and that is a non issue, since i use a window manager i already start pulse on .xprofile

! pidof pulseaudio >/dev/null &&
setsid -f pulseaudio --start >/dev/null 2>&1 &

i'm waiting on the pipewire documentation so that i can either add pipewire support to the volume module i have on my bar or write a new one targeting pipewire

as despite the fact that is a redhat project it seems to be better than pulse with the promise of reduced latency and jack integration it means no longer there's a need for messing with the awful pulse loopbacks and instead audiostreams can be managed on a jack patchbay

on a fresh start

i really settled with awesome wm.

btw that is a custom coronavirus tracker module, it's just a simple shell script tho.

There will always be, as long as systemd is the "default" other init systems on debian will be an after tought and the experience will be rough around the edges, also if you need more recent packages than what stable offers then devuan will be the superior option, devuan ceres will have fixes and patches for nosystemd operation faster than debian sid will, so as a result if some update to some package with a dependency on a systemd component breaks nosystemd usage you will be stuck with a brocken package on debian while you wait for the patch to be upstreamed from devuan, meanwhile on devuan ceres the breaking update won't be pushed until the patch works, and you can be sure the patch will hit devuan faster than it will debian.

tl;dr for those of us that do unstable debian makes no sense at all.

the mirror you used may have a corrupted installer image, did you verify the checksum?

if you do a netinstall right before you install the init you can chroot into the new system, there you can install network manager, then after reboot if you went for sysvinit you can install runit, after that you can modify sources.list to point to chimaera or ceres, it is better to do a minimal install (no graphical anything) before upgrading to chimaera or ceres

Thanks, the capacity of easily creating your own iso is one of the very reasons i decided to hop onto devuan from all other non-systemd distros, i even considered void linux for a while

Thanks, any suggestion on creating a live iso with refracra snapshot? As in do i give up on runit or upgrade to chimaera with sysvinit, install and config everything there, create the live iso still in sysvinit an move to runit after?