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#476 Re: Packaging for Devuan » expr from coreutils throws an error » 2024-01-20 20:49:34

Peculiar. Try running

$ LD_DEBUG=all expr

which should dump a haystack of goodies from the ELF loader. At a glance the problem appears to be with the ELF loader but I would then have expected it to concern all programs.

The haystack should include lines like

     17051:     checking for version `GLIBC_2.34' in file /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 ...

. Those indicate the particular ABI versions that the program requires. The hope is that there is some clue for the problem towards the end of it.

#477 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] What is your view on major distros dropping X11 and requiring Wayland? » 2024-01-18 20:53:54

It looks to me that the general commercial drive is to make Linux a platform for "Apps", probably so that middlemen can own the distribution channels and siphon  money of both developers and end users. The wayland protocol would form part of that as a way of isolating "Apps" from each other rather than providing the well integrated computing platform that was/is one of the drivers behind X11.

#478 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] How will the deprecation of Debian's i386 affect Devuan? » 2024-01-15 22:29:43

@Fierelier: yes, the Devuan repository is an "on-the-fly merge" of Debian packages that uses the packages directly from Debian repositories (except for the "forked" packages). I.e., Devuan only maintains and builds forked packages, and relies on Debian doing that for the rest.

In essence Devuan is simply a re-indexing of which packages are included and where to download them; forked packages from Devuan and all other packages from Debian. Thus, if Debian stops maintaining and building i386 packages, Devuan will follow.

#479 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] boot log in daedalus » 2024-01-15 22:11:32

bootlogd, if installed, kicks in after the devnodes are set up.

Iif you have another computer, you could set up a netconsole and then capture it there. Possibly with some clever hands-on, you could point that to a localhost console started (as early as possible) by initrd scripting. That would of course only capture from when that console starts.

Any bootloader  (or earlier) output before the kernel is started might require a video camera, possibly even a fast-recording one.

#480 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Can't install linux-image-amd64 » 2024-01-14 13:06:27

Yes, that's due to the infamous "usrmerge" nonsense of Debian... they are in the process of moving stuff from /bin into /usr/bin because they think that everyone has set up links like /bin -> /usr/bin... and more. Web searching will tell.

You could have used --merged-usr for debootstrap and it would have configured the root filesystem with those stupid-links.

To come to there afterwards involves some manual copying hands-on and in particular a serious quirk in order to change /lib/ to a link without losing sight of the elf loader (e.g. /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2).

#481 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] cron-daemon-common depends on systemd » 2024-01-14 11:16:12

It might be possible to debootstrap if you add

--exclude=logrotate,cron,cron-common-daemon

to the command.

#482 Re: Installation » Installation from daedalus desktop-live boots to GRUB Rescue » 2024-01-14 11:02:49

Ok. I'm really not sure which efivars files (aka "variables") can be deleted so a to recover space, but at least the most important ones are "immutable" (see with lsattr). Perhaps there are a couple of unused boot options?

You should back them up before experimenting!

#483 Re: Installation » Installation from daedalus desktop-live boots to GRUB Rescue » 2024-01-14 09:44:17

Ah yes, you also need to

mount -t efivarfs none /sys/firmware/efi/efivars

#485 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Xorg not detecting keyboard or mouse in Excalibur/Ceres » 2024-01-10 11:50:30

Note that the /dev/dri/* devnodes should be in group video and the same for /dev/fb0; group video with read+write access. They are made so by eudev, so the first guess would be that you are using some other hotplug handler which fails to do so.

The second part of that is that the user also needs to be in group video.

#486 Re: Other Issues » I can read but not send to the DNG mailing list » 2024-01-08 02:28:17

"the mail system at host april.topoi.pooq.com" has broken DNS.

#487 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Dropbear-initramfs: cryptroot-unlock says "Try again later" forever » 2024-01-07 21:31:38

cryptsetup-initramfs is not a forked package, so you should report to bugs.debian.org rather.

#488 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » removing pulseaudio correctly / Chimaera » 2024-01-07 10:03:36

Perhaps if you avoid removing libpulse-mainloop-glib0 it might not remove xfce4 and hopefully retain that which you will want to retain.

btw, such output you should rather wrap as "code" than "quote" which would have made a scrolling element instead of a full two pages with such "nothingness".

#489 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Some problems after convertion from Debian to Devuan. » 2024-01-07 07:33:31

Presumably some residue from incompletely removed packages, but there is something claiming to be systemd-udevd in the log. Check for /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd and /ur/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd and remove that, and restart.

The other udevd logs (apparently competing with the extraneous systemd-udevd) belong to the eudev package, which I would have thought you installed as replacement. If not, then you have to chase up which binary is involved and where it comes from. Something like this (as root) perhaps:

# find /bin /sbin /lib /usr -name '*udev*

#490 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Some problems after convertion from Debian to Devuan. » 2024-01-06 07:44:02

[    1.648553] systemd-udevd[197]: starting version 3.2.14

I don't think you should run both udev and eudev!! (It looks like you do)

Get rid of systemd-udevd first. But if that doesn't fix it we should look further.

#491 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Some problems after convertion from Debian to Devuan. » 2024-01-06 01:19:14

Which permissions does it have/get and which permissions would you want?
Do you use eudev?

#492 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-05 08:15:46

Maintainer: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it> ... hubris and deliberate intent to cause trouble.

#493 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Some problems after convertion from Debian to Devuan. » 2024-01-05 03:54:27

Afaict, assuming you have eudev installed, the mode for /dev/dri/renderD128 would be set b.m.o line 42 in /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules.

Answer about seatd and elogind would start with asking which "service managment" you are using; (apparently not sysvinit?)

About apt using ipv4 there's web results like this, suggesting by example:

sudo apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true install pkg
sudo apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update
sudo apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true upgrade
sudo apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true dist-upgrade
sudo apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true install ksh

#494 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » merged /usr » 2024-01-05 02:43:01

Maintaner: Anibal Monsalve Salazar <anibal@debian.org>

Like for sed, maintainer Clint Adams <clint@debian.org>, the only motivations for those moves are hubris and deliberate intent to cause trouble.

#495 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fresh Installation of Devuan Wifi Not Working & Grub Issue » 2024-01-01 23:26:50

Are you using excalibur?

Then the firmware-iwlwifi package installs the firmware to the wrong place; it installs into /usr/lib/firmware/intel whereas the kernel like always will want it in /lib/firmware/intel. If that's the case, please lodge a bug report to debian about it, as well as doing your own hands-on to make it work.

#496 Re: Installation » /sbin/mount.nfs missing after an update » 2023-12-26 00:30:51

You are probably right even though that "decision" is obviously not a reason for changing the installation pathname.

#497 Re: Installation » /sbin/mount.nfs missing after an update » 2023-12-25 22:11:00

Apparently many debian packagers have decided to install stuff at different pathnames than before, which means that any script or program that has used full path is no longer working.

Likewise all existing documentation using the old pathnames is then outdated and wrong.

#498 Re: Installation » Installing Devuan on a PC with RX 7600 » 2023-12-25 02:36:45

The problem you run into is that debian firmware package maintainers have recently decides to install the firmware in a different directory from what the kernel looks in.

It boggles my mind how they could think that that would be a good idea.

You will need some manual hands-on to fix it.

#499 Re: ARM Builds » [SOLVED] Video display not working, via rockpro64 » 2023-12-19 12:32:14

If you have the disk image you can mount that on som other system and run that update command there. Or even patch the initrd directly (unpack, patch, pack).

#500 Re: Off-topic » I'm Back » 2023-12-13 20:25:55

Because the .desktop file uses full pathname.

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