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#401 Re: Other Issues » backdoor targeting deb and rpm via systemd? » 2024-04-13 00:22:31

@quick fur it is pure evil, and to be fair, these linux frameworks are also pure evil, polkit, systemd,  avahi,   dbus,  networkmanager,  pulseaudio,  pipewire, wayland,  java and their libraries are very often forced regardless of if the user needs them or not or for that matter... WANTS them...

This is why devuan cannot be used minimally and still have what i consider to be the correct functionality.

Too many debian inherited crapstorms.  Its not devuan's fault, its debian's and all the other egregious devs who are like, "don't rock the boat" towards these bs corporate influencers. Redhat is a perfect example of why YOU NEED to ROCK THE BOAT! Same with Microsoft and Google and Apple.

They need to be told to suck it and force them to gag on it.

#402 Re: Devuan » liblzma CVE-2024-3094 » 2024-04-13 00:11:30

@ralph.ronnquist

dbus, systemd, network-manager, pulseaudio, pipewire, wayland, avahi, java and their libraries being completely OPTIONAL is the only way I would think that devuan could meet that standard of what I would desire.

Aka, not needing those packages + their libraries would be my criteria.

If that cannot be reached, then it is mostly futile.

As for specific packages, those are the system ones that prevent a minimal devuan install but specifically which are okay in my book?

I cannot say completely, because I would have to wade through devuan to find them. It would be very tricky to specify them all given Devuan has 50K+ packages.

Probably less than 10K of them would fit my bill.

In any case, I am not sure what you meant by meeting a minimal system design.

My criteria are probably impossible for devuan unless signifiant changes were made.

And no i don't expect them to be met. This isn't for the faint of heart after all.

wink

#403 Re: Devuan » liblzma CVE-2024-3094 » 2024-04-12 16:54:06

If I want a minimalistic system I have two choices...

OpenBSD or Hyperbola.

All the others don't seem minimal enough.

Devuan is not minimal enough, but I will definitely use it for ARM64 since Hyperbola don't support it.

#404 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-04-07 19:13:50

Why did a Microsoft employee get fired from Microsoft?

Because when he was working, he was working on wine. tongue

#405 Re: Devuan » this morning... » 2024-04-07 19:07:26

I was hoping after this morning you would say "I got wasted drinking from fermented pumpkins."

Darn...

sad

#406 Re: Devuan » liblzma CVE-2024-3094 » 2024-04-07 18:56:08

@jue-gen I had a feeling this was not going to affect devuan. Its awesome to know I was right.

I looked into the vulnerability and saw it used systemd. And devuan blocks that crap as much as possible, so I figured it wouldn't have any affect.

big_smile

#407 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Firefox and Firefox Nightly repos in Synaptic . . » 2024-04-06 19:00:35

If you use firefox directly, rather than librewolf, mullvad, or mercury, always use ESR.

ESR is way more stable from what I am told.

Although, it also changes much less, so its probably accurate anyhow.

#408 Re: Devuan Derivatives » JWM KIT love fest » 2024-04-04 01:31:46

@jwm-kit I replied back, I just wanted an option to make it so you could only unlock if you used your password or rebooted. Not sysrq, switching terminals like alt control f2-f9 and well you get the idea and disable alt control  backspace for escaping lock too. again without bash if possible. Or be willing to port it for HyperbolaBSD in such a way.

#409 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How much RAM do I need to install a Devuan? » 2024-04-03 02:04:27

@kelsoo 2GB would be web browser + emulator type functionality inside of a window manager functionality or better.

Right now I am using less than 1500MB of ram and I am running dosbox-x with win95 in it. (games!)

Before that it was less than 900MB. I use jwm as many know here.

Anywho, my point I guess is, linux can be very minimal in ram usage if you try hard enough.

So yeah, you are correct.

@manessa Having 8GB means you could even have a vm of another linux distro on at the same time as well among quite a few other things. Provided your cpu could handle it, which it sounds like it could easily given it has 6 cores.

You will have very little trouble here even if you had a systemd distro.

But I doubt you plan to do that. big_smile

#410 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-04-03 01:56:01

@golinux fun fact if you look up useless things, you will find the following:
qanon
fascism
the kkk
climate change denial
conspiracy nuts like alex jones, etc...

tongue

#411 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-04-02 22:23:06

@quickfur  your joke regarding golinux was fun. tongue

@golinux

Are there too many groaners in here for you and you find it annoying? Or can you not laugh at being poked at?

I don't really know specifically, but wondered for real.

If you want nonsense, just  plug some c4 into a cash register full of only coins and blow it up! Then you will really have NONCENTS! tongue

#412 Re: Devuan Derivatives » JWM KIT love fest » 2024-04-02 22:12:59

@jwmkit I sent you an email regarding something recently.

But just in case you missed it:

https://codeberg.org/phranz/pactions

I wanted to know if you could make jwmkit_logout, to have these options built in to it:

disable crtl-alt-backspace
disable sysrq
disable vt-switching
lockscreen

you already have these:

logout, suspend, shutdown, poweroff

But I wondered if you could make those possible.

Also, if you don't want to make that a default, even if you could make that optional, that would be awesome.

This script I referenced uses yad. 

Or if this all sounds too complicated, can you modify that script to make it work in Hyperbola with any type of shell, not just bash, not require sudo, etc...

#413 Re: Off-topic » Corebooted T430 whining cpu noise issue » 2024-03-21 22:38:01

@goat I noticed one time once I plugged in the AC adapter it started up, so you are probably right.

I wonder if there is a  cure to make it much less annoying.

Is there a way to do this:

https://libreboot.org/docs/misc/#high-p … ed-distros

with openrc or runit?

Also without powertop too.

#414 Re: DIY » Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment » 2024-03-21 22:34:55

@mrnhmath fair enough, but yeah, I agree with unixman1230

#415 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-03-21 22:32:56

@quickfur the address joke was gold. Very amusing.

And your response to golinux about the groaners keep coming was even more gold.

#416 Re: Off-topic » Corebooted T430 whining cpu noise issue » 2024-03-18 18:41:07

@aluma funny thing is, its silent right now. Which is rare. It tends to happen when the computer is idle for a short while I think or is doing alot.

Although, its usually not this quiet.

#417 Off-topic » Corebooted T430 whining cpu noise issue » 2024-03-17 22:02:02

zapper
Replies: 6

Anyone know how to make this cpu whining noise disappear? I need a solution that works for Hyperbola, hence off topic.

I wondered if anyone has any solutions that they use for devuan that might work on Hyperbola.

if it requires systemd, dbus, pam, elogind, consolekit, which I doubt, then no.

But if it works for openrc, it might be useful for me.

Although, I use an old openrc, although its called hyperrc on the hyperbola website.

I have tried the thinkwiki guide, but it is useless for me. Exec Error  gets in my way.

Btw, the openrc used is version 28. just a heads up.

I am open though to other suggestions, acpid, lm_sensors, etc.

#418 Re: Off-topic » Questions about ARM » 2024-03-17 21:57:00

@siva I guess I could do that, not sure how, but its worth a try.

#419 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-03-14 23:44:39

Just to be clear @the-amnesiac-philospher

I was saying your comment was racy not that I necessarily agreed with you posting it.

;P

#420 Re: Off-topic » Questions about ARM » 2024-03-14 13:28:44

@stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn

Hmm... not so simple then

#421 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-03-14 13:26:34

@The-Amnesiac-Philospher Ain't that the truth... tongue

#422 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-03-13 02:37:30

a bunch of tombs walk into a bar each carrying graphic novels and being covered in blood so the bartender says

So you guys once carried dead serial killers I take it...

tongue

#423 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-03-13 02:35:04

A person goes to scottland and notices a huge jail with lots of water in the middle and asks someone why there is so much?

The person says, we need it to keep the monster happy, or it won't be locked up anymore. You know, the lock-ness tongue

#424 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-03-13 02:32:45

Why did bigfoot kill the farmers crops?

Because he was a sasquash! tongue

#425 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-03-12 22:28:52

A donkey, a mob boss and a mad man all walk into a bar and the bartender says, former president what can I get for you?

tongue

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