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#1451 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-16 18:09:53

@ JSM . . .

Thank you for contributing a quasi-technical post.

How noble of you to keep private private but not so noble of you to use it as an opportunity to denigrate events experienced in space and time as "opinion". I doubt you would equate the apple falling on Newton's head as "opinion". But your manipulations don't fly here. Everyone can see them (if anyone is still reading this useless thread).

The motivations that drive actions are even more important than the actions themselves. That you would consider that I could pen "Open Letter to the Linux World" says more about you than me because I would never use such language, make those grammatical errors or participate in such a subterfuge to the Linux community.

Finally there is a difference between license and freedom. License implies permission to follow whatever whim enters the mind. This is what children do. True freedom is quite different.  It is the ability to understand the motivations preceding an action and to choose to act in a way that is beneficial to oneself and others.  It requires self-examination and self-control. Sadly, many adults never acquire that skill which is the main reason our species is so self-destructive.  It will, in the end, be our undoing.

HND

#1452 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » keyboard behavior changed - why and how to fix it » 2021-06-14 16:47:58

Thanks Altoid.  A BIOS issue is never good news.  It had crossed my mind but the sheer terror of having to flash a board dismissed the possibility.  For now, I'm going to live with it on the old board.  If it is also a problem on the newer board I will reassess my options.

#1453 Re: Off-topic » The open source crisis? » 2021-06-14 00:38:42

You are like a 6 year old child pushing limits.  And then when the hammer drops you whine and think you are a victim.  My advice would be to just stop arguing.  It serves no purpose but to illustrate your willfulness and depth of misunderstanding.  You are very clever at twisting things to support your ideology but please don't embarrass yourself further because you really have no idea what you are talking about.

Here . . . I'll stop it for you . . .

#1454 Desktop and Multimedia » keyboard behavior changed - why and how to fix it » 2021-06-13 20:59:01

golinux
Replies: 3

I am finally starting to move off of jessie.  (You can pick up your jaw now . . . )

First step was to install ascii 2.1 i386 on my other machine an older gigabyte board and 1TB WD black (that previously contained Ubuntu Hardy LOL!) in an Antec case.  When I start this project I hadn't booted this machine for 800 and some days. I am going  to customize ascii there, then take a snapshot to install on my primary machine.

On both machines, I have always been able to come out of suspend with Ctrl or any other key but now I have to press the power button to wake up the Antec.  That's annoying because it sticks and I have to fiddle with it to get it to work.

I did switch out the keyboard to a generic Logitech USB a month or two ago and it still worked OK with squeeze. It is identical to the keyboard connected to the other computer that works just fine to wake up from suspend.

Am I missing a pkg for this functionality?  Or is it an obscure setting.  I did go through all the Xfce Power Management options.

Before you ask why ascii . . . because I want to spend some time with it before moving on . . .

Thanks,
golinux

#1455 Re: Other Issues » relying on aptitude to keep an OS up to date with security patches » 2021-06-13 19:33:14

AFAIK, security patches come directly from Debian.  Devuan does not touch 99% of Debian packages.

#1456 Re: Off-topic » The open source crisis? » 2021-06-13 19:18:54

@JSM . . . In case you're wondering, the decision was not unilateral.  Feel free to contribute to the technical areas of this forum but please share your "truth" where it is relevant and can be better appreciated.

Your post was in no way a response to what  zapper wrote.
[edit] I was looking at the wrong post.

#1457 Re: Off-topic » The open source crisis? » 2021-06-13 17:15:49

I'm beginning to wish this forum had an ignore option . . .

JSM . . . please take it elsewhere.  This is basically a technical forum with this space to socialize.  Please don't pollute it with the insanity that is invading all corners of the web.  Especially since you are contributing nothing of value to Devuan.

Please familiarize yourself with this forum's (almost) No Code of Conduct

Your inappropriate post has been moved to Admin.

#1458 Re: Other Issues » At the shut down menu screen I choose shut down, but it reboots. » 2021-06-12 00:53:34

Hahaha!  So much for my reading skills.  I'll go stand in a corner now . . .

#1459 Re: Other Issues » At the shut down menu screen I choose shut down, but it reboots. » 2021-06-12 00:28:36

Country Codes are deprecated and don't work properly.  Use http://deb.devuan.org instead.  That should fix it.

#1461 Re: Other Issues » relying on aptitude to keep an OS up to date with security patches » 2021-06-10 19:28:13

Follow upstream updates on Debian.  Here are two that I found with a simple search.  You can join their mailing lists for the ones that suit you:
https://www.debian.org/News/2021/
https://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates

All the updated Debian packages will be pulled in through the Devuan repos.

#1462 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Package: tuned, not working » 2021-06-09 23:29:09

It is in the repos and not on the banned packages list.  So the issue lies elsewhere.  Hopefully someone will have the answer.

#1463 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-09 02:21:37

andyprough wrote:

That's too bad.

Yes and no. It just is what it is.  If that's not OK, you're in trouble . . .

#1464 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-09 02:17:56

OK . . .

FTR . . . I don't have a grudge against Windows users. Neither do I want to rescue them from their own stupidity.  That is a fool's endeavor.

#1465 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-08 14:28:01

JSM wrote:

It's a shame that some here don't want to understand sad .

Exactly.  And never the 'twain shall meet.  Religious zealotry doesn't work very well.  As the old adage says so wisely . . . you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

I've been around Linux for a while.  My first Linux installation (Redhat) was done at a local Linux "installfest" almost 20 years ago. That was years before Fedora or Ubuntu etc..  Sadly, most LUGs have gone the way of the dodo including mine in a city awash in tech.  Times changed and getting people together at a specific time and physical location no longer worked.  Then older members died one after the other. Then the LUG mailing list died in part because there were so many diverse options popping up online.

In all the years since then, not one of my Windows- or Mac-using friends has taken an interest in Linux despite their dissatisfaction with what they were/are using.  And these are well-educated, intelligent, professional people.  The one victory I had was to get a sensitive mail list off of google and on to riseup but it took years before they figured out why it was a good thing to do.

I am old.  I am tired.  The world spins on in its own way.

But hey, everybody needs a hobby so go for it.  Experience is the best if not the only teacher . . .

#1466 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-07 00:04:54

Excellent point Dutch_Master.  Add to that list the International Space Station and scientific research labs around the world and . . .

JSM is lobbying for Linux to coddle the "idiots and droolers" with something named "Linux" but which would in inevitably become "the same opaque, backdoored, user-tracking bullshit that Windows and Mac have become".

FWIW, that website makes me want to puke.  The list of "Corporate Sponsors" says it all . . .

#1467 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-06 18:06:18

@Altoid . . . perhaps "uninformed" would have been a better choice than "stupid".
It seems that jsm has never read Christopher Barry's Open letter to the Linux World. Perhaps he will understand Linux better if he chooses to do so.  Alert . . . not PG 13 . . .

Those who think Linux should cater to idiots and droolers should go back to their Macs and Windoze boxen, and stop trying to 'fix' Linux. It wasn't fucking broken!

#1468 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-06 01:27:15

@Altoid (and others) . . . Censorship is a slippery slope.  This post may be stupid and irrelevant but until the OP figures that out and kindly marks it as "solved", just try to ignore it.  FWIW . . . I find it a bit embarrassing also.  Devuan is better than this . . .

#1469 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-04 17:55:59

Freedom is a double edged sword so actions should be chosen with care.

#1470 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-04 15:35:15

Dutch_Master wrote:

This is the Devuan forum, not Reddit. Just FYI.

+1

#1471 Re: Documentation » [Success Story] Installing Devuan 3.1 (Beowulf) » 2021-06-04 04:45:04

Welcome to the forum starbreaker!  Just one quick note about sources.list designations in Devuan.  Since we are not always in sync with Debian releases, it is safer to use Codenames rather than Suite names.  I not sure that "unstable" is filtered for banned packages so ceres might be safer.  It's all explained on this page.

Nice to see that you're using gemini and your sig is oh, so true.

#1472 Packaging for Devuan » The Basics of Devuan Package Maintenance » 2021-05-31 03:45:21

golinux
Replies: 0

Welcome to those who have expressed an interest in packaging for Devuan!  Below are a few links that will help to get you oriented.

Contributing to Devuan should answer basic questions you might have.

The Devuan Packaging Guide provides an overview of the packaging process.

The following statement from the above document clarifies our policy regarding systemd unit files and/or libsystemd0:

. . . the current policy is not to fork a package only to remove systemd unit files and/or libsystemd0 dependencies. Further details on this and the rationale behind it can be found in this forum post by KatolaZ.

Please contribute your questions/proposals to this forum.  Also join us on the #devuan-dev channel at irc.libera.chat and subscribe to the Devuan Developers list.

#1473 Re: Off-topic » Devuan Swag » 2021-05-25 16:35:31

peteswickedale wrote:

Is this spreadshirt site officially approved by Devuan? Do you get part of the profits?

https://shop.spreadshirt.net/devuan/

I don't know about any financial reimbursement to Devuan but there is a "Devuan Merchandise" link to that site on https://www.devuan.org/os/explore in the "Community" links.  There were plenty of these shirts at the Devuan Conference in 2019.

#1474 Re: Off-topic » Do you know jOS? » 2021-05-22 01:46:24

That gives me a headache to think about.  Communication of information is not as important as understanding incoming sensory data and our responses to it.  Those responses define who we become so best understand how those reactive patterns impact our lives and others for better or worse.  Life is about being a better human not processing complex external data.  That's just a distracting head trip.

#1475 Re: Off-topic » Do you know jOS? » 2021-05-21 20:53:03

Seems like a snake oil scam to me.

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