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#526 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-12-26 23:26:30

ExposeGlobalistsMadness wrote:

I second that, on both accounts!  May Gnuinos please offer an ARM64 iso!  ...and HyperbolaBSD is a useful alternative forward although unfortunately it is not Debian-based, but they recognise the drawbacks of Rust in the kernel and other issues - see their 'Philosophy' listing in the left margin!
Genode with its Sculpt OS is another alternative to the loss of privacy, security and licensing use freedom, and  RISC-V is an up-and-coming architecture, already supported by Debian.

Rust is also mega bloated so... I don't think their memory safe security claims are worth trusting. Not to mention their tight grip on the standard will make it impossible for anyone to fix these idiotic bloat problems.

HyperbolaBSD has the potential to be many miles better because it will be based on OpenBSD as a hard fork design.

That's not to say devuan can't make their own.

The more money that flows Hyperbola's way, the more they can accomplish stuff like supporting ARM64 long term. As long as they can get the hardware also ofc. smile

#527 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-12-26 23:21:37

prospero wrote:
zapper wrote:

...my pocket mnt reform. it will be a while till other options... show up.

Why did you buy it then? lol

You can send it to me if you have no use for it. I would be interested in installing Trisquel on it, but my strict moral consciousness forbids me from sending such an amount of money for a blobbed device. Next time, just send the $1000 to me, I could have much better use for it. I would probably send it to aitor to support Gnuinos, at least that would be useful and deserved.

Blobbed device? Perhaps, but I got it because its 7 inch ARM64 modular device.

Its no more blobbed in my opinion then anything else on the market, much less actually.

I don't agree with FSF's standards on what constitutes RYF.

And actually, more specifically, it should be RYP

Respects Your Privacy

Another words, there is no device that respects freedom 100% out there, probably never will be. 95%? Maybe... but microcode always exists in a system to some extent.
It just ain't feasible and people should accept it. RYP however would work.

Disabling the network stack of backdoors? Possible, example intel me from gen 3-12. Not sure about gen 13+

Disabling all non-free aspects replacing with new code? That isn't possible... without breaking the law.

I am not assuming he will support ARM64. It was a request. If it doesn't happen, meh w/e.

I just asked in case he would be open to it.

tongue

Although, its possible Risc-V, Openpower Microwatt and Openpower Libre-Soc will be easier to support in the ultra long term.

No idea tho.

But yeah, basically privacy can be achievable if coreboot like bios and network stack backdoor issues can be disabled.  Otherwise, no.

#528 Re: Devuan Derivatives » JWM KIT love fest » 2023-12-26 23:13:34

Glad to see that the time issue won't reoccur anymore. I am still surprised it snuck through. tongue

#529 Re: Off-topic » How X started .. » 2023-12-26 03:23:55

I honestly wonder if the corporatization of software on linux, isn't the reason why xorg and other older standards are not secure today.

It isn't exactly the corporate motto to have no bloat in operating systems. They go the other direction, microsoft is a perfect example of this.

dbus, systemd, similar nonsensical crap like that, probably has only hurt security for linux.

I sometimes wonder another words, if they are fixing a problem they created themselves.

Hmm...

#530 Re: Off-topic » Nvidia vs nouveau for old card. » 2023-12-26 03:20:07

A good rule of thumb, I have noted for hardware in general, if it doesn't have coreboot on it, older hardware usually is easier to deal with in an open source way.

Although, older hardware is more likely to be corebootable... so there's that.

I did however hear once nvidia is being more reasonable with newer hardware now. I don't know how long that lasted or if that was just pure PR, but I do remember hearing about it.

I still avoid using nvidia due to the bloated electrical usage, but better to use libre than non whenever possible.

#531 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-12-26 02:45:47

Tell me if you support ARM64 in the future. I would love to use this on my pocket mnt reform. it will be a while till other options, HyperbolaBSD for example... show up.

#532 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Upcoming browser changes » 2023-12-26 02:42:45

quickfur wrote:

I keep Chromium around for those few sites that refuse to work without it, which in my case fortunately is only a small handful. (I can live without the rest.)  I used to be a big Opera fan until they sold out and switched to a Chrome engine. .

There are ways to use discourse websites even with using palemoon or other uxp web browsers.

I don't think it won't happen in your life time, unless you are 60+ already.

Might take a few decades but I don't think its impossible. Although, a rising up against corporations is needed first. Its slowly happening due to corporations and their abusing smart device bs. Tethering stuff that doesn't need to be tethered, etc...

#533 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Upcoming browser changes » 2023-12-22 00:39:18

greenjeans wrote:
Micronaut wrote:

* If this does not occur, it may be 'fork time' again. Someone ought to copy the Firefox code base and start a new project to have a browser genuinely free of corporate control.

Is that not what Palemoon has already done? Installed the latest version last night, working better than current Firefox does on my machine.

Agree with the above.

What is probably needed, is more people should contribute to palemoon. Best of all, since the drama dev is gone, palemoon is led by Moonchild only. And he is perfectly sane. Can't say the same for the dev who used to lead with him.

My only qualm and it is a very tiny one, is that dbus is still required to run the web browser as is unless you compile yourself, etc...

Beyond that? Nothing at all.

BTW MASSIVE THING TO MENTION:

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30655

Apparently, he might be having funding issues at the moment. Just a heads up!

#534 Re: ARM Builds » [SOLVED] Video display not working, via rockpro64 » 2023-12-19 16:53:33

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

If you have the disk image you can mount that on som other system and run that update command there. Or even patch the initrd directly (unpack, patch, pack).

Oh, well I don't know how to do this currently... patching initrd directly, etc on another system.

Although, I won't have access till friday or later.

I have not tried any other distro yet though.

#535 Re: ARM Builds » [SOLVED] Video display not working, via rockpro64 » 2023-12-18 20:31:35

I guess then, do I really need that serial console to get video output? And what do I need to make it function properly period.

Thoughts?

I don't have a usb serial console currently as a heads up.

#536 ARM Builds » [SOLVED] Video display not working, via rockpro64 » 2023-12-17 20:30:07

zapper
Replies: 7

I followed the wiki on rockpro64:

https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/ROCKPro64_ … ses#Debian

However this error happens:

https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/ROCKPro64# … _on_Debian

How do I fix this?

I see the guide, but if I can't get a video display, how the frick do I  fix this issue by doing this:

echo governor_simpleondemand >> /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
update-initramfs -u -k $(uname -r)

I mean if I can't even see the display, then how can I even do that.

Answers anyone? Could use them.

#537 Re: Off-topic » Weak processor + minimal DE = no miracle! » 2023-12-12 01:01:59

Lumina Desktop + Acer Aspire with 1GB of ram. 1.66ghz processor.

I haven't done this persay, but I have run mate, lxde and xfce4, so I bet it would work with Lumina too.

It also requires the least bloat to use of the four...

smile

I have run the other three desktop environments on that computer before just to clarify.

Although, this was around the days of debian 7...  but I was using a linux distro with upstart and other ubuntu garbage, so... yeah.

#538 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Upcoming browser changes » 2023-12-12 00:57:07

The-Amnesiac-Philosopher wrote:

Uncle aluma,

I wish you hadn't mentioned the name of the ad-blocker. I use it too.

However, I fear the YouTube Police will find out about it, and send the YouTube Swat Team in to annihilate "said name of ad-blocker".

Shhhhhhh...

smile

Security by obscurity doesn't mean diddily. They will try to annihilate all ad blockers not just that one!

Smh...

#Moronic

#539 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-12-12 00:51:47

mclien wrote:

Three man in a boat had 4 cigarettes but no matches.
How do they manage to smoke?

The threw away one cigarette, making the boat a cigarette lighter.

Very clever... insert smug smile below:

Or troll face smile if you prefer...

tongue

#540 Re: Off-topic » USA Foods » 2023-12-12 00:48:51

“In the name of the Lord,” humanity has killed more people than for other reasons

I agree with the poster that responded to you, but I should also add, people take many things out of context beyond just religion.

Whether something is good or not, is not how its used, its the purpose and intention behind it.

Love is the most important commandment in the bible. However, when they speak of love, its not romantic love purely or conditional love either. It's a goal to be unconditionally love.

Sources? Jesus says that is the most important commandment in the bible.

I had a reality check recently, it seems, the climate might not die in the near future, to the point where humans all die at once at least if I consult the God I claim to serve from the Bible.

This being said, every attempt to do things the easy way, don't rock the boat of the powerful type vibe, will always have consequences.

If people try to prevent rocking the boat, the best thing to do is not to surrender to those type of people, the powerful/rich.

Its better to have to hear their cries and screams then to give them what they want.

#541 Re: Off-topic » USA Foods » 2023-12-03 05:11:09

golinux wrote:

@zapper . . . if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. What have you actually DONE lately to turn the tide besides ranting at forces beyond your control?

I avoid non-organic stuff that much is something I do that is useful on this issue.

I block ads as much as possible also with regard to the data center issue I mention elsewhere.

Ads very often have spyware behind them.

Yes, I do rant too much, I guess I just get frustrated by the stupidity of my fellow human willing to surrender to google and microsoft completely and the foods that are the crappiest, etc...

#542 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-12-03 05:02:13

I watch videos to learn something, not get outraged about how left/right/upside-down the presenter is.
This obsession with putting people in little "political affiliation" boxes and discarding information from outgroups is extremely tiring, and I'll have no part of it.

I mostly get annoyed by him because he uses made up concepts like BASED which means absolutely nothing of value and his stupid pictures that mean nothing of value as well.

But that being said,

I am at least glad to hear he does something of value.

#543 Re: Off-topic » USA Foods » 2023-12-02 23:05:05

Corporations, Corporations, Corporations!

The enemy never seems to change much. I would love some of these clowns to face justice on the same level of all their victims combined.

Let them choke on the crap they have been throwing at the world. Force them to have to enhale all the greenhouse gases, the crappy food and being surveiled so much that no one leaves them alone.  Same with the politicans. 

If they don't face this hell now, they will regret it later. This world's hell is just a taste of what they deserve.

For their sakes, they would be better served facing the flames of their evil now.

I say this for all the rich assholes who make money at the expense of the world using the cheapest most short term moneymakers possible.

Especially when long term moneymakers are likely to exist too.

Its just a greed cycle tho.

They want to feel good about themselves by hoarding money. Just to feed their damn egos...

Aye... madness.

#544 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-12-02 22:52:12

The-Amnesiac-Philosopher wrote:

OFF TOPIC: S
cough cough...Distro Boob...I mean Distro Tube.

cough cough...Chris Titus Toes...I mean Chris Titus Tech.

Et al...

tongue

DISTROBOOB! LOL! That is so awful, but this isn't the joke thread. tongue

Although, that would be more relevant for the dude who has the channels mentaloutlaw and lukesmith on youtube.

If you want to find someone who is trustworthy for linux info, never trust a far right nutcase like him.

big_smile

#545 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-12-02 02:34:30

Now I am curious what REXTON said that was so vile...

very strange.

#546 Re: Off-topic » USA Foods » 2023-12-02 02:32:59

They really need to do two things, make deceptive tactics from mega corporations/corporations illegal and rock the boat so much that those entities can't poison the world with their evil ideals. I have said many times, what I think this throwaway culture, this don't give a crap ideology unless it hurts our bottom line stuff, so I don't think I need to tell you what I think this leads to.

Golinux might have a fit with me if I do.

This being said, I choose organic as much as I can, unless its seafood and then I try to get wild. Not that I don't like venison. wink

Wild meat is usually best, as long as it is inspected properly. smile

#547 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-11-29 20:48:25

A liar, a thief, a crazy psychopath, a nutjob and depraved person go into a bar and the bartender says, "mr former president, how can I help you?

xD

#548 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-11-29 20:46:51

I have a joke!

Who is doctor who?

You answer,

I ask but who is he?

Repeat, repeat, repeat

I say, who are you talking about though?

repeat repeat repeat

You flustered and exasperated

Me snickering at how silly the situation is.

big_smile

#549 Re: Devuan » Devuan without elogind » 2023-11-29 03:01:37

I tried devuan's newest stable, its really a tricky thing to deal with.

I don't recommend switching to it if you expect to use synaptic without problems.

Wayland crap gets in the way preventing sudo synaptic.

Very irritating I must say.

#550 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-11-29 02:56:32

Well you aren't the first person to drive me nuts today, so its forgivable I guess.

Nor are you the worst...

My behaviour mostly didn't change because I hadn't known how to properly.

The mid key highlight was something I was oblivious to/didn't think about. Some places I did, this wasn't one of them. Go figure, my mind has been in a weird place lately.

EDIT: Just as an add, sometimes I have been lost inside or my memory screws itself up. Its only a few years ago, I learned of a tragic issue. And that's about it.

Probably best to get back on topic though, right?

When I brought up that stuff up about systemd and other linux frameworks, I considered it similar problems. Hence me bringing it up.

The worst is dbus though.

Escaping that mess is a hell on linux.

That's why my main distro is making a fork of OpenBSD instead of continuing the dying linux leanness trend.

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