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#101 Installation » [SOLVED] How to get devuan 3's XFCE appearance into devuan 4? » 2022-12-26 21:11:22

recklessswing
Replies: 10

I liked devuan 3's reddish colors more than this devuan 4. How could I bring those themes and icons back?

#102 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-12-11 19:07:39

Devarch wrote:

You can nano /etc/apt/preferences.d/systemd

Package: systemd
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: -1

Package: *systemd*
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: -1

Package: systemd:i386
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: -1

and than use as many compatible repos as you like. It should be ok. For example I have LMDE chimaera edition))

But if some package from another repo requires systemd as dependency than you are out of luck with this package.

I tried similiar stuff but in the end they failed. Good try though.

#103 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] Installing openmediavault on top of devuan » 2022-12-11 19:06:07

b1t5murf wrote:

I've looked at porting OMV to Devuan a couple times, but the author of OMV has tied the majority of his code directly to systemd behavior.
It will require a fork and a lot of unwinding of hardcoded systemd stuff to get it going.

I think it won't work then. Thanks for info.

#104 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Slim not showing on my main screen, laptop's own screen is broken » 2022-10-30 23:17:16

berni51 wrote:

At first I had to enter name and password blind, then the screen was switched to the corresponding output. Then I enabled in slim.conf the sessionstart_cmd  with the name of an executable script file, where the same xrandr commands are called. Worked fine on my old Thinkpad.

This would probably work, but can't try. Changed to lightdm already. Works already.

#105 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-10-30 20:08:00

For example this was on chroot:

root@pardus:/# apt-get full-upgrade
...
Downloading packages etc.
....
....
Removing: systemd-sysv (247.3-7+deb11u1) ...
dpkg: systemd: some dependency problems blah blah
 plymouth depends on this: systemd (>= 232-8~).
 libpam-systemd:amd64 depends to this: systemd (= 247.3-7+deb11u1).
 libnss-systemd:amd64 depends to this: systemd (= 247.3-7+deb11u1).

Removing: systemd (247.3-7+deb11u1) ...
systemd is the active init system, please switch to another before removing systemd.
dpkg: systemd paketi işlenirken sorun yaşandı (--remove):
 systemd paketi pre-removal betiği kuruldu alt süreci 1 hatalı çıkış kodu ile sona erdi
#means systemd pre removal script is installed but sub process returned error code 1
dpkg: çok fazla hata oldu, işlem durduruluyor
#dpkg: too many errors, stopping the process
İşleme sırasında hatalarla karşılaşıldı:
 systemd
Çok fazla hatayla karşılaşıldığı için işlem yarıda kesildi.
#Because of too many errors the process is halted.
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

#106 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-10-30 19:56:33

There are the commands in the links I posted. It used to work but not anymore. Can't remove systemd. Thus it fails. Even though I try to remove it from a chroot.

#107 Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-10-29 19:33:58

recklessswing
Replies: 11

This is an UNOFFICIAL method, that used to work. But not anymore.
EDIT 1: I also tried direct migrate from debian to devuan, that now also doesn't work because of similiar errors? Which is this:https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/bullseye-to-chimaera

The point is, it's debian but on systemd related packages, it uses devuan repos instead. Rest is debian. But it doesn't work anymore. It says systemd is the init system bla bla, and can't remove it. No matter how you try. Is there a way to override this? Here was a topic I used: https://forum.pardus.org.tr/t/pardusu-nosystemd-hale-getirmek/20676
Don't mind the Turkish, you get the idea I hope. Pardus is another debian based system btw, %100 the same. I tried this with debian before also and it worked. But not anymore it doesn't. At 4. phase it uses live usb and we chroot inside it, and we try to remove systemd. But doesn't work.
Why I do this? Sometimes devuan repos go down for a long time. With this way we use devuan repos only for systemd related packages thus less usage.

#108 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Slim not showing on my main screen, laptop's own screen is broken » 2022-10-29 19:23:33

berni51 wrote:

Probably calling xrandr in your .xsession or .xinitrc may help.

Here my example on an older Thinkpad T410S:

xrandr --output VGA-1 --primary
xrandr --output LVDS-1 --off

But before simply call xrandr without any parameters, to figure out what the names for your outputs is. In above example VGA-1 is the external monitor and LVDS-1 the laptops own screen.

Sadly this didn't work. I want this to work on slim login screen. I assume this .xinitrc is run when login is complete, so it's useless.

#109 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Slim not showing on my main screen, laptop's own screen is broken » 2022-10-29 19:21:48

fsmithred wrote:

If you go into the display setting, you should be able to set the external monitor to be the primary.

Bro you don't get it. I am talking about login screen... Not the display screen after the login screen.

#110 Hardware & System Configuration » Printing and network printing works perfectly » 2022-10-28 22:06:47

recklessswing
Replies: 1

I use a zebra printer on a debian machine, and I used devuan machine to connect and print from it. I did nothing in devuan machine at all. Just setting up printer on debian, then when I open printer-options, there is that printer(given that they are connected to the same network). Then I printed, it worked the first time. I am happy. Although, for few first tries, it shown printing pages too big for it's size. For example I use something like 50*30mm, but libreoffice writer page there is 500*300mm at least. But after a few restarts now it works. Great, we don't depend on systemd for this then smile

#111 Installation » [SOLVED] Slim not showing on my main screen, laptop's own screen is broken » 2022-10-28 21:42:18

recklessswing
Replies: 7

I have a laptop, it's own screen has lightning problems. So I use another monitor. But when logging with slim, it shows the login text on the laptop screen, I can barely see that screen. I want that thing shown on the monitor I plugged.

#112 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] Installing openmediavault on top of devuan » 2022-09-19 22:31:58

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Haven't tried it but their colllectd .deb has a sysvinit script as well as a systemd unit file so it looks promising.

Why don't you experiment in a disposable VM and report back?

Didn't work. It gave this output:

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
openmediavault : Depends: netplan.io but it is not installable
                  Depends: systemd but it is not installable
                  Depends: systemd-sysv but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
bash: omv-confdbadm: command not found
root@somepc:/home/user# rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/openmediavault.list

#113 Off-topic » [SOLVED] Installing openmediavault on top of devuan » 2022-09-09 21:09:15

recklessswing
Replies: 4

Is it possible? It's quite possible to install omv on top of freshly installed debian. Can I do it with devuan?

#114 Off-topic » Ditched pop 22.04 cuz mouse was not working, devuan all the way! » 2022-08-10 17:36:36

recklessswing
Replies: 0

Pop 22.04 has a weird problem, no mouse at all works. Only touchpad. But on devuan 5.18 kernel, everything works. The backports one I mean. I am back with devuan. Does anyone has the same problems with ubuntu 22.04 and derivatives?

#115 Off-topic » Why don't we just fork systemd and remove unneccessary bloat? » 2022-04-15 17:58:41

recklessswing
Replies: 14

Why don't we fork systemd instead? Let's just remove unneccessary parts. Can't we do that? Wouldn't it be better? Or worse?

#116 Off-topic » Is wayland the new systemd ? » 2022-04-15 17:57:41

recklessswing
Replies: 22

Will it be something we hate as much as systemd? Just curious. Sorry if this was asked before. Is it as bad as systemd or worse? By the way, why don't we fork systemd instead? Let's just remove unneccessary parts. Can't we do that?

#117 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] any chances to install nvidia-legacy-340xx on Devuan chimaera? » 2022-04-15 17:53:34

Altoid wrote:

Hello:

deepforest wrote:

thanks for help!

You're welcome.

deepforest wrote:

... is it worth trying to install nvidia-legacy-340xx ...

The 340XX drivers are propiertary/closed source and Debian cannot supply a 340XX package because Nvidia will not update them for newer kernels.

True to their A1-asshole mentality, they will not release the code for the hardware to be used in newer kernels.

What about old amd cards? How do they work then? Like for example, hd 6850. I still use it with 5.10 kernel. I don't think amd still release something for them. Just curious. I also got some x1950, a prehistoric card.

#118 Installation » Installation Turkish character bug, doesn't change keymap at install » 2022-04-15 17:49:06

recklessswing
Replies: 1

Which results in things like, I for one set up a password with ö, although I selected Turkish keymap at start and pressed ö in my keyboard, it still uses English keymap which that, password doesn't wont really have ö in it, instead it has "," which is in place of ö. That is just an example. Probably happens with all non English languages. I think Swedish has ö, Germans have ü. I can pass this because I know English keyboard aswell, so a lucky guess fixed this problem for me.

#119 Installation » Why is only main repo is active in sources.list? » 2022-03-13 23:35:25

recklessswing
Replies: 10

When I installed devuan for the first time, I saw that in sources.list only this repo is enabled:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main 
Other security and updates are there but commented. Why is this? Should I uncomment them?

#120 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to choose runit while installing? Which iso provides that? » 2022-03-12 20:06:47

This SOLVED it.
But on artix the packages were like this, for example openssh has openssh-runit package which triggers it running at boot. It is configured to not work like this in devuan,right?

#121 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] Devuan chimaera is better at gaming than artix on my low end laptop » 2022-03-12 19:58:42

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Have you seen https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Improving_performance? Not sure how much Artix does in respect of optimisation but you might be able to squeeze a bit more from it.

I find Debian & Arch to be almost identical in respect of gaming performance with amdgpu (both are better than Windows) but Debian is "lighter" than Arch generally.

EDIT: I use the cpufreq.default_governor=performance kernel command line parameter, that might help you if you're not bothered by the reduced battery life (only for kernel >5.9). And mitigations=off but don't try that with Intel :-)

https://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_5.9#CPU … cy_scaling

I use gamemode. I think it already does that governor thing isn't it?

#122 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] I installed gnome, now I can't use XFCE » 2022-03-12 19:56:29

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
recklessswing wrote:

I installed gnome with this command: sudo apt install task-gnome-desktop

Check the logs to see if any packages were removed for that operation. I've had both GNOME & Xfce working under Devuan chimaera so it should be possible.

This should re-install the full Xfce desktop:

# apt install task-xfce-desktop

This gave me already installed thing. I did it with this instead:

sudo apt install task-xfce-desktop --reinstall

#123 Installation » [SOLVED] I installed gnome, now I can't use XFCE » 2022-03-10 23:40:05

recklessswing
Replies: 5

I installed gnome with this command: sudo apt install task-gnome-desktop
And chose gdm instead of slim. Now when I choose xfce from the bottom, it stil brings me to gnome wayland. Why? Is XFCE broken now?

#124 Devuan » [SOLVED] Devuan chimaera is better at gaming than artix on my low end laptop » 2022-03-06 21:37:25

recklessswing
Replies: 2

I dual boot with artix. And, devuan stable was both better, and also cooler. Devuan was around 54 C max, whereas artix, 62 C. And FPS was better, and much less stutter either way. The game I used is wow wotlk 3.3.5a, playing on a private server(I play sometimes for nostalgia). I got around 45-50 fps, awesome for this laptop right?

For artix I used the linux-zen kernel, but I use stock kernel in devuan maybe that's why. I will test again with stock arch kernel later.

This is my system info. Pretty potato pc right?

System:
  Host: devuan Kernel: 5.10.0-11-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0
  Distro: Devuan GNU/Linux 4 (chimaera)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: SAMSUNG product: R518 v: N/A
  Mobo: SAMSUNG model: R518 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Phoenix
  v: 03LC.M026.20091116.Jay date: 11/16/2009
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo P7450 bits: 64 type: MCP
  L2 cache: 3 MiB
  Speed: 1595 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1595 2: 1596
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4330/4350/4550] driver: radeon
  v: kernel
  Device-2: Z-Star Micro Namuga 1.3M Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: ati,radeon
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD RV710 (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.10.0-11-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1)
  v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5
Info:
  Processes: 196 Uptime: 36m Memory: 3.81 GiB used: 1.6 GiB (42.0%)

#125 Re: Installation » Samsung n150 netbook fn brightness buttons dont work » 2022-02-01 08:19:03

I forgot to say that I use XFCE.

Linux devuan 5.10.0-11-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.92-1 (2022-01-18) x86_64 GNU/Linux

This is the one I currently use. Although I mostly use xanmod one. It doesn't work there either. Btw, do you think xanmod would really improve this device's performance? It has atom N450 CPU 1.66 ghz.

Btw I found this article in debian wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebia … ung%20N150

They say add that acpi_backlight=vendor line to the grub, which I did. I am not a newbie btw, I did it right smile

Not a big problem for me though. I could live with this.

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