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Ahh I see, it's not a conventional icon setup, some crazy svg stuff, looks like you need to run some script to generate more icon sizes, and all I see in the thing is an "apps" group of icons, no system icons of any kind.
Pass.
Sorry I couldn't help, maybe there's a .deb somewhere. Or even better if someone who has them installed would make a quick zip file of the actual icons.
Me I usually delete SVG's with great prejudice, the big ones especially drag menus to a crawl if you let programs use them, Libreoffice is especially bad, Handbrake only has one but it's even worse than the libre icons.
I just deleted more of them this morning in fact, and am about to get rid of the last one infesting my menu.
Deleted a big pile of pointless 512x512 PNG's too, and all the Adwaita 256x256's.
How is midori on Linux these days? It was a core dump factory on OpenBSD last time I tried it, it's not so bad on DragonFly and FreeBSD. Again, it's webkit, but it is (or was) 'lightweight' for a browser based on that layout engine.
It worked surprisingly well for me the last time I tried it, but last I checked it wasn't in the repo anymore for some reason, thanks for reminding me of it, I am going to download the latest version and give it a try again, it might be more apropos for what i'm trying to do with Vuu-do.
I wonder why it's not in the Devuan repo anymore?
Try the netsurf browser
I have. Have tried all the ones in the repo and then some. Netsurf is kinda cool. For me personally I probably use Chromium the most, followed by Palemoon and then my little non-bloated python browser.
My concern is more for what I'm sending out with my little project distro, I want to make it nice, as much functionality as possible but still fast and lightweight.
Seems like I get to choose one of those three criteria and that's it, can't have all 3.
Right-click that file, choose "extract here", next move the extracted icon pack into /usr/share/icons/
That should do it, you can change the ownership to root if you want.
Icons are easy like that, just drop them in the folder and when you next pull up your preferences editor they should be there.
Palemoon does the same thing if you try to use it to open a pdf too. bummer. I really hate pdf's, but wife uses them so.....
Seems like the only game in town anymore with all the features is Chromium.
New calendar is here to stay, works great!
But in going through and fine-tuning I had a headslapper moment, went to fully test the games and of course Aisleriot (gnome solitaire) wants me to load 50 mb of yelp crap just to display a help file that could be displayed in a text editor or dialog window. This kind of stupid is how bloatware is born. It was bad enough that to play a game of solitaire required about 25 mb of the game and dependencies.
Gone. Ace-of-Penguins works great. Wrote another little yad script so as to avoid multiple menu entries, when you click "Solitaire" it opens up and offers you Klondike, Freecell, or Canfield. That's good enough for onboard solitaire I think. And the help files work.
Total space used for all the games, help, and my script is under 100k.
Next Vuu-do (1.0.5) is looking to drop down below 590 mb methinks (roughly 1.88 gb unpacked/installed), and yet again getting smaller while adding more features.
Finally found found a bug (I think) in Palemoon, it doesn't seem to know what to do with an .mhtml file. Chromium opens them up perfectly, but PM errors, it throws up a sort of "what do you want to do with this file? Open, save? thing, and when you click "open" it doesn't open it, throws up a new tab, and presents you with the same question box again, over and over.
Other than that, Palemoon does a good job, it does lag on opening some, but not as bad as Chromium has gotten and waaaaaaay better than FF.
185 kb to install python-webkit and throw up a tiny fast browser, vs 170 mb of Chromium and over 100 mb of FF, it's ridiculous really, I find myself using the python browser more and more. I'm guessing it wouldn't be too hard to solve the occasional crash caused by video or add some rules that blocks it and JS and such. I had it working great on Youtube for a while, isn't youtube all HTML5 now? Not going to add flash just to see, lol.
185 kb. <---the "massive bloated webkit", lololololol!
Pale Moon is controversial. It's seen by some as a "snake oil" product, because the performance claims generally don't add up. .
Well, acknowledging for the moment that I and my wife are a sample size of just two, and hardware makes a difference, and all the other disclaimers necessary:
Extensive testing on several machines for me has very conclusively shown that Palemoon is faster than Firefox in every way that I have used it, for the most part it's a very dramatic difference.
It's reminds me of Firefox back when Firefox didn't suck completely.
Just wanted to chime in and say rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated.
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Gtksu looks interesting, is there a .deb package anywhere?
What does html support do?
It makes a simple browser, pretty similar to the little python-webkit browser I use sometimes, very basic, but interesting possibilities. But I think it may require more than just the basic webkit stuff, possibly the webkit-dev package or something else i'm missing. Here's the basic code:
yad --html --browser --uri=dev1galaxy.orgWorking on an image viewer today using yad, it's amazing what this badass little dialog program can do.
Is Seamonkey in the repos?
I don't see it in jessie, maybe ascii?
Palemoon isn't either, but the latest .deb from the Palemoon site installs and works perfectly in jessie.
@ fsmithred if you happen to stop by and read this, did you by any chance build that version of yad with html support?
I've got webkit onboard in this partition, but may be wrong packages(s), but anyhoo, yad can throw up a simple webkit browser if compiled with the html support, cool stuff but not working here yet.
Both great Browsers alternative to Mozilla Firefox. I use Pale Moon
+1, my experience with it has been better than recent versions of Firefox by far.
blinkdog wrote:Clean those rational arguments, stow them away in the armory, then come help us build Devuan!
Amen to that.
Thirding that.
I could be wrong, but I don't think it's a bug on your end. I just tried it with Adwaita, and the next month looked the same color. There was a slight difference, but I had to stand on my head, close one eye, hold my breath, and eat saw briars to notice it.
Well I was just getting online now to thank you and fsmithred for checking it because it was a bug on my end, lol.
I had been running my yad experiments in my old beater try-everything-and-never-cleanup partition, but when I tried it in one of the Vuu-do partitions the next month days were properly grayed out, works perfectly now.
I think now it's in the gtkrc, certain themes don't differentiate some of the colors or don't make them contrast enough.
It's possible to inject yad commands with a custom gtkrc, as I start fine-tuning this calendar thing i'll look into that, but again don't want to end up with too much code.
Got the thing working really well last night though, this will definitely be the calendar in future vuu-do's. Here's the command now:
yad --calendar --undecorated --button=gtk-close:0 --skip-taskbar --borders=5 --posx=-1 --posy=-1 --width=300 --on-topThis drops a calendar in the bottom right corner and unlike gsimplecal it's absolute positioning (as opposed to opening wherever the mouse is). It doesn't have the usual top with controls (min/max/close), instead it just has a "close" button at the bottom.
This works good because you have to close the calendar before you can click the clock again (prevents multiple instances), this allows me to use one line of code in the tint2 clock command as opposed to having to make a separate script + an on/off switch.
D1G now 400 strong! woo-hoo!
Kind of amazing....quite the rewarding year+ now that i've been using Devuan, and it all started from slow boot times and various repeated glitches in Debian jessie, I had literally zero experience with init systems prior to that, mainly because it had never been the source of problems for me (because I had never used systemd).
The change may have been one of the more dramatic i've seen, I tried the Devuan beta and all my issues went away and my machine booted fast again, I was instantly a fan and Devuan is on all my machines now.
Thanks VUA's, getting to be that time of year again when we do all our donations, and Devuan tops the list this year. ![]()
A good example of what I mean about narrowing down packages and code:
I have 3 extensions in my Mate file manager Caja: Open terminal here (arbitrary locations), resize/rotate images, and a GKSU extension to let me open folders and files as root. With the common files it adds up to over 900,000 bytes, and in gnome-fashion (which I foolishly expected Mate to move away from) it uses binary files where a simple script would have sufficed, the binaries are ZERO percent faster to do their job than my scripts, and bonus: I can't even look at them.
In Vuu-do Openbox, all seven extensions and the scripts that do the resize and rotate functions add up to 3600 bytes.
And all are 100% editable by the user with a simple text-editor.
It's really ridiculous, especially the caja-open-terminal package at 86,000 bytes (plus requiring the common files packages at 629,000 bytes). Just to open a terminal where you're at in the file manager. This kind of nonsense is why I don't take Mate seriously anymore.
And last thought before I go: This kind of stuff is why I say there is PLENTY of work that needs to be done in the stable branch, I have more than enough to keep me busy.
Sometimes I think some folks who write code for Linux would better serve the community by slowing down and actually dotting the I's and crossing the T's and making things work well, as opposed to constantly dumping projects that are half-assed and moving on to half-ass some new code that will also never get fixed (the gnome model of doing things).
greenjeans wrote:Using that command I mentioned, I get a calendar that looks like Mate calendar or gsimplecal in every respect, except it doesn't gray out the next months days at the bottom of the calendar.
The next month is grayed out with that command for me greenjeans. Could it just be the Theme that you're using on your system? I tried it with a few different themes, and they all grayed out the next month...but some were less gray than others depending on the theme.
Ahh, so I have a bug (of sorts), thanks for checking that for me, guess I need to figure out why, didn't even think of the theme being a possible conflict....
But y'all see what I mean about how simple the calendar could be? Trying to narrow down the amount of overall packages in the system, and since yad is already onboard it seems to make sense that one line of code using already-onboard software is mo bettah.
Gsimplecal is a fair amount of code, and it doesn't even fix the yad calendar positioning issue, try it out if you are using gsimplecal : click the clock or whatever you use to activate gsimplecal and then very quickly move your mouse, the calendar is actually set to open where your mouse is.
Am also considering figuring out how to make a nice pic display program using just imagemagick since it's onboard for other things, the basic "display" command works but needs other code to provide borders, controls etc.
@greenjeans - not sure what you mean about graying out next months dates. On mine, they are gray, and if you click on one, it changes to that month.
Using that yad command above? Or your regular calendar?
Using that command I mentioned, I get a calendar that looks like Mate calendar or gsimplecal in every respect, except it doesn't gray out the next months days at the bottom of the calendar.
Working on a "Crop Image" extension for pcmanfm next, that should be the last image extension as I only wanted to cover a few of the most common tasks so you don't have to open gimp. But this one may be much tougher to do. Viewnior has a nice crop image option that works exactly like what I want to do, thought about switching to it for image viewer. Mirage is an awesome picture viewer and still works really well in jessie, but no longer developed since 2011.
I wonder if the Mirage dev would let someone else take over since it's been 6 years...it's really a featureful pic viewer and yet still has a small footprint.
Great news, thanks fsmithred and all the other VUA's, we really appreciate all the hard work y'all put into Devuan!
When my Netgear WNDR3800 router running LibreCMC dies, I think I'll just use this script on my old EeePC to repurpose it as a vpn router.
I hope someone out there finds this script as tremendously useful as I do
Yet another awesome use for older hardware, thanks GNUser! I'm snagging your script ![]()
This last week I discovered the joys of Yad and Dash, found out that with the right backend you can use them to do almost anything, good stuff!
Used it to login and am now posting from it . ![]()
*edit* Realized the bank question was a good one, hadn't tried before, but it worked. Https works fine.
Complex sites are slow to load though, all that bling bling trying to load. And occasionally video causes it to crash.
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=642 regarding the browser-scroll to greenjeans posts.
Works on jessie for me after installing python-webkit. Ascii I,m not finding that pkg yet.
Look forward to trying it further on jessie though.
That's the one, I changed the default address to a local file and made a little html "menu" of bookmarks, here's the idea:
<html>
<head>
<title>Home</title>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#000000">
<br><br><br>
<a href="https://start.duckduckgo.com/">DuckDuckGo</a><br><br>
<a href="https://dev1galaxy.org/">Dev1galaxy forum</a><br><br>
</body>
</html>And a .desktop to launch it:
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Vuu-do Browser
Comment=Vuu-do Web Browser
Exec=/home/greenjeans/Vuu-do-browser/vuudo_browser1.py
Type=Application
Icon=web-browser
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;