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#676 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-11-29 02:37:52
When is it appropriate to full quote?
Never. Only quote specific parts of a post that is not in the immediate vicinity of your response to refresh peoples' memory . . . [edit] Note that this preference has evolved over the years in response to user behavior.
My reply was intense because a number of people have asked the same of you and your behavior never changes. It is frustrating for many on this forum not just me.
Flamewar? Nope. You are just like a puppy who never learns that the newspaper is on the floor for a purpose and keeps dumping elsewhere . . . Sorry . . . that's the best analogy I could come up with atm. LOLOL!
#677 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-11-28 23:07:11
In any case, a clear set of...
1) low-hanging bugs that someone with 0-6 years experience might be able to handle;
2) packages/scenarios that could benefit from further testing;
3) topics that have missing or incomplete documentation;...would be a helpful addition to post #1 of that thread and/or a dedicated "how to help" page on the website itself.
Are you volunteering to take on that task? 
Resources in addition to this forum include:
bugs.devuan.org
devuan-dev mail list
DNG mail list
IRC channels
It would require frequent updates and by the time published, the bugs would probably be fixed.
It is more important to fix bugs than make lists about fixing bugs imo . . .
Some changes to www and this forum should probably be made to reflect that reality . . .
#678 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-11-28 22:29:12
You not only rant. You insist on full-quoting every post immediately above to which you respond . PLEASE STOP DOING THAT! You have been asked by a number of people to do so yet you persist . . .
Note: Full quote removed!
#679 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-11-28 21:13:06
@zapper . . . You rant and rant on. Week after week. Month after month. Year after year. It gets tiresome . . .
This forum is not you therapy playground.
It would be better to actually DO SOMETHING about it instead of just advancing "the destruction of the planet" by burning bytes in such a useless manner over and over and over . . .
Devuan is drowning in tasks that need attention. A change in focus would be welcome . . .
#680 Re: Installation » First experiences and contact with Daedalus » 2023-11-28 18:58:37
But the theme looks slightly different from the conventional Clearlooks theme. But under icons there is no Sapphire theme.
That is because I reused the "Deep Sea" icon set from Chimaera with the "Sapphire" theme. 
And if there are no more user-defined themes in the future, then all we have left is Clearlooks ;-)
All the previous customized Devuan themes including icons will still be available.
#681 Re: Installation » First experiences and contact with Daedalus » 2023-11-28 15:49:54
All the previous versions always had newer themes and icons after the update. Daedalus has nothing of the sort. Somehow Daedalus doesn't really seem to be finished.
Yes, there is a Daedalus "Sapphire" theme and it is in the repos. It should be the default with an Xfce install. You can also install from the files at https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … t/graphics .
That being said . . . beginning with Excalibur there will no longer be custom theming unless someone steps up to do it. The previous themes will remain in the repos/git until they no longer function properly with gtk3 "advances".
#682 Re: Installation » all the new kernel disturb some old PC's! » 2023-11-28 15:36:11
Can you please stay on topic.
#683 Re: Off-topic » A new challenger has come in » 2023-11-26 21:38:05
Saw you on IRC too. Good place to hang out . . .
#684 Re: Other Issues » Seriously? » 2023-11-26 16:42:53
Just did an update like normal on Excalibur/Ceres on my main desktop . . .
Please note that Excalibur is "testing" while Ceres is "unstable" so breakage is to be expected . . .
Please review Devuan releases.
#685 Re: Other Issues » Devuan’s architectural problems » 2023-11-23 20:06:44
I really don't know what they are talking about . . .
No kidding . . . LOL!
#686 Re: Devuan » Making Devuan widely use » 2023-11-23 16:03:39
@oneofthehorses . . .
You are not the first to suggest a Mint Edition of Devuan. Back in 2018 someone contacted me about doing just what you are proposing but it never materialized . . .
Are you aware that Devuan has a thriving list of "Devuan Derivatives"? Feel free to do your thing and offer it there.
#687 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Upcoming browser changes » 2023-11-22 19:19:01
I really really hope some open source will survive Big Tech and their shiny new clothes.
Their shinny new shackles might be more appropriate . . .
#688 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Upcoming browser changes » 2023-11-22 18:13:06
If Xfce becomes unusable, there are always window managers . . .
#689 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-11-14 02:17:00
The dumbing down of interfaces and infantilisation of users is a trend that needs to stop.
It concentrates power at the top which is the whole point of infantilizing users.
#690 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How to start desktop on Raspberry Pi3? » 2023-11-11 18:30:44
Welcome to the forum, Gnostic!
Have you looked at the README?
Did you download from here?
It can take a while to figure out where things are . . . 
One more question . . . should this be moved to ARM builds where the ARM folks hang out? I may do that later . . .
#691 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Strategies to deal with .xsession-errors » 2023-11-11 04:05:59
@ralph.ronnquist . . . Thanks! That sounds like a good solution for me. You know how pointy-clicky I've gotten in my old age so will likely take me a few days to summon my inner nerd . . . LOL!
#692 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Strategies to deal with .xsession-errors » 2023-11-11 01:52:29
Thanks to both of you!
@Altoid . . . How embarrassing that I didn't even think to search this forum. 
I'll go stand in a corner now . . .
@ralph.ronnquist . . .
1. Can sending ./xsession-errors to /dev/null be undone? There might come a time when it would be needed. I'm assuming yes by just removing those bits described.
2 and 3: Would either or both of those options require any action on my part? Or could they be configured to only save one or two entries? I'm hoping to never have to see that file again!
I can remember when the entries were actually fixable and it was a bit of fun to do so. Complexification is such a bottomless pit . . . LOL!
#693 Desktop and Multimedia » Strategies to deal with .xsession-errors » 2023-11-10 21:22:44
- golinux
- Replies: 25
I don't check .xsession-errors often and when I did a few days ago, it had grown to over 32mb. This is unacceptable. Is it possible to set a size limit or delete every x number of days?
Here are some of the offenders filling it up:
[31798:22:1026/153257.134355:ERROR:webrtc_voice_engine.cc(2678)] Attempting to get contributing sources for SSRC:507546440 which doesn't exist.
This is the worst offender by the tens of thousands. I thought it might be from jitsi but I just connected and there was no error recorded. Maybe it's triggered by incoming data from other users?
Then I poked YouTube. No action on the file.
Maybe incoming data is triggering it?
Then there is this pattern of long lists with different % of whatever . . . A search draws a blank on this one . . .
[K
[KA: 00:00:06 / 00:00:07 (82%)
A: 00:00:06 / 00:00:07 (82%)[K
[KA: 00:00:06 / 00:00:07 (83%)
A: 00:00:06 / 00:00:07 (83%)[K
[KA: 00:00:06 / 00:00:07 (84%)
A: 00:00:06 / 00:00:07 (84%)
Other entries are repeated warnings and errors for GTK*, dbus*, xfce4*, theme parsing, application errors etc. I am surprised it works at all!
Please share your knowledge and favorite remedies . . .
#694 Documentation » Revert recent changes to file viewing options in FF » 2023-11-10 16:51:27
- golinux
- Replies: 3
Recently, FF has changed how to view PDF files from an internet source. Instead of opening in atril as directed and expected, they were actually being permanently downloaded to various locations in my home directory. 
Thanks to DelTomix, there is a way to revert to the previous behavior by altering these 5 files in about:config:
- browser.download.improvements_to_download_panel - set to false
- browser.download.useDownloadDir - set to false
- services.sync.prefs.sync.browser.download.useDownloadDir - set to false (I don't sync)
- browser.download.start_downloads_in_tmp_dir - set to true
- browser.download.alwaysOpenPanel - set to false
Additionally, you might also want to double check the FF Settings options. It seems that FF would prefer that you open those documents in your browser rather than in your local environment and that 'local' option is getting harder to find. Sneaky!
I'll punt to DelTomix to fill in additional details.
#695 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Firefox no sound. » 2023-11-08 21:43:07
/me doesn't often have to block an avatar . . .
#696 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Nightly versions on Devuan » 2023-11-03 20:44:36
That's just asking for frustration and pain . . .
#697 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus on Dell Inspiron fails » 2023-10-31 19:44:51
. . . ensured I included the nonfree-firmware) . . .
If that is a typo, it needs to be corrected. If that is what you actually tried to install, try non-free-firmware instead.
#698 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » no sound on gnuinos » 2023-10-31 15:11:20
@Charin795 . . . done. You could probably have edited the post yourself . . .
#699 Re: Installation » Systemd-boot(it's actually not tied to systemd) possible in devuan? » 2023-10-26 00:35:55
Perhaps this thread will be helpful?
It is not on the banned packages list so we must do something creative to transform it.
#700 Re: Installation » Systemd-boot(it's actually not tied to systemd) possible in devuan? » 2023-10-25 23:39:05
UnixMan1230 . . . What exactly do you mean by "systemd source". Are you talking about files like these?
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