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#101 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-29 21:51:01

Almost off-topic but:

https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … encryption

I guess it is easier for a beginner to havce just a big "/"-partition that contains everything.
But it is also more dangerous.
If something goes wrong after install, the files on /home - dir are also erased along with the others during reinstall.

With a separate /home or  (separate physical volume for) / there is slightly smaller propability of endangering /home.
Although non-existent.

I think there should be instructions about how to set up a backup software.
For example rdiff-backup seems simple, no configuration needed.

#102 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-28 02:03:19

Tried "adduser -aG video $USER" . Didn't help. So reinstall with another install disk is required.

#103 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-03-27 22:09:32

Q:why are the Borg superconductive?
A:resistance is futile

#104 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 22:01:03

https://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/wh … re-x-there okay, so there are some configuration files related to xorg. But they are not all under /etc/X11 . I find that annoying .

#105 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 21:55:16

I'll have to reinstall more packages. Noticed that the "audio control panel"-thing was missing from xfce's "top menu".
Now i cannot turn audio back on. It is disabled by default.

Soon i may start to worry about some kind of butterfly-effect...

#106 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 21:41:26

P.S.
"ls -las  /dev/fb*" says:

0 crw-rw---- 1 root video 29, 0 Mar 28 02:13 /dev/fb0

my normal_user_account doesn't have video in its groups. It's easy to add that group but will there be unintended consequences for that action?

Edit. found this: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/conf … org.77666/ , the group_thing was mentioned. Although there are still some more search results to read.

And /usr/bin/Xorg doesn't have any s-bits in its access rights. Should it?

#107 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 21:36:35

Now i have a kind of working GUI. Again.

Mouse and pad works. Startxfce4 starts but logging out still results in that "gray screen".
I added "vga=794" and "console=tty12"-options into /etc/default/grub and ran update-grun after that.
I have also reinstalled seatd, libseat, xinit, xorg, elogind and some of the xfce4-something-packages.

Most of the "ls -las /dev/tty*" output look like this:

crw--w---- 1 root    tty 

/run/seatd.sock looks like:

0 srwxrwx---  1 root       video         0 Mar 28 02:13 seatd.sock

Besides the outputs of "Xorg -configure" there is 1 instance of xorg.conf , under /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel/
that says:

Section "Device"
	Identifier "Intel"
	Driver "intel"
#	Option "AccelMethod" "uxa"
EndSection

haven't tried it yet.
And "grep EE ~/local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log" says:

.
[   659.660] (EE) [libseat/backend/seatd.c:66] Could not connect to socket /run/seatd.sock: Permission denied
[   659.878] (EE) open /dev/fb0: Permission denied
[   660.844] (II) Initializing extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER

"grep EE ~/local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log" says:

[   739.154] (EE) [libseat/backend/seatd.c:66] Could not connect to socket /run/seatd.sock: Permission denied
[   739.309] (EE) open /dev/fb0: Permission denied
[   739.611] (II) Initializing extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[   752.104] (EE) seatd_libseat device not open (/dev/input/event2)
[   752.104] (EE) seatd_libseat device not open (/dev/input/event0)
[   752.104] (EE) seatd_libseat device not open (/dev/input/event7)
[   752.104] (EE) seatd_libseat device not open (/dev/input/event1)
[   752.105] (EE) seatd_libseat device not open (/dev/input/event3)
[   752.105] (EE) seatd_libseat device not open (/dev/input/event8)
[   752.105] (EE) seatd_libseat device not open (/dev/input/event5)

so there is still some problems with the owners and access rights of dev files. Quite unclear how desktop install or livedvd's install fixed those.

Not sure if i had seatd or libseatd installed before i started "fixing" that "gray screen problem".
I did some googling and in some forum /etc/environment was mentioned. In my system it is empty. Maybe there should be something elogid-related or maybe not.

#108 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2024-03-27 17:35:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msxbcwSucF0 tha album "By Inheritance" by Artillery. I think i heard the song "Khomaniac" on radio like 30 years ago.

#109 Re: Documentation » [HowTo] Install VirtualBox 6.1.36 on DEVUAN 5 » 2024-03-27 17:28:58

I was able to download those libvpx6 and libssl with apt.
Temporarily changed sources.list to point into Chimaera instead of Daedalus.
Then install needed packages.
Copy the .deb - files under /var/cache/apt into a asfer location.
Uninstall those 2 packages.
Change sources.list back.
Install .deb - files with dpkg.

#110 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 16:53:51

I think the o-rights for /dev/tty* were "---" . And the seatd's complaints involved access rights about seatd's socket under /run. Have to confirm that though.

If that's the case with tty dev files then lxdm or lightdm can access those dev files with g- or u- rights.
Not yet sure how this hypothesis can help with solving the problem.

Chmod o+rw /dev/tty* may have side effects.
Would like to consult some x-related man pages in the case they'll help.
Would also like to find out what it is that xorg need that startx can't provide.

#111 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] FAILURE to Initiate Xorg or startx and therefore no GUI for my new ins » 2024-03-27 16:35:27

I am not advocating for avoiding startx. Previously that command used to work with older hardware. But with my new laptop it just doesn't seem to work "out of the box".

As i mentioned in another topic, i saw some errors about /dev/tty$some_number and libseatd also. In xorg's log.
Today i'll try to a) reinstall seatd-related packages and b) those grub parameters. If those will help.

#112 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 02:42:46

Ok, "xorg needs something that is not available" could explain why plain startx or startxfce won't work.
But how do i make those commands work? What it is that is needed?

Also it is annoying that GUI is put into init 2. In the Good Old Times X started in init 3 or init 5 .
That way, if there's problems with X, you could make init 2 the default and log into text mode.

#113 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2024-03-27 02:39:57

Currently reading short story "Hail and Farewell" by Ray Bradbury.
Not in the mood for that kind of stuff this week.
I heard about something called "House of whispers" which has something to do with Neil Gaiman. That seems more intresting. Maybe some day.

#114 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 02:25:05

The obvious solution, of course, is to reinstall Daedalus, this time with desktop version instead of netinstall.
Considering the partition scheme i currently have, netinstall is not absolutely necessary and on the other hand maybe desktop install disk knows how to set up xorg properly.

The amount of automagick in these current distros is annoying... when there is problems there's also no config files to be found.

Edit. maybe find /usr -name 'xorg*' helps. Didn't find xorg.conf under /etc last night.

#115 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 02:20:55

GlennW, any ideas concerning seatd and tty:s ?
I would like to have a working xorg/xfce/lxdm again. There may be some things i would like to do this week.

#116 Re: Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-27 02:18:00

Tried to remove xorg/xorg/lxd* - related packages and reinstall some of them. Now i have kind of broken my system. LUckily chimaera livedvd still works.

Before that i went into text mode again.
Run "Xorg -configure" .
And then tried to start X with the configfile which the previous command provided.
X refused to start.
I saw some complaints about seatd in the log (Xorg.0.lod under my home_dir).

In some log file there were also complaints about /dev/tty$SOMETHING - files.

So seatd/libseatd/access rights of /dev/tty* are the suspects now.

Btw. i'm using Daedalus now instead of Chimaera.

#118 Installation » Fujitsu U728+lightdm+xfce , results in "gray screen" after logging out » 2024-03-26 20:46:54

nahkhiirmees
Replies: 52

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=49159#p49159 is related to this message

The problem wasn't lacking pm-util. I know now that much.
Disabled lightdm with sysv-rc-conf .
Rebooted (maybe not that necessary but anyways) .
Logged in as normal user.
Tried startx and startxfce4 .
Found out that Fujitsu's pad was not working. Ditto for usb-mouse.
Last year i had similar kind of problem but i thought that it was just /tmp -related problem. Or that my scripts broke something. Maybe that's not the whole story.

Had to shut down with powerbutton because ctrl+alt+backspace didn't do anything. Nor ctrl+alt+del.

Fujitsu had problems with obeying ctrl+alt+F-keys before, i think.

Now i have removed lightdm and replaced it with lxdm. Soon i will try exiting from xfce and see what happens.
Looks like when i have logged in from lxdm , i can use "ctr+alt+f"-keys.

And after that i'll try to disable lxdm and run startx or startxfce4 as normal_user.

#119 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-26 18:38:45

Today i realized that netinstall's sofware won't necessarily "see" Fuhitsu's motherboard from within the vm. It's rater that PIIX4 or ICH9.
So that may have some effect on whether or not there will be bootable ESP-partition inside that vm.

#120 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fujitsu Lifebook U728 + Devuan 4 » 2024-03-26 18:34:35

I have used update-iniramfs and mkinitramfs before. Not sure that init{ramfs,rd} have something to do with that freezing problem.
But i'll return to that signing/verifying-subject soon.

It will be highly practical if it is only vmlinuz that needs to be signed (or verified during boot process).
On the other hand maybe initrd should be signed also.

Edit. question: can i brick my machine by experimenting with mokutil?
I think that PK and KEK should be left alone even if they can be changed.

#121 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fujitsu Lifebook U728 + Devuan 4 » 2024-03-26 18:27:17

From ~/.xession-errors if found rows with: "failed to execute child process /usr/bin/pm-is-supported" . So maybe there are package or 2 missing. Have to find which.

Edit. I have already tried ctr+alt+del, ctrl+alt+backspace. Didn't seem to do anything. Maybe i'll try again but somewhat i doubt that they help.

#122 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fujitsu Lifebook U728 + Devuan 4 » 2024-03-25 23:38:07

Fujitsu is now mostly working as supposed to. I have lightdm as display manager and xfce4 as desktop software. With those there's a small problem.
If i exit from xfce with "log out" , the display goes dark gray and nothing happens until i push power button.
On the other hand if i say "sudo /sbin/reboot" as normal user, the display also goes dark gray but the machine still reboots after some waiting.
What's going on?

I think i have read a post about that "hangs while rebooting/logging out"-problem but it takes some effort to find it...

#123 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-25 23:31:31

Also tried to make an EFI (or ESP)partition into that virtual hd. Not sure if i succeeded. I guess making gpt-style partition table was a wrong move.
But i could make a bios partition. Unfortunately couldn't boot that vm from vhd.

#124 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus netinstall partitioning » 2024-03-25 23:28:19

Tried to install Daedalus netinstall on a vm. I have confirmed that i have to re-enter details about "/" -partition after configuring logical volumes. Or i can't get out of that partitioning phase.
Slightly irrational like Spock would say.

#125 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21) » 2024-03-25 23:24:07

There's no .asoundrc  or asound.conf nor alsamixergui in my system. I'll have to install some packages. But anyways, wireplumber was the quick fix.

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