3-1-29 libinstpatch-1.0-2 libio-html-perl libio-socket-ssl-perl
libio-stringy-perl libipc-system-simple-perl libisl23 libitext-java
libjack-jackd2-0 libjaxp1.3-java libjbig0 libjbig2dec0 libjcommon-java
libjpeg62-turbo libjson-glib-1.0-0 libjson-glib-1.0-common libjsp-api-java
libjxl0.7 libjxr-tools libjxr0 libkate1 liblangtag-common liblangtag1
liblapack3 liblayout-java liblcms2-2 libldacbt-enc2 liblerc4
liblibreoffice-java liblilv-0-0 libllvm15 libloader-java liblqr-1-0 liblrdf0
libltc11 libltdl7 liblwp-mediatypes-perl liblwp-protocol-https-perl
libmagickcore-6.q16-6 libmagickcore-6.q16-6-extra libmagickwand-6.q16-6
libmail-java libmailtools-perl libmariadb3 libmbedcrypto7 libmhash2
libmjpegutils-2.1-0 libmodplug1 libmp3lame0 libmpc3 libmpcdec6 libmpeg2-4
libmpeg2encpp-2.1-0 libmpfr6 libmpg123-0 libmplex2-2.1-0 libmspub-0.1-1
libmwaw-0.3-3 libmysofa1 libmythes-1.2-0 libneon27 libnet-dbus-perl
libnet-http-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libnet-ssleay-perl libnice10 libnorm1
libnspr4 libnss3 libnuma1 libnumbertext-1.0-0 libnumbertext-data
libodfgen-0.1-1 libogg0 libopenal-data libopenal1 libopencore-amrnb0
libopencore-amrwb0 libopenexr-3-1-30 libopenh264-7 libopenjp2-7 libopenmpt0
libopenni2-0 libopus0 liborc-0.4-0 liborcus-0.17-0 liborcus-parser-0.17-0
libpagemaker-0.0-0 libpango-1.0-0 libpangocairo-1.0-0 libpangoft2-1.0-0
libpaper-utils libpaper1 libpentaho-reporting-flow-engine-java libpgm-5.3-0
libpixie-java libpixman-1-0 libplacebo208 libpng16-16 libpocketsphinx3
libpoppler126 libpostproc56 libpq5 libproxy1v5 libpulse0 libqrencode4
libqxp-0.0-0 librabbitmq4 libraptor2-0 librasqal3 librav1e0 libraw1394-11
librdf0 libregexp-ipv6-perl libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common
libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress
libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math libreoffice-nlpsolver
libreoffice-report-builder libreoffice-report-builder-bin
libreoffice-script-provider-bsh libreoffice-script-provider-js
libreoffice-script-provider-python libreoffice-sdbc-firebird
libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb libreoffice-sdbc-mysql libreoffice-sdbc-postgresql
libreoffice-style-colibre libreoffice-wiki-publisher libreoffice-writer
librepository-java librevenge-0.0-0 librist4 librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common
librubberband2 libsac-java libsamplerate0 libsbc1 libsdl2-2.0-0
libsensors-config libsensors5 libserd-0-0 libserializer-java
libservlet-api-java libservlet3.1-java libshine3 libshout3 libsidplay1v5
libsm6 libsnappy1v5 libsndfile1 libsndio7.0 libsodium23 libsord-0-0
libsoundtouch1 libsoup-3.0-0 libsoup-3.0-common libsoup2.4-1
libsoup2.4-common libsoxr0 libspandsp2 libspeex1 libsphinxbase3
libsratom-0-0 libsrt1.5-gnutls libsrtp2-1 libssh-gcrypt-4
libstaroffice-0.0-0 libstdc++6 libsuitesparseconfig5 libsvtav1enc1
libswresample4 libswscale6 libtag1v5 libtag1v5-vanilla libthai-data libthai0
libtheora0 libtie-ixhash-perl libtiff6 libtimedate-perl libtommath1
libtry-tiny-perl libtwolame0 libudfread0 libuno-cppu3
libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3 libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3 libuno-sal3
libuno-salhelpergcc3-3 libunoloader-java libunwind8 liburi-perl libusb-1.0-0
libv4l-0 libv4lconvert0 libva-drm2 libva-x11-2 libva2 libvdpau-va-gl1
libvdpau1 libvidstab1.1 libvisio-0.1-1 libvisual-0.4-0 libvo-aacenc0
libvo-amrwbenc0 libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2 libvorbisfile3 libvpx7 libvulkan1
libwavpack1 libwayland-client0 libwayland-cursor0 libwayland-egl1
libwayland-server0 libwebp7 libwebpdemux2 libwebpmux3
libwebrtc-audio-processing1 libwebsocket-api-java libwildmidi2
libwmflite-0.2-7 libwpd-0.10-10 libwpg-0.3-3 libwps-0.4-4 libwww-perl
libwww-robotrules-perl libx11-protocol-perl libx11-xcb1 libx264-164
libx265-199 libxaw7 libxcb-dri2-0 libxcb-dri3-0 libxcb-glx0 libxcb-present0
libxcb-randr0 libxcb-render0 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-sync1
libxcb-xfixes0 libxcb-xkb1 libxcomposite1 libxcursor1 libxdamage1 libxfixes3
libxft2 libxi6 libxinerama1 libxkbcommon-x11-0 libxkbcommon0 libxkbfile1
libxml-commons-external-java libxml-java libxml-parser-perl libxml-twig-perl
libxml-xpathengine-perl libxmlgraphics-commons-java libxmlsec1
libxmlsec1-nss libxmu6 libxpm4 libxrandr2 libxrender1 libxshmfence1
libxslt1.1 libxss1 libxt6 libxtst6 libxv1 libxvidcore4 libxxf86dga1
libxxf86vm1 libyajl2 libz3-4 libzbar0 libzimg2 libzmf-0.0-0 libzmq5
libzvbi-common libzvbi0 libzxing2 lp-solve mariadb-common mesa-va-drivers
mesa-vdpau-drivers mesa-vulkan-drivers mysql-common ocl-icd-libopencl1
openjdk-17-jre openjdk-17-jre-headless perl-openssl-defaults
pocketsphinx-en-us poppler-data python3-uno timgm6mb-soundfont
uno-libs-private ure ure-java va-driver-all vdpau-driver-all x11-common
x11-utils x11-xserver-utils xdg-utils xfonts-encodings xfonts-utils xkb-data
zutty
Suggested packages:
ant-doc default-jdk | java-compiler | java-sdk antlr javacc junit junit4
jython libbcel-java libbsf-java libcommons-net-java libjdepend-java
libjsch-java liblog4j1.2-java liboro-java libregexp-java libxalan2-java
snip...
x11-utils x11-xserver-utils xdg-utils xfonts-encodings xfonts-utils xkb-data
zutty
The following packages will be upgraded:
gcc-12-base libgcc-s1 libstdc++6
3 upgraded, 553 newly installed, 0 to remove and 93 not upgraded.
Inst fonts-droid-fallback (1:6.0.1r16-1.1 Debian:12.12/oldstable [all])It will basically install a desktop to get it but will do it. I would take a look at the policy command to see the version available to you as you might have to use them in a command to install the packages needed.
root@raspi:~# apt policy libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-calc libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-math libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-writer libreoffice-core
libreoffice:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9
Version table:
4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2~bpo12+1 100
100 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9 500
500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u8 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main arm64 Packages
libreoffice-base:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9
Version table:
4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2~bpo12+1 100
100 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9 500
500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u8 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main arm64 Packages
libreoffice-calc:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9
Version table:
4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2~bpo12+1 100
100 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9 500
500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u8 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main arm64 Packages
libreoffice-core:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9
Version table:
4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2~bpo12+1 100
100 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9 500
500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u8 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main arm64 Packages
libreoffice-draw:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9
Version table:
4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2~bpo12+1 100
100 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9 500
500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u8 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main arm64 Packages
libreoffice-impress:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9
Version table:
4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2~bpo12+1 100
100 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9 500
500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u8 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main arm64 Packages
libreoffice-math:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9
Version table:
4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2~bpo12+1 100
100 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9 500
500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u8 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main arm64 Packages
libreoffice-report-builder-bin:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9
Version table:
4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2~bpo12+1 100
100 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9 500
500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u8 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main arm64 Packages
libreoffice-writer:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9
Version table:
4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2~bpo12+1 100
100 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9 500
500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u8 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main arm64 Packages
libreoffice-core:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9
Version table:
4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2~bpo12+1 100
100 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9 500
500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm/main arm64 Packages
4:7.4.7-1+deb12u8 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main arm64 PackagesHere you can see it wants to install the version 4:7.4.7-1+deb12u9 of the packages from the main repository. It can be told to get the version 4:25.2.3-2+deb13u2~bpo12+1 from the -backports and systemd will have nothing to do with it both you and I would be using systend less systems. Me because I removed that junk from my Debian install you because you use distribution without it by default.
root@raspi:~# apt policy systemd
systemd:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
254.26-1~bpo12+1 -1
100 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports/main arm64 Packages
252.39-1~deb12u1 -1
500 http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian bookworm/main arm64 Packages
252.38-1~deb12u1 -1
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main arm64 Packages#139 Re: Packaging for Devuan » different versions of same package, kicad » 2025-09-17 17:12:05
Either the appimage as mentioned or compiling your own version using perhaps /usr/local/bin as the place for the binary and an edit possibly of the make file to change the binary name to something like kicad7 for version7 for the new name to prevent confusion in running it.
#140 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] devuan (fresh install) noticeably slow compared to debian » 2025-09-13 01:03:40
What kind of message should I be looking for ?
Well the way I read that is there is a lack of useful information. At the very least we need to know if the software installed is identical in both OSs. For that matter the OSs versions involved. The method of determining this "slowness" that you are using. Without those and many more details no one will be able to help you.
#141 Re: Installation » Cant do upgrade Dadedalus to Ceres » 2025-09-10 22:03:49
apt-get is not going to be deprecated.
A quick reading of the release notes shows exactly one mention of apt-get and that is telling you to use it instead in scripts not to use apt. No one mentioned depreciation only the official documentation now saying use apt.
#142 Re: Installation » Cant do upgrade Dadedalus to Ceres » 2025-09-10 19:05:30
Two points firstly you are lucky it is so close to the last Debian release of Trixie as the unstable files as very similar to it still. So close that it will not cause much trouble skipping a full release and going to two versions ahead which is totally unsupported. Your path to upgrade in normal circumstances should have been the one single release the excalibur the equivalent of Trixie right now then another upgrade to ceres the unstable Debian version now used. The recommended commands to do this type of upgrading has changed Debian now says use apt instead of apt-get . So to do it first apt update then apt upgrade to ensure you are fully up to date with the version currently running after changing to the next one level higher operating system in the sources file you do apt update once more then apt full-upgrade which now replaces the apt-get dist-upgrade. Of course it is your install you can do it using the old no longer recommended methods if you wish.
#143 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Minor issue after upgrading to excalibur » 2025-09-10 18:46:03
Have you digested the OP's = the_edge123 input correctly?
Oh yeah missed the stable part I only seen the code name and was focused on the "upgrading to excalibur" in the title. My point remains correct for any version you are running the base-files package sets the value in the files that tell you what you are running.
#144 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Minor issue after upgrading to excalibur » 2025-09-10 10:58:33
Does it have to be manually updated ?
It is possible you need to change it manually I did nothing and got it correctly done. The base-files package is responsible for that setting.
zeus@lenovo:~/Downloads$ apt policy base-files
base-files:
Installed: 13.8+deb13u1devuan1
Candidate: 13.8+deb13u1devuan1
Version table:
*** 13.8+deb13u1devuan1 500
500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-proposed-updates/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
13.8devuan1 500
500 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packageszeus@lenovo:~/Downloads$ apt-file list base-files
base-files: /bin
base-files: /etc/debian_version
base-files: /etc/dpkg/origins/debian
base-files: /etc/host.conf
base-files: /etc/issue
base-files: /etc/issue.net
base-files: /etc/os-release
base-files: /etc/update-motd.d/10-uname
snip....root@lenovo:~# cat /etc/devuan_version
excalibur
root@lenovo:~# cat /etc/debian_version
13.1
root@lenovo:~# cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur)"
NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="6"
VERSION="6 (excalibur)"
VERSION_CODENAME="excalibur"
ID=devuan
ID_LIKE=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.devuan.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://devuan.org/os/community"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.devuan.org/"My sources file.
root@lenovo:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources
# Devuan 6 excalibur
## The new style method of using repositories to install software.
## This /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources is new style and location file
## The /etc/apt/old.style.sources.list contains the same as this.
## https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntus-repository-configuration-ubuntu-sources-have-moved-to-etc-apt-sources-list-d-ubuntu-sources
## Normal excalibur sources
Types: deb
#URIs: http://ca.deb.devuan.org/merged
URIs: http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged
Suites: excalibur excalibur-backports excalibur-proposed-updates excalibur-updates
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64
## excalibur security sources
Types: deb
#URIs: http://ca.deb.devuan.org/merged
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged
Suites: excalibur-security
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64#145 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] OpenRC Woes » 2025-09-06 19:06:33
I'm honestly terrified of installing a new system. This is the culmination of six years of tinkering and bodging, and so many little things have been adjusted that I've forgotten what exactly I did to make it all happen.
In future I would recommend an install log. Every system I install I do this it is a text file where I document every change made to the system, the reason for the change and if relevant the URLs of the web page(s) where I found the solution. This method has saved many a headache in trying to figure out the changes. I also use a ## Changed by me comment section in every configuration file changed where it was changed with a similar explanation block used for the change as goes in the install log. This makes it an easy grep to find any file I have made changes to.
#146 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Question about using Nouveau for Nvidia graphics » 2025-09-04 19:45:51
Solved on IRC.
And the solution was?
#147 Re: Documentation » HOW TO: Install XLibre on Devuan » 2025-08-31 22:14:23
over waiting for it to be added onto either debian
You must have missed the direction the Debian project moves to, they are fully in control of the corporate parasites and their sympathizers working to kill all of this old tested code for the new shinny. That is fully part of the corporate control of linux agenda they have and are most likely set to kill off X and any variants as you see start to happen with the Wayland only releases starting to appear from them. There is a snowballs chance in hell of any new variant of the X server appearing in Debian.
#148 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Should the live desktop auto start RAID arrays? » 2025-08-27 10:42:33
I did NOT try blacklisting the md modules, since I had no idea how to blacklist a module. That's on my list of things to investigate.
Simply create file in the /etc/modprobe.d/ with the module to be blacklisted and now I see/think about it, should the politically correct police have had that term changed to not be offensive in their minds....
An example of the system doing it.
root@9600k:~# cat /etc/modprobe.d/intel-microcode-blacklist.conf
# The microcode module attempts to apply a microcode update when
# it autoloads. This is not always safe, so we block it by default.
blacklist microcode#149 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Devuan Thunderbird Release Channel v142? » 2025-08-24 23:42:42
I've spent the past few months, on and off, trying to figure out how to change my up-to-date Daedelus computer from Thunderbird esr version (currently 128.14.0esr (64-bit) to the current (142?) Release Channel version.
You can get the stand alone .tar.xz version at the link below in whatever language you desire. It is fully self-contained and should just run on your system I would think.
https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla. … ux-x86_64/
Backup before trying it once you have downloaded and extracted the compressed file. Do at least the .thunderbird directory in your home making sure to have shutdown the current version if it is running to avoid a locked error from running instance when starting the new. Personally I am so paranoid of my machines I would do full backup and test on the backup instance. I have used this method for years and years with both this and firefox though for the email I switched to the betterbird for it, they just work.
#150 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] No audio on Excalibur through pipewire on KDE wayland » 2025-08-20 22:39:10
I'm curious, why do you 'exec' when you are also '&' backgrounding ?
No clue I just adapted what was in the .xsessionrc file to a script for bash. It works and I was not interested trying any other way, I rather like sound it is the reason I switched to Linux when windows messed up my sound card well over twenty-six years ago now.
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