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#301 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Creating a VM using GPT partitions » 2023-11-28 19:18:14

On virtual hardware, you would boot from a virtual optical disk by attaching a bootable iso file (probably a live-iso). Then you could do whatever you need to do to the virtual hard disk. That's how it works with virtualbox and qemu. I haven't used vmware since debian etch, but I assume it will let you do the same.

I think you're worrying about a non-existent problem. If you ever need more than 2T of space, you could just attach a larger virtual disk and move part of the filesystem onto it. You don't need 2T for the operating system.

#302 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Creating a VM using GPT partitions » 2023-11-28 17:41:32

I can't check that, but I can suggest that you partition the disk manually as gpt using gdisk or gparted. Then when you run the installer, you can select the partitions you created.

If you use gpt with legacy bios boot, you need a special partition, at least 1MB size, with no filesystem on it ("unformatted" in gparted) and with a flag of ef02 (in gdisk) or bios_grub (in gparted).

#303 Re: Other Issues » Seriously? » 2023-11-27 19:05:22

Hey Amne! If you look back at the 'apt policy' output I requested, you'll see he did use "daedalus" in sources.list. For unstable, it doesn't matter if you use the codename or not. sid/ceres/unstable is always sid/ceres/unstable. Because it's always  changing, it's always the same.

#304 Re: Installation » how to get a team work between refractasnapshot and refracta2usb? » 2023-11-27 18:57:56

Unfortunately, if you run your system in a different language, refracta tools will still be in English. Sorry about that.

The two most likely ways to use refracta2usb are the following options:

ISO_!   04   Create Live-USB from unpacked CD image.
This will unpack the iso file and copy some files to a directory that you name on the usb. If the iso file is bootable by both uefi and legacy bios, both of those methods will be copied to the usb. If the iso does not boot uefi, then only the syslinux bootloader will be added.

or

ISO_2    05  Create Live-USB using intact iso and findiso boot option
This will copy the iso file to the usb and use the findiso option from live-boot to locate the .iso file and boot that. The difference is that filesystem.squashfs is not visible like it is in the ISO_1 option. It also make the intact iso file available for easily sharing it with someone.

The directory structure on the USB will be something like the following if you were to use both methods listed above. This multi-boot USB has two live systems on it. Refracta8_amd64 was added to the usb using the ISO_1 option, and jessie-ice was added using the ISO_2 method. Either system will boot on uefi or legacy bios with this setup.

	
	|── boot
	│   └── grub
	│       ├── efiboot.img
	│       ├── font.pf2
	│       ├── grub.cfg
	│       ├── splash.png
	│       └── x86_64-efi
	|── efi
	│   └── boot
	│       └── bootx64.efi
	├── jessie_ice
	│   ├── initrd.img
	│   ├── jessie-ice-template-20170103_1454.iso
	│   └── vmlinuz
	├── refracta8_amd64
	│   ├── live
	│   │   ├── filesystem.squashfs
	│   │   ├── initrd.img
	│   │   ├── memtest
	│   │   ├── vmlinuz
	│   └── pkglist_refracta8_xfce_amd64_rc1-20160923_1334
	│       └── package_list
	└── syslinux
	    ├── live.cfg[c][/c]
	    ├── (other files)

#305 Re: DIY » So i'm doing a netinstall and have a couple questions » 2023-11-27 18:30:11

You don't really need to exclude Suggests, because they don't get installed by default. I would put such lines in a file under apt.conf.d (usually 00norecommends). That way they won't get clobbered if apt.conf gets updated.

If you do a netinstall, you don't need to update and upgrade right after. You already have the latest.

#306 Re: Installation » how to get a team work between refractasnapshot and refracta2usb? » 2023-11-27 17:28:04

The reason refracta2usb didn't get into the repo is because the package isn't built the official way. Ordinarily, that's just a matter of moving a few things around inside the deb package (and using different tools to build it). The problem is the code itself is a steaming pile of spaghetti, and I am afraid to touch it. It really needs a complete overhaul.

You can find the package here:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/

#307 Re: Installation » how to get a team work between refractasnapshot and refracta2usb? » 2023-11-27 16:31:41

What does "copy snapshot to usb" mean?

refracta2usb does a few things that might be described as "copy snapshot to usb".

You can unpack the iso and set it up as a live-usb.
You can not unpack the iso and set it up as a live-usb.
You can copy a running live-usb system (that you made from a snapshot) to another usb.
And I think you can copy from a running live-CD to a usb.

What you can't do is image a usb with isohybrid like you can with dd or cat.
refracta2usb is designed to make multi-boot live-usb.
It also won't work with installer isos. Only live-isos work.

I don't understand what you are saying about your package choices. If you start with a minimal install, you can pretty much add whatever packages you like to create the system you want.

#308 Re: Documentation » How to: Devuan 5 Daedalus an pipewire » 2023-11-27 16:21:45

@stopAI
Thanks for the clear and simple instructions. It works! (in daedalus, not in chimaera)

cws999 wrote:

pavucontrol dependence pulseaudio-utils, pulseaudio-utils and pipewire-audio Install together ??

I just installed pipewire-audio and it automatically removed pulseaudio. It did not remove pavucontrol or pulseaudio-utils. Those can coexist, and they they still work.

#309 Re: Other Issues » Seriously? » 2023-11-27 09:39:13

aluma wrote:

@fsmithred
Need to say.
This happened on an experimental computer.
On the other, where all sorts of extra packets do not fall, everything is fine.

Regards.

Yeah, mixing stable and unstable is a recipe for problems. A better choice is to mix testing and unstable, and in either case, setting unstable to a lower priority would let you be more selective about which packages come from unstable.

#310 Re: Other Issues » Seriously? » 2023-11-27 01:30:23

@aluma

What do you get if you run this?

apt policy network-manager network-manager-gnome network-manager-tde

#311 Re: Installation » all the new kernel disturb some old PC's! » 2023-11-27 00:59:14

The rest of the warning about i915 probably says something about missing firmware. Installing firmware-misc-nonfree will likely fix it.

#312 Re: Other Issues » Seriously? » 2023-11-26 18:23:36

Seriously,, we got to the fifth post and nobody has yet asked why network-manager got removed?

I'll ask the OP. Why did network-manager get removed? Were there any hints or clues in the output? What is different or non-standard about your install?

FWIW, I just finished upgrading my ceres about five minutes ago, and network-manager and network-manager-gnome are still installed. This is a standard devuan desktop install with xfce, i386, no customizations.

#313 Re: Other Issues » Devuan’s architectural problems » 2023-11-24 12:00:25

dpkg and openrc are not packages that we fork, so any bug reports for those should go to debian.

#314 Re: Other Issues » Devuan’s architectural problems » 2023-11-23 19:51:44

I really don't know what they are talking about. It looks like openrc already provides its own start-stop-daemon.

apt-file list openrc
...
openrc: /lib/rc/sh/start-stop-daemon.sh

#315 Re: Installation » an idea how2 start the installation's ISO from Debian/Devuan from RAM? » 2023-11-23 01:06:10

Booting to RAM is a feature in live-boot, so it's only available in the live isos.
If you want to avoid sitting there and answering questions for the debian/devuan installer, you need to look at preseeding:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed

#316 Re: Other Issues » debian pure blends (astronomie, chemie, education, medicine, media) » 2023-11-21 12:42:31

Oh wow. It makes sense once I figured out that the list of metapackage names does not contain any metapackage names, and that the list of Descriptions does contain metapackage names.

#317 Re: Other Issues » debian pure blends (astronomie, chemie, education, medicine, media) » 2023-11-20 13:31:55

Do you have any idea how to get those to work in Debian? They claim to show a list of metapackages, but those don't seem to exist.

In general, if it's in debian, then it's in devuan. The exception being systemd and whatever requires it.

#318 Re: Installation » Refractainstaller - luks encryption » 2023-11-19 12:48:56

Good idea. I have a note in the config file that says to make sure all the necessary cryptsetup packages are installed, but I don't list them, and that note is out of sight. Also, cryptsetup-initramfs is a Suggests, not a Recommends, so you still wouldn't have gotten it if you had not excluded Recommends.

#319 Re: Devuan Derivatives » New Refracta ISOs » 2023-11-18 13:19:28

The package selection was decided years ago by group choice. I try to stick to it as much as possible.

For spell-check in other languages, you probably need to install some other packages. Maybe hunspell-fr or wfrench  or something else. I'm not sure.

To set the system time, run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata

#320 Re: Devuan » Do not install LibreOffice in Desktop Live » 2023-11-14 00:19:43

As others suggested, start with a minimal install and add what you want. If you exclude Recommends and avoid metapackages like the task-* packages, you will have a better time removing any parts you don't want. That's how I make Refracta isos https://get.refracta.org. I'm pretty sure Exe GNU/linux is also made that way (with Trinity Desktop) and some of the other devuan re-spin distros are lighter than the full task-* experience.

$ apt show task-xfce-desktop
Package: task-xfce-desktop
Version: 3.68+devuan4u1
Priority: optional
Section: tasks
Source: tasksel
Origin: Devuan
Maintainer: Devuan Dev Team <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>
Installed-Size: 9,216 B
Depends: tasksel (= 3.68+devuan4u1), task-desktop, xfce4, slim | lightdm
Recommends: xfce4-goodies, xfce4-power-manager, xfce4-terminal, mousepad, default-dbus-session-bus | dbus-session-bus, xsane, parole, quodlibet, atril, tango-icon-theme, network-manager-gnome | connman-gtk | cmst, synaptic, libreoffice-writer, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-impress, libreoffice-help-en-us, mythes-en-us, hunspell-en-us, hyphen-en-us, system-config-printer, orca, libreoffice-gtk3
Download-Size: 1,308 B
APT-Sources: http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages
Description: Xfce

#322 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] qcow2 virtual images for Daedalus » 2023-11-08 13:42:28

I don't think there will be any official virtual images. There are a couple you can find by searching the web, but it's not clear who made those images.

For a secure environment, you can just boot a live-iso in a virtual machine. Once you're there, you could also install it to a virtual hard disk and make your own place for testing apps.

#323 Re: Devuan Derivatives » New Refracta ISOs » 2023-11-08 11:23:04

The only keyserver I've found to work is keyserver.ubuntu.com - use that instead. I'll update that page.

gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 094c5620

If anyone runs into a message saying my key is expired, you need to refresh your keys.

gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --refresh-keys

#324 Re: DIY » So I guess there's no getting around having to use GTK3 and Wayland? » 2023-11-07 20:10:43

Where are you seeing wayland coming in? I just tried a simulated upgrade in a ceres VM that's a couple months behind, and it's not showing up. I also tried a simulated install of mate and it doesn't show up there, either. There are a few libwayland-somethings installed, but I assume they do nothing since I'm running xorg.

For GTK-3, I'm not worrying about it. I'm experimenting with lxqt in anticipation of GTK-4 and -5. (shudder)

#325 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Refracta created live system with auto mounted FAT32 partition » 2023-11-02 17:50:55

You might need to add the word 'skipconfig' to the boot command for the live system. It looks like that is an undocumented option.
See /lib/live/boot/9990-fstab.sh and 9990-cmdline-old

I'm away from home right now and can't test any of this. Please let me know what you find.

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