Hi stopAI, it's not me that declared them buggy : https://lists.debian.org/debian-securit … 00023.html

I'm on the 4th kernel already this year, new one yesterday, and on 1-21 and 1-12. The others had similar warnings.

Haven't had issues myself, but since I put iso's online I feel like it's important for me not to have them up there using kernels with this warning:

But basically the question is rhetorical,  where the bugs are coming from has been in the news lately, i'm suggesting that it might not be the best idea to allow employees of a corrupt multi-billion dollar corporation famous for it's intentionally buggy software contribute to the Linux kernel.

New updates to the 5.03 ob-max-z and also the Vuu-do-mate-mini this week. A mountain of improvement in the mate version, updated to 5.03 with theming, extra firmware, menu entries for the screenshooter and ALSA, fixed EQ bugs and more. Very nice and slick now.

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I'm aware, I was there and I was one of the small derivative hobby projects. I recall the community here being very welcoming to me and others like me, and our tinkering was encouraged.

And that's all i'm really talking about here, tinkering...some people might like to know if they can get rid of useless things just taking up space. I fail to see how talking about it puts Devuan in jeopardy of not being able to lure in the kind of devs needed.

I have read and seen the stuff you're talking about though, yeah some folks go off the deep-end about it, but no need to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Devuan itself was born of people who refused the status quo and chose to tinker with it.

I'm not suggesting Devuan do anything different at all. But even if I was folks shouldn't bristle at the very mention of doing something different.

I just innocently jumped into an interesting topic, and had the temerity to suggest I might take it upon myself to experiment with such, and as a result have seen a lot of name-calling thrown out there, and intimations that people doing or even suggesting these simple thing brings harm to the system somehow.

As a whole, this forum has become quite a bit more uptight and stringent, and less welcoming than it was 8 years ago, that's not a look that's going to attract any new developers IMO. And that's the last i'll say about it. Time for me to take a break from it.

That's kind of what I thought, thank you Ralph for clarification.

A live system of current state-of-system for that week, is the best that I could do.

For sure need to know this. You want a simple live-CD/DVD/USB build of current excalibur and i'll build you one every week until freeze and make it available online. For that kind of build/testing it should include a basic GUI interface, xfce will do although it's not optimum.

I don't think there's anything I can personally do to help you find someone qualified and willing to assume that duty, if there was be assured I would do everything I could to help.

In the meantime it surely doesn't hurt to have a discourse about Devuan and it's components IMO.

It's not that i'm a zealot over systemd, what I am is an experimenter who set out a long time ago to do something about all the cruft that comes with most linux distributions, and just see what it really needed to run, and eliminate things that did not directly benefit the end-user (me). I care absolutely nothing about adoration or kudos or whatever, I enjoy the work and get a good amount of joy every single time I root out some hidden crap that doesn't belong.

It's a fact that smaller systems run faster and with less resource usage. In this day and age of ginormous amounts of storage space, ram and cpu power most people don't seem to care about the bloat though, and that's fine for them. But as for me, I have better uses for storage space.

Each little improvement may not seem like much, but added together over the years of learning what I could and could not get away with, I am able to make my own systems literally half the size or less.

It's just optimization, it's not a crusade. I'm not suggesting Devuan do this.

1-21-2025 maintenance updates of the 5.03 ob-z's, new kernel 6.1.0-30-amd64 ( last week's new kernel didn't last long) + other updates and one addition. More info available, blog and wiki both up now.

I'm not into printing so much, but the wife is, so on her machine the first thing I install is usually system-config-printer and then specific drivers for our printer brand. It really makes configuring a breeze even for someone like me who generally doesn't use a printer.

Definitely stay within the repo unless you need a PPD that just isn't available.

Gparted definitely needs upgrading. It still won't properly recognize that I have two partitions on a liveUSB made with Mintstick and altered with gnome-disk-utility. The file manager (PCmanFM) easily recognizes the new data partition I have made and everything works normally and I am able to store data on the new partition.

@Altoid, THANK YOU!! I'm sorry I don't have a good answer to your problem, but you just helped me solve one of mine that's been bugging me for a few weeks now with this portion of your post:

This is the same problem i've had with Mintstick, it's super-fast and does a nice job in a hurry, but it also creates that ISO9660 fs that takes up the whole stick when in fact the iso is only 1.2 gigs, and i've been wanting a second partition just for data, not persistence, just data so when I rescue files from older PC's I have a place to store them easily.

Installed the gnome-disk-utility you mentioned, and it showed me the installed system was on it's own partition and the rest was literally empty space, just freakin empty space.

In it's menu if offered me the option of creating a new partition using that empty space, I did so and named it "DATA" and it worked perfectly and really fast, posting now from a liveUSB session using that very stick.

So again, big-time thank you and I hope you get your issue worked out!

And yet earlier in this very thread you said we all should have celebrated the solstice.

(We did so at my house