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#326 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2025-11-16 15:59:21

Oh no no no! @Ron the gnome-keyring is a completely different thing than the Devuan and Debian keyrings, you can't delete them as they are the keys to the repo, gnome-keyring is not even close to the same thing.

#327 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » ALSA+Jack system wide audio No pulseaudio or pipewire » 2025-11-16 15:54:59

I've been running Reaper and pure alsa for some years and I remember at least two hurdles. One was setting the default alsa output (card) the other was getting parallel sound outputs from Reaper and for example youtube.

Yep, I love me some pure alsa sound, but I don't enjoy trying to figure out all the myriad commands needed to try to get it to do more complex things. I sat down yesterday and finally worked out an update to my basic config files i've been using to allow multiple sources to play simultaneously, but of course .asoundrc is much larger now.

I also started work on a basic card-switcher GUI to add to AlsaTune... it's not hard to edit .asoundrc or .asound.conf and switch some 0's to 1's but just seems more elegant to offer a simple GUI solution.

#328 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » ALSA+Jack system wide audio No pulseaudio or pipewire » 2025-11-15 17:25:54

Nice work, very interesting stuff! @rations you should shoot me an e-mail sometime, i've been working on sound using Alsa without a sound server for a long time now and your solution of pairing it with Jack instead is interesting on a lot of levels.

For a GUI and in general for your project, you might want to take a look at AlsaTune, the source code is in the package and there may be elements of the code that might work for your GUI. If you're not familiar, it's a GUI for the alsa mixer and EQ with a system to save user EQ presets. Build thread : https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7278
Package: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … /AlsaTune/

#329 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2025-11-14 20:16:04

Are you planning to release a Vuu-do based on Excalibur?

I am at some point, for Vuu-do I stay off the cutting edge and go for pure stability, so i'm going to wait a while and let the dust settle before I start to build. Right now i'm still focused on the Daedalus versions as there's still work to be done, and also testing/bug-hunting/fixing stuff where i'm able to help in Devuan Excalibur so we can get it all dialed in and folks can roll up some new spins. wink

#330 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2025-11-14 19:04:23

I'm confused. Then what caused the keyring not unlocked message?

You downloaded the Devuan-mate-mini, not one of the Vuu-do isos, the Devuan spins of Mate are just vanilla Devuan with no customization on my part, made from netinstalls and snapshotted along the way for testing purposes these last few months.

#331 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2025-11-14 18:12:43

That's probably a typo, he must have meant 2013 as DDR3 did not exist in 2003 and nobody (except servers and maybe very high-end workstations) had 4 GB of RAM in 2003, 4 GB of DDR3 RAM was typical in 2013.

Or possibly the DDR3 is the typo, I do have a 2005 machine running Vuu-do out in my garage (only 1 gb of ram though), so I know it runs well on these old machines.

#332 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2025-11-14 18:08:57

So if this problem pops up in a fresh install, all I need to do is delete gnome-keyring package? (I don't store passwords anywhere except on a piece of paper.)

Same here and that's what I did, no issues since then. It's not installed in the Vuu-do iso's, but the Devuan spins come with it by default.

#333 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2025-11-14 15:48:05

Hi Ron, password storage issue that's been going on for soooo many years. Previously you could (as root) append password-store=basic to the exec line in Chromium's .desktop in /usr/share/applications and that might still work.

Exec=/usr/bin/chromium --password-store=basic %U

Problem is the gnome-keyring package here, I solved it in Vuu-do by uninstalling it, which causes Chromium to revert to basic storage. If you store online passwords at all you might look into one of the password managers, the gnome-keyring doesn't work well when it works at all.

#334 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-14 00:28:13

^^damn right!

Get yer butts busy whippersnappers!

#335 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Devuan Daedalus 32-bit to Excalibur » 2025-11-14 00:25:55

Someone thought it was a good idea to rearrange the deck chairs, even though we're all still sitting in them.

Wisdom and sigline material right there.

Not sure it was ever anything more than a control thing on their part.

#336 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Cannot change background » 2025-11-13 14:40:29

The new xfce4 will allow users to change the desktop background after install, but it won't let distro developers change it. We're supposed to fork xfce4-desktop if we want that.

That's bizarre and unacceptable. I agree with Altoid, it's time to ditch the rodent, but I think Mate would be a better fit for Devuan for the default desktop.

Not that it would be too hard to whip up a Crunchbang style simple Devuan iso, I think I still have a copy of Waldorf in my stash of old Linux CD's somewhere.

Funny how sometimes what's old becomes new again, Openbox is turning into the new hotness as more and more people get tired of the big DE shenanigans lately.

#337 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Devuan Daedalus 32-bit to Excalibur » 2025-11-12 16:11:30

My laptop is an older AMD, and it will indeed run almost fine with free firmware as will most i've tried in Daedalus, but there are some small boot errors like yours and my machine will not suspend properly without the firmware-amd-graphics package.

In Excalibur in tests so far on my old lappy, it has worse errors if I don't have that firmware package as I couldn't get past lightdm without it.

#338 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-12 16:04:32

Its memory safe and modern

Yes but is it free of evil particles? tongue

#339 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-11 20:11:28

@spliskin, timely post lol https://lists.debian.org/debian-securit … 00218.html

"Two security issues were discovered in sudo-rs, a Rust-based implemention
of sudo (and su), which could result in the local disclosure of partially
typed passwords or an authentication bypass in some targetpw/rootpw
configurations."

#340 Re: Off-topic » Work - or Support for project » 2025-11-08 04:15:31

Work? Sorry friend, i'm poor as dirt, wal-mart whiskey is about the best I can afford. wink

Forked DE? Color me interested, details?

#341 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-07 21:10:16

If you want to learn a new language

I really don't. I'm still trying to learn C, just squashed a few more bugs in stuff I thought was done, lol.

#342 Re: DIY » easydeb deb packager » 2025-11-07 20:49:32

you don't need to build easydeb, there's a deb in the releases.
https://gitea.com/easydeb/easydeb/relea … f3_all.deb

You could have led with that. wink

Grabbing a copy now.

#343 Re: Off-topic » Hard Rust requirements for APT from may next year » 2025-11-07 20:39:45

Haven't used rust, have read a fair bit about it... the code itself is a little weird, looks like my cat walked across my keyboard. I understand the principles and the need to guard against issues, memory leaks and such.

But having worked now in C for a short time, I assumed that was just part of the process, you write the code then you test it, debug it, test it some more, check error logs, watch the task manager for hanging processes, trace glitches etc. until it's fully demonstrated to work perfectly as you can make it.

You're still going to have to do all that stuff in rust too regardless of the baby buggy bumpers, or are they claiming that if it compiles at all then it's good and doesn't need testing?

Help me out here, i'm trying to learn.

#344 Re: Documentation » Make QT5 and QT6 apps use your GTK theme » 2025-11-07 16:54:46

Glad it worked out for you Calamity! Adding some links here to keep up info, these are the Excalibur versions:

Source code for both packages: https://www.opencode.net/trialuser

qt5gtk2 : https://build.opensuse.org/repositories … 93/qt5gtk2
qt6gtk2 : https://build.opensuse.org/package/show … 93/qt6gtk2

export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5gtk2

#345 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Devuan Daedalus 32-bit to Excalibur » 2025-11-07 02:30:51

The alsa error has a fix somewhere else on this forum. Search for alsa_restore and I think you'll find it. It's an easy fix.

This never got fixed?

Edited: I came off unnecessarily harsh last night and didn't mean to, was frustrated at the time, sorry about that.

#346 Re: Installation » Everything is working perfectly, thanks community » 2025-11-06 23:20:04

@golinux: NSFW = Not Safe For Work

As in not safe to view on a work computer as content may be sketchy.

#347 Re: Freedom Hacks » ALSA without PulseAudio and PipeWire » 2025-11-06 20:42:03

I wouldn't call anything to do with Pulse harmless, I dislike it as much as you do, but in this case it's not doing anything Igor. Nothing wrong with going to the lengths you have gone to, but it's based on a false premise, and so in effect you're posting a false alarm with incorrect data.

I'm not trying for bit-perfect anything here, i'll leave stuff like that to the audio forums and people with novel-length .asoundrc's.

If it bugs a person that much, you can probably get rid of it a lot easier by just deleting the 2 pulse .so files in the alsa-lib folder, lol.

In any case, the only reason I posted in your thread the last couple days is because another user tagged me and asked a question, so I answered it and now i'll leave you to it and not bother you anymore today.

#348 Re: Installation » Everything is working perfectly, thanks community » 2025-11-06 20:17:58

Okay OP i'm gonna need you to close some of the windows on that desktop and re-take the screenshot so I can judge whether it's NSFW. wink

#349 Re: DIY » easydeb deb packager » 2025-11-06 20:15:47

Interesting stuff and I agree with you about the need to simplify things, tagged so I can check out your work later. A DUR would be nice to have, I have some things that could go into it myself. Thanks for posting!

#350 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2025-11-06 19:51:28

11-06-2025 New versions uploaded.

Updates to Chromium and GIMP, some changes to sources.list, updates to VMAN and VAI
and ScrotShot and some general cleanup. Just tweaking and fixing the little things.
Re-worked sources.list to use deb.devuan.org by default but still have the gnulug
entries for folks who live in the continental US. Scrotshot is now set to open screenie
previews with Gpicview, but that behavior can be changed in the scripts and there are
comments in both (scrotshot, scrotselect) that explain how to do it. Some general cleanup
and behavior tweaks.

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