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#1226 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Desktop locked up .. how to solve?? » 2022-02-04 18:34:31
I have an xkill launcher in my xfce panel. Very helpful for misbehaving browsers 
#1227 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] How do I shutdown » 2022-01-30 20:40:41
There is also this solution from fsmithred:
su was moved from the shadow source package to util-linux, and the behavior changed at that time. To revert to the old behavior (from man su):
echo 'ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes' >> /etc/default/su
#1228 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to choose runit while installing? Which iso provides that? » 2022-01-28 18:20:54
Only the netinstall provides an init choice during installation. The "live" disk just copies pre-configured files of a default install. Then you can change init post-install,
#1229 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to choose runit while installing? Which iso provides that? » 2022-01-28 00:44:55
Look at screenshot #19 in the install guide
#1230 Re: News & Announcements » Daedalus desktop needs some love » 2022-01-27 22:59:46
@aitor . . . there have been a few nibbles. I am hopeful!
#1231 Re: Installation » (Chimaera) Suspend fails over Screenlock not functioning Lenovo T440p » 2022-01-27 18:33:22
Ahoy fredd . . . I can't help with your issue but I can tell you that it's soooooo nice to see you after a very long time. 
Have missed you . . .
#1232 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-21 16:31:58
@Altoid . . . Thing is . . . the task requires a color palette and a descriptive image doesn't provide that. Thanks for the input.
#1233 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-20 16:51:37
. . . Then each release would have a distinct 'seal' so to speak, all seals designed according to a certain defined style. eg: Beowulf the head of the mythical hero, chimaera the head of the mythical beast, an so on.
Just wanted to clarify one thing here as a caution to never make assumptions (which humans all too often do). The chimaera that inspired the "deepsea" theme should have been a clue that it wasn't the chimaera described above. It was the pointy-nosed blue chimaera Hydrolagus trolli. Nice video at the bottom . . .
#1234 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-19 19:23:38
Hello:
golinux wrote:. . . with one caveat. An associated color identity for each release is helpful.
Yes ...
But as helpful as it may be, (in my opinion, ymmv) I think the amount of work involved is a luxury we cannot afford.
I took on that burden because I am an extremely visual person. And yes it is (or was) a labor of love for Devuan to be beautiful (IMO) as well as functional.
There's more than enough for Devuan to do as things stand to just continue existing.
This is also true. Yet in all the bike-shedding that is currently going on, except for aitor, not one comment has come from a Devuan contributor (afaik).
ie: golinux's brave efforts are pointed at something that is excessively burdensome, complex and (again, imo) unnecessary.
Isn't all art ultimately "unnecessary". Yet, it has a purpose. Jaromil understands this. All I know is that my efforts have been appreciated by many Devuan users.
Devuan could, for example, decide on a trademark/specific colour on which we could all vote. (cringes at the prospect ...)
Heaven help us all . . .
Then each release would have a distinct 'seal' so to speak, all seals designed according to a certain defined style.
Yes, the release name could be added to the wallpaper and elsewhere. We have already been mulling over just continuing with Chimaera theming going forward.
eg: Beowulf the head of the mythical hero, chimaera the head of the mythical beast, an so on.
Just text would be sufficient or we will be in perpetual bike-shedding . . .
There would then be only one thing to change: the 'seal' for each release, like the back side of commemorative coins, within certain pre-established design parameters.
Now, if that causes any confusion, you could just add a whole number after/above/below it and use uname -a to get the details.
Just an idea.
Your input is appreciated.
#1235 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-19 16:14:35
Why not just stick to what we have(?).
Exactly . . . with one caveat. An associated color identity for each release is helpful. Recycling them as the official release default is likely to cause confusion.
Why do we need to keep on changing it(?).
As to the layout . . . no need to change it at all.
You could always include the release name in small letters at the bottom right or left of the 'official' background.
(If you wanted it identifying as a new release).
That is one possibility but not really the best solution. In any case . . . I understand all the themes are working in Daedalus. If at some point that changes or if Xfce becomes unworkable, it will be back to square one.
#1236 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-19 03:50:44
I'm not certain where devuan wants to be. If it were me, and it isn't, I'd suggest that devuan operate with offering a single branded DE that is minimalist in nature. Because Devuan is more akin to Debian than anything else that could be xfce.
Isn't that what we've been doing for the last 7 years. All Devuan artwork for Jessie, ASCII, Beowulf and Chimeaera is here. That includes theming for the Xfce desktop.
#1237 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-19 03:31:04
If there's any objective to increase the user base for Devuan then IMO more wallpaper choices should be a priority.
Devuan's objective is to provide Debian without systemd. We are not interested in marketing. Our original intention was to provide a minimal system! If fsmithred hadn't stepped up to do the live isos and I hadn't gone down the rabbit hole with Hellekin and others to put together the theming and logo etc., there would only have been default desktop theming.
#1238 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-18 17:34:40
What should the color scheme be when the Daedalus release arrives?
That is for those who are willing to participate in the the actual work to decide.
#1239 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-18 17:32:28
This is a very specific HELP WANTED post that is going to all sorts of unrelated places.
Can we please try to keep the puppy on the newspaper? I'll split some wandering posts off into a new thread after I wake up.
So who is willing to take on this specific task as described in post #1. Period.
#1240 Re: News & Announcements » Daedalus desktop needs some love » 2022-01-17 17:20:38
Oh aitor! Thank you!! But do you have the time to take on another piece of Devuan? The task is not trivial. I'll post the request to DNG and -dev also. Let's see what happens . . .
#1241 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-14 16:37:26
With all that needs to be done, changing the wallpaper is definitely not on the to TODO list.
#1242 News & Announcements » Daedalus desktop needs some love » 2022-01-13 18:48:42
- golinux
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HELP WANTED! Devuan needs someone to take over the branded theming of the Xfce desktop going forward.
While I can still do colors, integrating them into the templates has become too much for my old brain to navigate.
The many pieces that need to be coordinated are described in this HOW-TO.
I am happy to mentor/collaborate as needed.
So who would like to make the Daedalus desktop beautiful?
golinux
#1243 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Wallpaper browse from ANY folder? » 2022-01-13 04:15:05
In Xfce, I just right click on any image that I want on my desktop in any location and choose the "Set as wallpaper" option.
#1244 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Beowulf to Chimaera recent upgrade.. issues, please help » 2022-01-06 18:21:25
Where are my styles though?
Themes are found in /usr/share/themes/ or locally in you user directory in .themes. All previous Devuan themes are still available in the repos.
#1245 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-01-02 19:58:49
This also dense reading:
In the 70s and early 80s, Sugar Blues and Confessions of a Medical Heretic and others exposed the manipulations that have gotten us to exactly where we are so no surprise to me that we are in this mess.
#1246 Re: Installation » I am shocked: The most official way to install Devuan is TERROR pure! » 2022-01-01 16:57:25
Plenty of different Daedalus ISO's from this page.
I stand corrected. The Devuan elves have been busier than I imagined!
#1247 Re: Installation » I am shocked: The most official way to install Devuan is TERROR pure! » 2021-12-31 23:05:17
Hi
First of all, I wish you fsmithred, as well as all forum user an Happy New Year for 2022! We all need that: Never did our world so much exigences to satisfy not really being easy to satisfy... ALSO BEST WISHES TO ALL!
You too!
But the major problem is not that: if I really understand https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan there is no DVD for devuan daedalus i686 :-) !
How to use that, what is not available?
The full list of Daedalus options is not available because it has not been released yet! It is not "stable" but "testing". That is where bugs are discovered and worked out by Devuan users like you.
#1248 Re: Installation » chimaera update firefox broken/ linux-image not updated » 2021-12-31 18:44:14
Isn't symbiosis great!
#1249 Re: Installation » chimaera update firefox broken/ linux-image not updated » 2021-12-31 18:27:37
Please use code tags when posting terminal output (as I have above), they greatly aid readability.
Your wish is my command! I often edit users posts to do that.
#1250 Re: Off-topic » Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas » 2021-12-30 18:34:29
^ Well it's certainly one of my coping mechanisms, along with trolling. How do you manage?
In a few cryptic words . . . by not following the rabbit down the rabbit hole.
Data impinges on the eye, ear, nose, tongue, physical body and mind. Where we take it from there is a choice. We can either note the event and let it go or follow the rabbit into a Proustian novella of mental spaghetti.
With practice, the reaction to these events swings with less force and stays closer to a place of neutral observation. Like frames in a video the discreet events go by but the mind does not latch on to and follow them down the rabbit hole so over time there is less and less to cope with.
This is a taste of freedom from impulses that bring us so much grief.
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