I am running FF on chimaera without pulseaudio thanks to "apulse". That has been available on Devuan for years.  I have NEVER used PA and ALWAYS had FF as one of my browsers.

Apologies to aitor for going OT . . .

I am not really qualified to answer this question but imagine it would require something like:

1. Locate all Devuan keys and expiration dates.
2. Set up auto notifications to developers well in advance of expiration dates.
3. Actually remember to do it (or learn how to do it yourself).

That link is available on the "Explore" page of the Devuan website under the "Community" section.

@fsmithred . . . The OP didn't say whether the upgrade went directly from jessie to beowulf or whether it went through ascii (which I believe is recommended). Would that make a difference?

@aitor . . . it appears so. "hellekin (how)" is a sig he uses. In fact, on the "Team" page of the website his description is:

I have lost track of what he is working on.

There is also KatolaZ' setnet which I understand works quite well too.

Google +1. User privacy 0. This shouldn't come as a surprise . . .

Me either. But I had already seen it posted on irc.

It is a post on twitter from pid_eins

Check out logs for #devuan on our libera irc channel for discussion of the history.

Probably . . . I'm not seeing it in the package list

That being said . . . you might possibly find other systemd files present in Devuan. This post explains why.

Great! Would be very useful for those who are just arriving. All the info is documented *somewhere* but having it in one place would be quite handy!

This is a post-lock addition to hopefully clarify some of the confused assumptions above . . .

Let's start with the first iteration of devuan.org in the current layout that Hellekin and I put together for our first public release of Devuan Jessie 1.0 Beta. Hopefully, it will put the issues brought up above into historical perspective. Have a look here:

http://web.archive.org/web/201606041517 … evuan.org/

At that time I didn't even know what git was! I was entirely concerned with the content, colors and layout of the site. Hellekin dealt with the technical complexities of making it happen. It was quite a partnership! You can see that all the navigation links were dumped on the index page. Also note that dev1fanboy's docs were in a format detached from the website proper and sourced from his git repo. This is the historical reason that remains of dev1fanboy's "wiki" are present in the documentation section. It was not some over-arching structural decision for the www workflow which has ALWAYS been from www BETA to LIVE or MASTER or whatever it was called at the time.

When Hellekin moved on, I took over www and eventually all public-facing web content went through me, even dev1fanboy's and fsmithred's and the docs that rrq and I crafted for the install disk(s). I had a LOT of catching up to do but eventually managed to gain enough git pointy-clicky proficiency to accomplish all the public-facing upgrades to ascii and beowulf documentation as needed.

I also redesigned the site over the years to have a proper nav bar and trimmed content down to the minimal needed. Mostly it consisted of rearranging/compacting/rewriting and eliminating redundancies of information already available. Please do take a tour on web.archive.org to see how the site morphed over the years.

Then I just burned out - partly due to age; partly due to the enormous workload - and Xenguy stepped up to take over www beginning with Chimaera (though I still provided the matching default colors).

I should have thought to write this brief history of www earlier but now that the issue came up, I finally mustered the focus to put things into historical perspective. I do hope that it helps to clarify how we got to where we are.

Any questions? Start a new thread.