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#26 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Enlightenment » 2026-01-21 22:56:20
The download of enlightenment seemed successful. is there a step i am missing?
Yes either installing a display manager where it will be listing as session option or starting it manually from its start file like is done without one. The /usr/bin/enlightenment_start
zeus@9600k:~$ apt-file list enlightenment | grep bin
enlightenment: /usr/bin/emixer
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_askpass
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_filemanager
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_fprint
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_imc
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_open
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_paledit
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_remote
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_start
enlightenment: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/conf_bindings/e-module-conf_bindings.edj
enlightenment: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/conf_bindings/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.27.1/module.so
enlightenment: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/conf_bindings/module.desktop#27 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Waterfox and AppArmor. » 2026-01-16 14:27:25
"It's easy to see why it became independent again - it was a bad move to start with."
Did not stop you from spreading the trash you did though did it, so tell your lie about not spreading the hate elsewhere. Now you try to deny it when being called out for it I am not buying it or the not wanting to derail disscussion BS either, you were perfectly happy to do it with your FUD spreading.
So what is the problem with just putting it in a bin directory in your home? That is what I do with all of these things then create the .desktop file pointing to it.
zeus@9600k:~$ cat .local/share/applications/waterfox.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=Waterfox
Comment=Browse the World Wide Web
Comment[ar]=تصفح الشبكة العنكبوتية العالمية
Comment[ast]=Restola pela Rede
Comment[bn]=ইন্টারনেট ব্রাউজ করুন
Comment[ca]=Navegueu per la web
Comment[cs]=Prohlížení stránek World Wide Webu
Comment[da]=Surf på internettet
Comment[de]=Im Internet surfen
Comment[el]=Μπορείτε να περιηγηθείτε στο διαδίκτυο (Web)
Comment[es]=Navegue por la web
Comment[et]=Lehitse veebi
Comment[fa]=صفحات شبکه جهانی اینترنت را مرور نمایید
Comment[fi]=Selaa Internetin WWW-sivuja
Comment[fr]=Naviguer sur le Web
Comment[gl]=Navegar pola rede
Comment[he]=גלישה ברחבי האינטרנט
Comment[hr]=Pretražite web
Comment[hu]=A világháló böngészése
Comment[it]=Esplora il web
Comment[ja]=ウェブを閲覧します
Comment[ko]=웹을 돌아 다닙니다
Comment[ku]=Li torê bigere
Comment[lt]=Naršykite internete
Comment[nb]=Surf på nettet
Comment[nl]=Verken het internet
Comment[nn]=Surf på nettet
Comment[no]=Surf på nettet
Comment[pl]=Przeglądaj strony WWW
Comment[pt]=Explorar a Internet com o Waterfox
Comment[pt_BR]=Navegue na Internet
Comment[ro]=Navigați pe Internet
Comment[ru]=Доступ в Интернет
Comment[sk]=Prehliadanie internetu
Comment[sl]=Brskajte po spletu
Comment[sv]=Surfa på webben
Comment[tr]=İnternet'te Gezinin
Comment[ug]=دۇنيادىكى توربەتلەرنى كۆرگىلى بولىدۇ
Comment[uk]=Перегляд сторінок Інтернету
Comment[vi]=Để duyệt các trang web
Comment[zh_CN]=浏览互联网
Comment[zh_TW]=瀏覽網際網路
GenericName=Web Browser
GenericName[ar]=متصفح ويب
GenericName[ast]=Restolador Web
GenericName[bn]=ওয়েব ব্রাউজার
GenericName[ca]=Navegador web
GenericName[cs]=Webový prohlížeč
GenericName[da]=Webbrowser
GenericName[el]=Περιηγητής διαδικτύου
GenericName[es]=Navegador web
GenericName[et]=Veebibrauser
GenericName[fa]=مرورگر اینترنتی
GenericName[fi]=WWW-selain
GenericName[fr]=Navigateur Web
GenericName[gl]=Navegador Web
GenericName[he]=דפדפן אינטרנט
GenericName[hr]=Web preglednik
GenericName[hu]=Webböngésző
GenericName[it]=Browser web
GenericName[ja]=ウェブ・ブラウザ
GenericName[ko]=웹 브라우저
GenericName[ku]=Geroka torê
GenericName[lt]=Interneto naršyklė
GenericName[nb]=Nettleser
GenericName[nl]=Webbrowser
GenericName[nn]=Nettlesar
GenericName[no]=Nettleser
GenericName[pl]=Przeglądarka WWW
GenericName[pt]=Navegador web
GenericName[pt_BR]=Navegador Web
GenericName[ro]=Navigator Internet
GenericName[ru]=Веб-браузер
GenericName[sk]=Internetový prehliadač
GenericName[sl]=Spletni brskalnik
GenericName[sv]=Webbläsare
GenericName[tr]=Web Tarayıcı
GenericName[ug]=توركۆرگۈ
GenericName[uk]=Веб-браузер
GenericName[vi]=Trình duyệt Web
GenericName[zh_CN]=网络浏览器
GenericName[zh_TW]=網路瀏覽器
Keywords=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;
Keywords[ar]=انترنت;إنترنت;متصفح;ويب;وب;
Keywords[ast]=Internet;WWW;Restolador;Web;Esplorador;
Keywords[ca]=Internet;WWW;Navegador;Web;Explorador;Explorer;
Keywords[cs]=Internet;WWW;Prohlížeč;Web;Explorer;
Keywords[da]=Internet;Internettet;WWW;Browser;Browse;Web;Surf;Nettet;
Keywords[de]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Webseite;Site;surfen;online;browsen;
Keywords[el]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Διαδίκτυο;Περιηγητής;Waterfox;Φιρεφοχ;Ιντερνετ;
Keywords[es]=Explorador;Internet;WWW;
Keywords[fi]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;selain;Internet-selain;internetselain;verkkoselain;netti;surffaa;
Keywords[fr]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Fureteur;Surfer;Navigateur;
Keywords[he]=דפדפן;אינטרנט;רשת;אתרים;אתר;פיירפוקס;מוזילה;
Keywords[hr]=Internet;WWW;preglednik;Web;
Keywords[hu]=Internet;WWW;Böngésző;Web;Háló;Net;Explorer;
Keywords[it]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Navigatore;
Keywords[is]=Internet;WWW;Vafri;Vefur;Netvafri;Flakk;
Keywords[ja]=Internet;WWW;Web;インターネット;ブラウザ;ウェブ;エクスプローラ;
Keywords[nb]=Internett;WWW;Nettleser;Explorer;Web;Browser;Nettside;
Keywords[nl]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Verkenner;Website;Surfen;Online;
Keywords[pl]=Internet;WWW;Przeglądarka;Sieć;Surfowanie;Strona internetowa;Strona;Przeglądanie;
Keywords[pt]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorador;Navegador;
Keywords[pt_BR]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorador;Navegador;
Keywords[ru]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;интернет;браузер;веб;файрфокс;огнелис;
Keywords[sk]=Internet;WWW;Prehliadač;Web;Explorer;
Keywords[sl]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Brskalnik;Splet;
Keywords[tr]=İnternet;WWW;Tarayıcı;Web;Gezgin;Web sitesi;Site;sörf;çevrimiçi;tara;
Keywords[uk]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Інтернет;мережа;переглядач;оглядач;браузер;веб;файрфокс;вогнелис;перегляд;
Keywords[vi]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Trình duyệt;Trang web;
Keywords[zh_CN]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;网页;浏览;上网;水狐;Waterfox;wf;互联网;网站;
Keywords[zh_TW]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;網際網路;網路;瀏覽器;上網;網頁;水狐;
Exec=/home/zeus/bin/waterfox/waterfox %u
Terminal=false
X-MuiltpleArgs=false
Type=Application
Icon=/home/zeus/.local/share/plasma_icons/waterfox.ico
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
Keywords=web;browser;internet;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;x-scheme-handler/ftp;x-scheme-handler/chrome;video/webm;application/x-xpinstall;
StartupNotify=true
Actions=NewWindow;NewPrivateWindow;ProfileManagerWindow;
StartupWMClass=waterfox
[Desktop Action NewWindow]
Name=Open a New Window
Name[ach]=Dirica manyen
Name[af]=Nuwe venster
Name[an]=Nueva finestra
Name[ar]=نافذة جديدة
Name[as]=নতুন উইন্ডো
Name[ast]=Ventana nueva
Name[az]=Yeni Pəncərə
Name[be]=Новае акно
Name[bg]=Нов прозорец
Name[bn_BD]=নতুন উইন্ডো (N)
Name[bn_IN]=নতুন উইন্ডো
Name[br]=Prenestr nevez
Name[brx]=गोदान उइन्ड'(N)
Name[bs]=Novi prozor
Name[ca]=Finestra nova
Name[cak]=K'ak'a' tzuwäch
Name[cs]=Nové okno
Name[cy]=Ffenestr Newydd
Name[da]=Nyt vindue
Name[de]=Neues Fenster
Name[dsb]=Nowe wokno
Name[el]=Νέο παράθυρο
Name[en_GB]=New Window
Name[en_US]=New Window
Name[en_ZA]=New Window
Name[eo]=Nova fenestro
Name[es_AR]=Nueva ventana
Name[es_CL]=Nueva ventana
Name[es_ES]=Nueva ventana
Name[es_MX]=Nueva ventana
Name[et]=Uus aken
Name[eu]=Leiho berria
Name[fa]=پنجره جدید
Name[ff]=Henorde Hesere
Name[fi]=Uusi ikkuna
Name[fr]=Nouvelle fenêtre
Name[fy_NL]=Nij finster
Name[ga_IE]=Fuinneog Nua
Name[gd]=Uinneag ùr
Name[gl]=Nova xanela
Name[gn]=Ovetã pyahu
Name[gu_IN]=નવી વિન્ડો
Name[he]=חלון חדש
Name[hi_IN]=नया विंडो
Name[hr]=Novi prozor
Name[hsb]=Nowe wokno
Name[hu]=Új ablak
Name[hy_AM]=Նոր Պատուհան
Name[id]=Jendela Baru
Name[is]=Nýr gluggi
Name[it]=Nuova finestra
Name[ja]=新しいウィンドウ
Name[ja_JP-mac]=新規ウインドウ
Name[ka]=ახალი ფანჯარა
Name[kk]=Жаңа терезе
Name[km]=បង្អួចថ្មី
Name[kn]=ಹೊಸ ಕಿಟಕಿ
Name[ko]=새 창
Name[kok]=नवें जनेल
Name[ks]=نئئ وِنڈو
Name[lij]=Neuvo barcon
Name[lo]=ຫນ້າຕ່າງໃຫມ່
Name[lt]=Naujas langas
Name[ltg]=Jauns lūgs
Name[lv]=Jauns logs
Name[mai]=नव विंडो
Name[mk]=Нов прозорец
Name[ml]=പുതിയ ജാലകം
Name[mr]=नवीन पटल
Name[ms]=Tetingkap Baru
Name[my]=ဝင်းဒိုးအသစ်
Name[nb_NO]=Nytt vindu
Name[ne_NP]=नयाँ सञ्झ्याल
Name[nl]=Nieuw venster
Name[nn_NO]=Nytt vindauge
Name[or]=ନୂତନ ୱିଣ୍ଡୋ
Name[pa_IN]=ਨਵੀਂ ਵਿੰਡੋ
Name[pl]=Nowe okno
Name[pt_BR]=Nova janela
Name[pt_PT]=Nova janela
Name[rm]=Nova fanestra
Name[ro]=Fereastră nouă
Name[ru]=Новое окно
Name[sat]=नावा विंडो (N)
Name[si]=නව කවුළුවක්
Name[sk]=Nové okno
Name[sl]=Novo okno
Name[son]=Zanfun taaga
Name[sq]=Dritare e Re
Name[sr]=Нови прозор
Name[sv_SE]=Nytt fönster
Name[ta]=புதிய சாளரம்
Name[te]=కొత్త విండో
Name[th]=หน้าต่างใหม่
Name[tr]=Yeni pencere
Name[tsz]=Eraatarakua jimpani
Name[uk]=Нове вікно
Name[ur]=نیا دریچہ
Name[uz]=Yangi oyna
Name[vi]=Cửa sổ mới
Name[wo]=Palanteer bu bees
Name[xh]=Ifestile entsha
Name[zh_CN]=新建窗口
Name[zh_TW]=開新視窗
Exec=waterfox --new-window
[Desktop Action NewPrivateWindow]
Name=Open a New Private Window
Name[ach]=Dirica manyen me mung
Name[af]=Nuwe privaatvenster
Name[an]=Nueva finestra privada
Name[ar]=نافذة خاصة جديدة
Name[as]=নতুন ব্যক্তিগত উইন্ডো
Name[ast]=Ventana privada nueva
Name[az]=Yeni Məxfi Pəncərə
Name[be]=Новае акно адасаблення
Name[bg]=Нов прозорец за поверително сърфиране
Name[bn_BD]=নতুন ব্যক্তিগত উইন্ডো
Name[bn_IN]=নতুন ব্যক্তিগত উইন্ডো
Name[br]=Prenestr merdeiñ prevez nevez
Name[brx]=गोदान प्राइभेट उइन्ड'
Name[bs]=Novi privatni prozor
Name[ca]=Finestra privada nova
Name[cak]=K'ak'a' ichinan tzuwäch
Name[cs]=Nové anonymní okno
Name[cy]=Ffenestr Breifat Newydd
Name[da]=Nyt privat vindue
Name[de]=Neues privates Fenster
Name[dsb]=Nowe priwatne wokno
Name[el]=Νέο παράθυρο ιδιωτικής περιήγησης
Name[en_GB]=New Private Window
Name[en_US]=New Private Window
Name[en_ZA]=New Private Window
Name[eo]=Nova privata fenestro
Name[es_AR]=Nueva ventana privada
Name[es_CL]=Nueva ventana privada
Name[es_ES]=Nueva ventana privada
Name[es_MX]=Nueva ventana privada
Name[et]=Uus privaatne aken
Name[eu]=Leiho pribatu berria
Name[fa]=پنجره ناشناس جدید
Name[ff]=Henorde Suturo Hesere
Name[fi]=Uusi yksityinen ikkuna
Name[fr]=Nouvelle fenêtre de navigation privée
Name[fy_NL]=Nij priveefinster
Name[ga_IE]=Fuinneog Nua Phríobháideach
Name[gd]=Uinneag phrìobhaideach ùr
Name[gl]=Nova xanela privada
Name[gn]=Ovetã ñemi pyahu
Name[gu_IN]=નવી ખાનગી વિન્ડો
Name[he]=חלון פרטי חדש
Name[hi_IN]=नयी निजी विंडो
Name[hr]=Novi privatni prozor
Name[hsb]=Nowe priwatne wokno
Name[hu]=Új privát ablak
Name[hy_AM]=Սկսել Գաղտնի դիտարկում
Name[id]=Jendela Mode Pribadi Baru
Name[is]=Nýr huliðsgluggi
Name[it]=Nuova finestra anonima
Name[ja]=新しいプライベートウィンドウ
Name[ja_JP-mac]=新規プライベートウインドウ
Name[ka]=ახალი პირადი ფანჯარა
Name[kk]=Жаңа жекелік терезе
Name[km]=បង្អួចឯកជនថ្មី
Name[kn]=ಹೊಸ ಖಾಸಗಿ ಕಿಟಕಿ
Name[ko]=새 사생활 보호 모드
Name[kok]=नवो खाजगी विंडो
Name[ks]=نْو پرایوٹ وینڈو&
Name[lij]=Neuvo barcon privou
Name[lo]=ເປີດຫນ້າຕ່າງສວນຕົວຂື້ນມາໃຫມ່
Name[lt]=Naujas privataus naršymo langas
Name[ltg]=Jauns privatais lūgs
Name[lv]=Jauns privātais logs
Name[mai]=नया निज विंडो (W)
Name[mk]=Нов приватен прозорец
Name[ml]=പുതിയ സ്വകാര്യ ജാലകം
Name[mr]=नवीन वैयक्तिक पटल
Name[ms]=Tetingkap Persendirian Baharu
Name[my]=New Private Window
Name[nb_NO]=Nytt privat vindu
Name[ne_NP]=नयाँ निजी सञ्झ्याल
Name[nl]=Nieuw privévenster
Name[nn_NO]=Nytt privat vindauge
Name[or]=ନୂତନ ବ୍ୟକ୍ତିଗତ ୱିଣ୍ଡୋ
Name[pa_IN]=ਨਵੀਂ ਪ੍ਰਾਈਵੇਟ ਵਿੰਡੋ
Name[pl]=Nowe okno prywatne
Name[pt_BR]=Nova janela privativa
Name[pt_PT]=Nova janela privada
Name[rm]=Nova fanestra privata
Name[ro]=Fereastră privată nouă
Name[ru]=Новое приватное окно
Name[sat]=नावा निजेराक् विंडो (W )
Name[si]=නව පුද්ගලික කවුළුව (W)
Name[sk]=Nové okno v režime Súkromné prehliadanie
Name[sl]=Novo zasebno okno
Name[son]=Sutura zanfun taaga
Name[sq]=Dritare e Re Private
Name[sr]=Нови приватан прозор
Name[sv_SE]=Nytt privat fönster
Name[ta]=புதிய தனிப்பட்ட சாளரம்
Name[te]=కొత్త ఆంతరంగిక విండో
Name[th]=หน้าต่างส่วนตัวใหม่
Name[tr]=Yeni gizli pencere
Name[tsz]=Juchiiti eraatarakua jimpani
Name[uk]=Приватне вікно
Name[ur]=نیا نجی دریچہ
Name[uz]=Yangi maxfiy oyna
Name[vi]=Cửa sổ riêng tư mới
Name[wo]=Panlanteeru biir bu bees
Name[xh]=Ifestile yangasese entsha
Name[zh_CN]=新建隐私浏览窗口
Name[zh_TW]=新增隱私視窗
Exec=waterfox --private-window
[Desktop Action ProfileManagerWindow]
Name=Open the Profile Manager
Name[cs]=Správa profilů
Name[en_GB]=Profile Manager
Name[en_US]=Profile Manager
Name[pl]=Menedżer Profili
Exec=waterfox --ProfileManagerIt is rather large as the file I got from the .deb I found had all those languages enabled and got the icon file from a reddit posting.
https://software.opensuse.org//download … e=waterfox
https://www.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comme … _waterfox/
Now this works for me in KDE if the desktop you use does not respect the XDG specification for these things I have no clue how to do it so it works.
#28 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Waterfox and AppArmor. » 2026-01-15 19:15:45
but mud sticks.
Especially when the trolls continue to spread the FUD show me one company out there who does not do it. The devs say this relationship is over, as you admit, but the FUD spreaders continue like they always do in their never ending quest to keep the hate going.
#29 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Waterfox and AppArmor. » 2026-01-15 16:55:51
You may want to check that the waterfox* files are executable the latest download of them did not have the executable set for me causing my .desktop file I made to fail when trying to start it. The -bin I did not use still does not have it set as I only put it on the waterfox itself.
zeus@9600k:~$ ls -l bin/waterfox/waterfox*
772 -rwxr-xr-x 1 zeus zeus 790352 Jan 11 07:09 bin/waterfox/waterfox*
772 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 790352 Jan 11 07:09 bin/waterfox/waterfox-bin
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 1350 Jan 11 07:09 bin/waterfox/waterfox-bin.sig
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 1350 Jan 11 07:09 bin/waterfox/waterfox.sigEdit: And if you want to make certain all of the AI trash is disabled then this snippet from my install notes can help do that for you.
Locked and disabled the AI garbage on both Waterfox and Firefox with the settings in this article.
https://yano.me/2025/10/locking-preferences-disable-ai-firefox/
zeus@9600k:~$ nano bin/waterfox/defaults/pref/local-settings.js
zeus@9600k:~$ cp bin/waterfox/defaults/pref/local-settings.js bin/firefox/defaults/pref/local-settings.js
zeus@9600k:~$ nano bin/waterfox/mozilla.cfg
zeus@9600k:~$ cp bin/waterfox/mozilla.cfg bin/firefox/mozilla.cfg#30 Re: Documentation » HOW TO: Install XLibre on Devuan » 2026-01-14 20:11:59
Besides that, X is not dead or abandoned, not by a longshot.
At least from what I have seen lately.
Yeah nothing like someone getting fed up making you look bad by doing some actual work for a change on a project to get people off their ass and doing some work on the mostly abandoned project except for security fixes being applied. There were many many patches the X people left laying around to rot until the fork happened and started to apply them that got those X people off their asses to do something..
#31 Re: Documentation » HOW TO: Install XLibre on Devuan » 2026-01-14 05:37:01
Had typo in my file now corrected it offers to upgrade the packages already installed on the test machine.
root@8400:~# apt upgrade
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
libxatracker2
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove it.
Upgrading:
xserver-xlibre-common xserver-xlibre-video-fbdev
xserver-xlibre-core xserver-xlibre-video-intel
xserver-xlibre-input-libinput xserver-xlibre-video-nouveau
xserver-xlibre-input-wacom xserver-xlibre-video-qxl
xserver-xlibre-legacy xserver-xlibre-video-radeon
xserver-xlibre-video-amdgpu xserver-xlibre-video-vesa
xserver-xlibre-video-ati xserver-xlibre-video-vmware
Summary:
Upgrading: 14, Installing: 0, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 0
Download size: 3,721 kB
Space needed: 7,168 B / 20.7 GB available
Continue? [Y/n] yOh even has a change log file going back several releases, so possibility this person will continue to do it.
#32 Re: Documentation » HOW TO: Install XLibre on Devuan » 2026-01-13 23:56:25
Got around to giving it try on spare machine it works well enough. But looks like another dead project like so many of these repos are, the version in it is from September of last year xserver-xlibre-legacy (2:25.0.0.12-1). The current version is at 25.1.1 too bad perhaps someone will decide they want to make some current packages of it.
#33 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Is it Possible to Run Devuan on an intel architecture? » 2026-01-10 23:10:44
As always, it is setup that takes the time, but I'm almost there. Installing GBs of Thunderbird's profile will be the final act, and I'll go.
Still at least one update short of being done with the system files, 13.3 is now released so at least the basefiles package should be upgradable to show that for the version number.
root@9600k:~# cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur)"
NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="6"
VERSION="6 (excalibur)"
VERSION_CODENAME="excalibur"
ID=devuan
ID_LIKE=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.devuan.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://devuan.org/os/community"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.devuan.org/"
root@9600k:~# cat /etc/debian_version
13.3#34 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Audio cuts off when clicking on desktop » 2026-01-10 23:02:09
Listening to audio files in VLC, if I click on the desktop AT ALL, an icon or empty space, the sound gets turned off.
WTF is happening?
Not that it going to do you much good but just tested it here as I had never seen that before and I know why, it does not happen on my install. I am using the KDE in Excalibur for my desktop.
#35 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Xscreensaver version in ports is still out of date » 2026-01-10 22:55:04
BUT, why is it not even in experimental? That's the real question.
Two reasons I can see maintainer very busy the package is low priority or just to damn lazy to do anything about it. As you would know being long time user maintainers have their own little fiefdom over their packages with other developers hesitant to step in and do anything about it. If you feel this strongly about it file bug asking for newer version and see if anyone gets off their ass to do something about it.
#36 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Xscreensaver version in ports is still out of date » 2026-01-10 14:32:16
but being 2 years out of date and have no update even in experimental doesn't seem right.
You must be new to a Debian based system, that IS the main complaint always given by people critical of the way they do things. Oh and two years out of date is nothing really for them they will gladly ship software that is sometimes a decade out of date.
#37 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Thunar flooding .xsession-errors after Excalibur upgrade » 2026-01-09 23:04:37
tail -10000 /home/$(whoami)/.xsession-errors > /home/$(whoami)/.xsession-errors
somehow zeroes the file... well, anyway it's another topic
Of course it does a single > redirect tells the system to overwrite the file creating new version I would think the -10000 tells tail to go back so far it has nothing to put into the file it creates so it is empty. If you wanted the file contents to remain then the >> append to the file should be used then its contents will remain and whatever the command is doing will be added to the file.
#38 Re: Documentation » How to boot GRUB with HP Probook 4540s » 2026-01-08 18:07:57
In addition to the HP piece of garbage implementation of the EFI specification the default location and file that all others look for when booting is /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI for a 64bit boot or a 32 named file for 32 bit boot. That file is a copy of the linux or windows .efi file used to boot with in their respective directories in the EFI directory in the EFI partition on the disk.
enter it blindly in HP UEFI interface in Customized Boot using backslashes, not forward slashes
Of course you have to it is a fat32 file system it does not use forward slashes for a directory seperator.
#39 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Is it Possible to Run Devuan on an intel architecture? » 2026-01-08 15:08:40
No problems of any kind then nor ever since. What on earth are you talking about? AMD v's intel is a non-starter here,
Especially since the instruction set contained in both chips are virtually identical due to the cross licensing agreements they both have with each other for that technology. And have had since the beginning of AMD as required by the Department of Defense in the US for Intel to get the contracts to sell to them, they required backup source of supply for their chips they were buying.
#40 Re: Installation » No terminals after installation of Excalibur » 2026-01-08 02:52:46
Apart from "aptitutde update & upgrade" I just stuck with the defaults in /etc/apt/sources.list that the installation of Excalibur came with, assuming it would provide stable packages for this new installation.
Well you may want to add a line for it in the sources.list as those are packages that you will eventually be getting when the next point upgrade happens.
Could be if it has been changed.
But that's the first time I have ever experienced this as this does not happen with my Chimaera installation on my working machine nor have I ever seen this on Debian installations that I've had in the past.
It could just be my overly cautious nature when doing things like that making me think it was what it did. But unless the desktop has frozen on one of those extremely rare occasions I always log out before trying to get to the virtual console. So that may well be the case with me thinking incorrectly it did log you out as I said when writing it not sure.
#41 Re: Installation » No terminals after installation of Excalibur » 2026-01-07 22:16:49
That would be...
6.12.57+deb13-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.12.57-1 (2025-11-05) x86_64 GNU/Linux
The most recent kernel for Excalibur that was being installed when I set up the system a few days ago.
Well if you do not count being missing the proposed-updates repository which gives newer kernel then you are correct. For your other query on the login screen. I had thought that was the default behaviour it logging you out when switching to the virtual consoles but am not totally certain as I always logout before switching to one, that is my default behaviour 
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apt policy linux-image-amd64
linux-image-amd64:
Installed: 6.12.63-1
Candidate: 6.12.63-1
Version table:
6.17.13-1~bpo13+1 100
100 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur-backports/main amd64 P>
*** 6.12.63-1 990
990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur-proposed-updates/main >
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
6.12.57-1 990
990 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur/main amd64 Packages
#42 Re: Off-topic » GNOME & Firefox Consider Disabling Middle Click Paste By Default » 2026-01-07 17:34:46
Lol. Sounds like somebody fat-fingered that middle-click once too often and exploded into geek fury.
Nah just the Gnome trolls anti-user philosophy rearing its ugly head once more. Do not know if I count the number of times I have seen it from them clowns in the twenty-six plus soon to be twenty-seven years of using GNU/Linux. Seems they have roped in the Firefox anti-user crowd for this one too, they have been getting fairly good with competing with them for top honors the last few years..
#43 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Is it Possible to Run Devuan on an intel architecture? » 2026-01-07 17:27:01
Not strictly correct. HP actually designed the Itanium and the main target was actually HP-UX and the wider server market.
Yes I left out the server users phrase in that line. The wackypedia article on the joint HP/Intel effort makes for fascinating reading for those who did not live it like I did...
#44 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Is it Possible to Run Devuan on an intel architecture? » 2026-01-07 13:22:17
Search the web for a more detailed history. amd64 was designed to run 32 bit and 64 bit code, Itanium was pure 64 bit.
And it was incompatible with the existing instruction set the x86 all these computers use, AMD's implementation was an addition of the 64bit computing to the existing instruction set. This is why it got named amd64 because they did it when Intel was out to abandon it users and force them onto the new processors that used the ia64 for the now known as Itanic chip for its colossal failure in the market. This is why you see the x86_64 when looking at the output of the uname command the x86 arch with 64 bit extensions.
zeus@9600k:~$ uname -a
Linux 9600k 6.12.63+deb13-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.12.63-1 (2025-12-30) x86_64 GNU/LinuxEdit: To answer the OPs question since it says 64bit for the Windows 11 and higher than 6.8 Linus kernel on that product page. The amd64 version is exactly what you need to take full advantage of the processor if the 6.12 kernel is new enough to support a processor released in the first quarter of last year them saying 6.8 seems to support that idea. Though if not you many need the backports or newer kernel to use it. Easy enough though just make an install on supported machine on usb key then install newer kernel boot it on the new machine and clone the install to the new machines internal drive
#45 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Cloning and UUIDs » 2026-01-06 08:33:46
You are welcome good to read you got it solved.
#46 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Cloning and UUIDs » 2026-01-05 19:26:35
update-grub has been executed but it has not picked up the new system present in the cloned HDD.
BIOS have not used one of them systems in good decade now, I think a grub-install --recheck /dev/sd? might be in order. Ah and the OS-prober is probably not enabled as well, check in /etc/default/grub, that would prevent the update-grub from checking for other OSs to add to the list now I think of that one.
root@9600k:~# cat /etc/default/grub |grep -i probe
#GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false#47 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Cloning and UUIDs » 2026-01-05 13:53:13
You are welcome and now I am seeing the GRUB mentioned again in the grub.cfg in the EFI partition debian directory and in the new changed drive /boot/grub/grub.cfg you need to change to the new UUID o it will boot the old drives configuration. The EFI is really easy only one instance to change in that file the boot at least a dozen or more, what I use in a script for keeping it all straight when cloning to my various machines and drives is this.
sed -i "s/OLD_UUID/NEW_CHANGED_UUID/g" /path/to/new/changed/boot/grub/grub.cfg #48 Re: ARM Builds » excalibur image for original rpi? » 2026-01-04 23:55:34
There are no tested Trixie images for the 1b so I had to start with Bookworm -- which worked fine for migrating to Daedalus, but my Pi wouldn't boot (blank screen, no blinking of the activity LED on the Pi) after upgrading to Excalibur.
Not much of clue on this one never used a 1b only my 4b for my install. Only thing I can think of is no proper firmware installed in the upgrading. You can stick with that posted few weeks ago upgrade as long as you are comfortable with never upgrading the kernel as it failed every time I tried to do it with those images or the Daedalus conversion which should just upgrade fine on that branch. Which is why I went with the install Debian then convert to Devuan.
#49 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Cloning and UUIDs » 2026-01-04 23:43:21
But what about those PTUUID and PARTUUID numbers?
They don't change in a source HDD / clone HDD scenario?
As I said in my previous posting they are never used by you when booting so the system has nothing to be confused by if they remain the same. Only the UUID is checked by the system when the UUID= is used in the fstab.
#50 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Cloning and UUIDs » 2026-01-04 23:36:28
From what I understand (?) the cloned drive needs a new set of UUIDs so that it is seen by the system as a different drive.
Not too sure but I expect that it would be like this:
You understand some of it correctly, the UUID needs to be changed the partition UUID does not matter it is never used. The whole drive UUID does not need to changed again it is never used and I notice you use a swap UUID so you would need to format and change its UUID in the fstab on the drive you are doing all the changes on or the system will see identical UUIDs and get confused..
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