Fedora Workstation

Curiosity and the wrong thought about GNOME made me to checkup once again after last time. I have it in use about a month two or three, thought i had created the wrong opinion about Fedora, but really it is a fine OS.

Very fresh about updates and fast about my daily tasks.

I'm glad i have installed this one on my new desktop, I do not know how long i will stick on it, but so far i am satisfied.

picom exists on Devuan testing/sid repo for the moment.
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … ge&q=picom
as it in Debian testing/sid too only.
https://packages.debian.org/search?suit … ords=picom

To have it on Devuan, one must enable testing/sid repo, but (keep in mind these are for test or guts )

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main non-free contrib

From my testing:

root@devuan:/home/user# apt-get install -s picom
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libconfig9 libev4 libxcb-composite0 libxcb-damage0 libxcb-image0 libxcb-randr0 libxcb-render-util0 libxcb-xinerama0
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libconfig9 libev4 libxcb-composite0 libxcb-damage0 libxcb-image0 libxcb-randr0 libxcb-render-util0 libxcb-xinerama0 picom
0 upgraded, 9 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Inst libconfig9 (1.5-0.4 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Inst libev4 (1:4.33-1 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Inst libxcb-composite0 (1.14-3 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Inst libxcb-damage0 (1.14-3 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Inst libxcb-image0 (0.4.0-1+b3 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Inst libxcb-randr0 (1.14-3 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Inst libxcb-render-util0 (0.3.9-1+b1 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Inst libxcb-xinerama0 (1.14-3 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Inst picom (8.2-1 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Conf libconfig9 (1.5-0.4 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Conf libev4 (1:4.33-1 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Conf libxcb-composite0 (1.14-3 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Conf libxcb-damage0 (1.14-3 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Conf libxcb-image0 (0.4.0-1+b3 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Conf libxcb-randr0 (1.14-3 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Conf libxcb-render-util0 (0.3.9-1+b1 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Conf libxcb-xinerama0 (1.14-3 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])
Conf picom (8.2-1 Devuan:4.0.0/testing [amd64])

sid repo...

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged sid main non-free contrib

or, wait until testing becomes stable as it will end on stable sooner or later.

Crossed by dbus, I have no choice but to live with it.

I let it go SpaceFM after 8 years in regular use for Nautilus.

Very nice and pretty minimal dice,

Having a NONE dbus inside me has become an impossible mission nowdays (gtk3/devuan4/elogind/apps), although i did not take it seriously to remove it because i want to have some like transmission, geany etc... that depend on dbus.

...But i had a few questions i wanted to ask you on your early scrots.

Did you compile apps without dbus? or simply use GTK2 alone?

Do you have gtk3 installed without dbus? how about elogind, firefox? how they run without dbus on your system?
Your DeadBeeF i believe it runs GTK2 layout.

Also do you use Xorg as a Root or User?

Forgive me for the extra questions and i hope didn't bother you.

Minor tweaks since last scrot.

About Browser: I have been testing for some time Firefox Nightly. Apart Density Compact (not supported) even though i activated it from about:config without the need for "userchrome.css" I do not like at all that they will remove it as an unwanted/used features when clearly have been seen around peple like and use it.
I have been a regular user of Pale Moon for many years. Temporarily made a small exit i think, i'm not sure how long i'll going without it.
Current Mozilla Firefox (Nightly) i find it modern, very fresh, awesome GTK+3/4 themes support, unlike Australis era when i abandoned the Firefox ship. Now Proton kidnapped me entirely.

About Devuan: Almost a quiet year on testing repo.

 list
# Installed Date 13-08-2020 (stable)
# Upgraded Testing Date 20-08-2020 (chimaera)
# deb cdrom:[Devuan GNU/Linux 3.0 (beowulf) amd64 - netinstall 20200526]/ beowulf contrib main non-free

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main non-free contrib

The last "base-files" upgrade made the change from Devuan GNU/Linux 4 (chimaera/ceres) to Devuan GNU/Linux 4 (chimaera).
Will not be far off when it becomes official stable. While i will be ready for the next Daedalus-testing round.

Apps: URxvt with transparency & shading features

*.transparent:   true
*.shading:        20
*.blurRadius:     40
*.fading:          0

CWM Window manager, i use on BSD, i'll use it for sure on Linux. After have used almost everyWM possible, CWM offers me simply everything i need from a WM. Devs behind this WM are truly genius, typical of BSD charming.
Conky >conky-std (top) as a panel, very easy couple with CWM offers me the chance to have "click-menu-features" once i click the bar, also having mouse wheel switching apps thanks to WM groups. mpv sticked as my default video/audio player.

CLI tmux, ranger, top, alsamixer | GUI SpaceFM.

GTK3 Themes: (thanks to EliverLara)
Nordic https://github.com/EliverLara/Nordic
Kimi https://github.com/EliverLara/Kimi
Sweet https://github.com/EliverLara/Sweet
Ant https://github.com/EliverLara/Ant
snow https://github.com/EliverLara/snow
Kripton https://github.com/EliverLara/Kripton
Juno https://github.com/EliverLara/Juno

Icons: Lucrezia
https://github.com/tsbarnes/Lucrezia

Background/Wallpaper: Edo Mura
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cc0/33229040053/

- Original (5160 × 3870)
https://live.staticflickr.com/2869/3322 … c552_o.jpg
- Large 2048 (2048 × 1536)
https://live.staticflickr.com/2869/3322 … 62b6_k.jpg
- Large 1600 (1600 × 1200)
https://live.staticflickr.com/2869/3322 … c7a6_h.jpg

Excuse me for the extra writing, I had some time available

No fear at all to me, if a blank or no panel desktop provide an "right click menu" or menu features, i go ahead instantly with that WM.
Simple panel an old habit of mine.

That sounds even better regarding minimalism de, the last time i used a DE was very long time on Mint Cinnamon or Fedora GNOME.

WM seems more simpler to me, more manageable and more customizabled, I am aware that it lacks a few components offered by DE, but in both camps there is always hit and miss.

My least 50MB startup efforts.

I do not see anything negative in their installation changes, despite haven't seen it yet. This can even be view as a way to survey what kind of users it will bring on their home. I'm too for the original Arch way of installing the distro, Command line installs miracles

3 month calendar with auto close after 60sec.

x-terminal-emulator -title Calendar -geometry 56x10+720+19 -e sh -c 'ncal -3 && sleep 60'

shuffle playing audio/video with mpv

x-terminal-emulator -title mpv--shuffle-playing... -geometry 170x30+0+19 -e mpv --shuffle /music/folder/directory/

set a desktop background with feh, the same code may be used on a wm config to change the image via keyboard/mouse.

feh --randomize --no-fehbg --bg-scale /image/folder/directory/*

The lowest i did from 2019 - Devuan (jessie) 26MB - Fluxbox, GTK2, kernel 3.16, xorg as a root etc...
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/488 … 4325_o.png
I tinkered a lot Jessie version and used for almost 2 year, and a total of 8 years incl #! Waldorf, BunsenLabs, Debian 8/Devuan 1.
This was my best achievement.
Please, don't ask for fluxbox config because i don't have it anymore.

Currently 70MB - Devuan GNU/Linux 4 (chimaera/ceres) - CWM, GTK3, kernel latest from testing, xorg as a user etc...
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/510 … 53e2_o.png
I can't approximate the 1rst ones due to nature of changes it has undergone Debian/Devuan ~ kernel, GTK GUI and other services or apps from "Jessie to chimaera/ceres 2012-2019". I may reduce to 50MB if i untick some services or change the way of shell or drop sudo, conky, smartctl, but i'm not going to do now.
P.S. If anyone needs A CWM config let me know.

The most unwanted service is dbus, i really don't want it and can't let it go without taking with it many apps i use

[sudo] password for nili: 
root@tokia:/home/nili# apt-get purge dbus
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  adwaita-icon-theme geany-common glib-networking-common glib-networking-services gtk-update-icon-cache libapparmor1 libatk-bridge2.0-0 libatk1.0-0 libatk1.0-data libatkmm-1.6-1v5 libatspi2.0-0
  libcairomm-1.0-1v5 libcolord2 libdbusmenu-glib4 libdbusmenu-gtk3-4 libdconf1 libevent-2.1-7 libffmpegthumbnailer4v5 libglibmm-2.4-1v5 libjson-glib-1.0-0 libjson-glib-1.0-common libminiupnpc17 libnatpmp1
  libpangomm-1.4-1v5 libpcrecpp0v5 libproxy1v5 libsigc++-2.0-0v5 smartmontools spacefm-common transmission-common
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  dbus* dbus-x11* dconf-gsettings-backend* dconf-service* elogind* geany* glib-networking* gsettings-desktop-schemas* gsmartcontrol* libayatana-appindicator3-1* libayatana-ido3-0.4-0*
  libayatana-indicator3-7* libgtk-3-0* libgtk-3-common* libgtkmm-3.0-1v5* libpam-elogind* librest-0.7-0* libsoup-gnome2.4-1* libsoup2.4-1* spacefm-gtk3* transmission-gtk*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 21 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 64.2 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

I may hit Y, i may do replacements of geany >vim, transmission > rtorrent, libgtk-3-* >libgtk-2-*, spacefm >nnn or compiling spacefm without dbus, gsmartcontrol >smartctl and purge that thing. I may do it, but all the GUI(s) from GTK3 apps i want em used, so i'm **** up with Dbus this time and i have no time to mess with it, despite not like it at all, and eating me 10MB from startup due to elogind+others.

I killed (purged) "at-spi2-core" with her two services, so i regained 10MB of DBUS.
I put the below no-at-bridge to .profile of user to ignore her warning, anyway i got complain of at-bridge on root, Im live with that warn down there.

# Fix this warn ---> AT-SPI: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files <--- for GTK3
# Package: at-spi2-core
export NO_AT_BRIDGE=1

Fighting Dbus i find not very easy task to do, i may step back to GTK2 and i know how to kill it once and for all, but I will not go down there anymore. So 70MB for me on chimaera/ceres.

Regards!

By the way, i tinkered Alpine Linux many times with 40MB, have no scrot to prove it. BUT I DID IT!

Edited: I wiped accidentally the scrots while i was cleaning the host-folder, another one from scratch.

nnn+mpv
Devuan+CWM

Thanks I may do it compiling, however there is no drastic change on the latest version, I'm saving it at a more convenient time. I hope we've better support for mouse wheel group/window(s) switching in the future, I was on their IRC channel and talked about a chance to make any adjustments against button 4/5 (mouse wheel). If this is to be achieved then i am all hands ready to compile/test it.

For now, It's ok having version from testing. Personally I like this WM, I do not know how long it will last on me, so far i am satisfied with its simplicity and modesty. BSD style is evident on CWM. Lean and mean.