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#1201 Re: Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-19 21:25:58

xinomilo wrote:

. . . and who wants to live forever after all?

Just to clarify . . . long life has never been the focus of my journey since that has no intrinsic value.  All life spans have a temporal limitation so such a quest is pure folly. Value can only be found in how wisely we live. smile A longer life does provide a greater opportunity to figure this out . . .

#1202 Re: Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-19 18:43:22

Head trips give me a headache. I have spent over 40 years allowing the detritus in the mind to fade away.  Why would I want to stuff it with more?  I make decisions intuitively and live on my own terms without regrets or fear of the future and take full responsibility for the consequences.  It works for me and seems to have done so very well. That's all I can say . . .

Well, one more thing . . . Western medicine looks through the wrong end of the kaleidoscope. Period. It can kiss my skinny behind . . . big_smile

#1203 Re: Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-19 18:13:50

@Hoas . . . There is a reference in your first anti-macro post that points to https://aspenjournals.onlinelibrary.WILEY.com.  Did you take note of that name - Wiley? I suspect but do not know for sure that it refers to Harvey Wiley who in the late 19th and early 20th centuries fought for safe food in the US but I strongly suspect it does.

He was an heroic yet tragic figure who stood up to the monopoly industrial food manufacturers that were adding dangerous and deadly chemicals to preserve food. He ran the newly created FDA until money and the political machine had its way and he was hounded out of the government regulatory process.

I find it pretty ironic that this site that would choose to honor someone who fought his entire life for safe, unadulterated food would publish a paper denigrating macrobiotics which promotes just that . . .

HND smile

edit: Ha! We both landed in the same place at the same time . . .

#1204 Re: Installation » Gdebi would not install packages in graphical installer mode? » 2022-02-19 17:07:12

What does firefox have to do with installing packages? Shouldn't packages be downloaded first and then installed separately? I'm probably missing something obvious . . .

#1205 Re: Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-19 16:07:42

Hoas . . . Wake up! There is no "data" that does not have confirmation bias because humans collect and interpret it.  Humans are quite selfish, deluded and unreliable creatures. Data is most often used as a weapon to manipulate and control populations to create fear (mostly of death) but also to increase desire. It is pure marketing genius.  Marshall McLuhan understood this decades ago.  It is a capitalist's wet dream . . .

I just live my life happily and ignore the farce of human stupidity.

#1206 Re: Devuan » Devuan vs. RHEL/CentOS : my experience » 2022-02-19 00:56:21

walterbyrd wrote:

But again, let me emphasize, this is just my experience.

Perhaps if you paid to obtain their "Certification" you would be granted the secret
incantations needed to make it function properly.  LOL!!   roll

#1207 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Where did obmenu go? » 2022-02-18 23:28:41

IIRC MiyoLinux has some nice menus for openbox.  Check in Devuan Derivatives.

#1208 Re: Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-17 16:29:36

@Nili and berni51 . . . Yeah, macro "just works" if it is done properly. I raise a cup of green tea and send well wishes to both of you!  And also to our resident curmudgeon, HoaS . . .

#1209 Re: Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-17 16:14:54

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The evidence is pretty clear in respect of macrobiotic diets: they are not healthy. And remember: the plural of anecdote is not evidence wink

LOL . . . I didn't get that memo.  Of course the US gov doesn't want it's citizens to be healthy.  They want the population to be sick because it is a cash cow for the MIC. I figured that out in the 70s and choose a different path that has served me well.

Been doing somewhat modified macro for over 40 years. There have been a few bumps in the road but I'm gonna be 80 this year, take no pharma or even OTC and have no chronic conditions so I must be doing something right. I opted out of Medicare because I only see a doctor friend for blood testing every couple of years and all the boxes check OK when I do.  If something comes up and I can't heal myself, I call my acupuncturist/herbalist for advice.  Works for me . . .

I prefer my anecdote to the misery that I see around me, thank you.  big_smile

#1210 Re: Other Issues » Changes to the network manager after upgrading to Chimaera » 2022-02-17 01:06:47

Always read the Release Notes and you won't get caught like that again.  That issue was listed in the Index right at the top of that document.  So yeah, it was noted by Devuan . . .

Hope things go better now that you've got that sorted . . .  smile

Edit: I have suggested that a link to the Release Notes be added to the top of that install guide on the website.  Good that you caught that. Thanks.

#1211 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED-BAD RAM] Browser crashes on Devuan 3 and 4,... » 2022-02-14 19:00:46

I once replaced 4 memory sticks. They failed.  I played with it a bit but eventually took it to my local hardware guy.  It took several attempts for him to figure out that they only worked in one specific configuration.  Go figure . . .

#1212 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Login screen appear after 4 min after setting nftable rules. » 2022-02-14 18:55:49

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

We don't need no stinkin' display manager...

There is comfort and beauty (sometimes) in a display manager.  big_smile Art matters . . .

#1213 Re: Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-14 07:58:55

xinomilo wrote:
golinux wrote:

p.s. in case anyone wonders, picture is from "Seitan Limania" beach.

I am a bit confused  how this Japanese delight got to Greece. But then, I'm confused about a lot of things . . . LOL!

When I wrote that, I was just playing around.  I knew that connection wasn't the right one but was too lazy to do the legwork to sort it.

xinomilo wrote:

"Seitan Limania" is a name of turkish origin, but meaning and pronunciation will be a lot easier with a small rewrite  : "Satan Limania".
freely translate's to "satan's harbours". (name probably had something to do with the strong sea currents in the area.... )
so, even though the island is in between 3 continents, and was a major commercial point once, this name (or any other in Crete afaik) had nothing to do with Japan... smile

Thanks. Now there's the canonical answer!  Makes perfect sense.

xinomilo wrote:

@hoas , each place has it's pros and cons. smile

It's not where you are. It is who you are that matters. wink Though some environments are definitely more pleasant than others, it is no guarantee of happiness.

xinomilo wrote:

and it goes without saying: if you're ever around, drop me an email.

I would be honored. But rest easy . . . no vax = no air travel. So unless something changes, I'm grounded for the remainder of my years.  smile

#1214 Re: Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-13 20:01:41

Thanks Nili. Interesting connection that answers my question (which likely has nothing to do with the name of that beautiful cove).

I discovered macrobiotics in the 70s and it turned my dietary trajectory on its head! That decision has served me well. I used to make seitan, amazake and other labor intensive (and messy) delights but now I'm too old to go through all that and just cook quite simply.  Nothing like a nishime or a cup of ume-sho-kuzu with ginger  to cure about anything

I wouldn't know how to cook without many Japanese staples in my kitchen: shoyou, miso, all umeboshi variants - whole, paste or vinegar, takuan pickles, kuzu, gomashio, kombu, hato mugi, udon, sencha green tea etc.. There are several distributors in the US that import (mostly) organic varieties of these wonderful foods.  Unfortunately, many of them are now in California harbors waiting to be unloaded.  I'm ready to pounce when they are available again . . .

I wish we could share a cup of green tea!

#1215 Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-12 22:46:53

golinux
Replies: 56

[A very off-topic  response]

xinomilo wrote:

not really into appearance/theme stuff, but mentioning the island where i live, caught my eye smile

Lucky you!  In the 70s I spent 2 summers sailing with a friend from Guernsey to France across the Bay of Biscay to Spain, Portugal, then Tangier, though the Straits of Gibraltar, more Spain and finally Ibiza.  We really wanted to make it all the way to Greece but chatter about pirates from N. Africa targeting Westerners dampened our resolve to actually do it.  LOL!  Sad that I never was able to fulfill that pipe dream . . .

xinomilo wrote:

p.s. in case anyone wonders, picture is from "Seitan Limania" beach.

I am a bit confused  how this Japanese delight got to Greece. But then, I'm confused about a lot of things . . . LOL!

#1216 Devuan » Meet the Daedalus sapphire theme » 2022-02-12 00:52:34

golinux
Replies: 24

Here's a sneak peek of the Daedalus "sapphire" theme. It's presented on black because the light background of the forum kills the intense blue which has a "glow" on the desktop:
sapphire background

This theme was inspired by the jewel-like waters of the Mediterranean sea where Daedalus was born on the island of Crete:
sapphire background

Note that a 1080p specific background option will be available for Daedalus thanks to Lars Noodén!

More to come . . .  smile

#1217 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED-PENDING] First time r-e-i-s-u-b didn't work » 2022-02-09 17:38:37

That needed to be done long before Devuan existed.  That doesn't mean that it wasn't intentional but  not for reasons you might be imagining . . .  I can't explain why it was working on previous releases without enabling it.

#1220 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED-PENDING] First time r-e-i-s-u-b didn't work » 2022-02-09 03:07:23

Many years ago, I was advised to type those letters s-l-o-w-l-y or it wouldn't work.  Seems it needs time to do stuff along the way. This may or may not be true.  I also remember that something has to be allowed for it to work.  I think it has worked for me  but also seem to remember it failing at other times.  Maybe I'm just confused . . . LOL!

#1221 Re: Devuan » Devuan Conference 2 » 2022-02-08 19:16:30

Hey Plentyn!  Nice to see you!! Jaromil has mentioned another conference recently but I think that the core in AMS has scatted due to COVID.  I know I won't be able to come again.  No vax = no air travel.

#1222 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Error with apt update » 2022-02-08 07:37:23

SpongeBOB wrote:

Hi everyone,

I installed Devuan (devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso) I need to run few apt install
any ideas ?

It looks like there is a typo.  It should be chimaera not chimera.

Also . . . would be nice if you could actually post the code using the code tags rather than posting off-site images.

Thanks.

And looks like you might have a clock issue and need to comment  the CDROM line in sources.list

#1223 Re: Other Issues » Weird option in Chromium settings » 2022-02-07 17:19:40

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Not if you're already bothering to disable the Analytics javascript in every site you visit.

I thought uBlock Origin did that  automatically. Maybe I'm missing something . . .

#1224 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Desktop locked up .. how to solve?? » 2022-02-05 06:12:37

Here's the old gnome xkill icon xkill It has disappeared from the search engines but I have been keeping it alive for a very long time in my icon collection.  Enjoy!

#1225 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Desktop locked up .. how to solve?? » 2022-02-05 02:48:22

jpark wrote:
golinux wrote:

I have an xkill launcher in my xfce panel.  Very helpful for misbehaving browsers big_smile

Will xkill kill the panel / taskbar if you click on that ? 

Not sure if I wanted to try because not sure how to get it back if it does.. lol

In my experience, it won't destroy the panel even if you do accidentally click it! At least on jessie and earlier because I have accidentally clicked outside the intended target a few times.  It does kill the browser when you click and on restart, the session has been saved and I am able to get right back to work.  I just tested FF on a chimaera VM and it seems to remember where I left of without saving the session.  IOW, it reloaded the pages automatically.

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