golinux wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their meltdowns and confusion as long as they take responsibility instead of imagining that it's someone else's fault.

γραφω λογον said "I also like the social contract which states, quite simply and objectively, why the goals of this project do not fit my personal needs." That seems to be a bit self-contradictory, but anyway I'd like to know where I can find the social contract. I poked around a bit, and can't seem to find it...

golinux, you can just go ahead and "ban" me if you want and it's no big deal at all.

golinux wrote:

Good to hear.  Holding on to resentment and anger is so not a good thing. 

Hehe... you're right, but there was never any resentment and anger in the first place (as you well know).

I'm just pointing out that if transparency and accountability is desired, then it's best not to cloud things.  Otherwise you may as well hit the ban button and not bother yourself with explaining why or keeping an "evidence bag".

golinux wrote:

You should see what went on over at DUF in its early days.  Complete anarchy.  DUF rose from the exodus of many veteran Debian users years ago after cynwulf himself was banned/suspended.  Still a bit of a sore spot, I think.

As number 9 of the top 10 posters, you should know.

That last statement of yours is untrue.

I've made my views on this clear by now, so at this stage I'll call it a day.

I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but I think he might have been suspended once in the past.

The membership are provided with a link to a text file, not the original thread in original form and the author cannot respond in thread, in semi-realtime.  It doesn't really help matters.

For the casual observer, it might be useful to have fungus' complaint summarised by an uninterested (third) party...  (aka "what the feck is actually going on here?").

I'm somewhat surprised that you've banned fungus.  I have to make it clear here that I strongly object to a ban based on what has been posted by this user.

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golinux wrote:

I'll answer a few of these.

2. after install, the system don't have installed "Network Manager applet" in "Xfce".

golinux wrote:

You can install it from either the Devuan specific repo or experimental.  Can't remember exactly where it's currently at.

i say on the netbook i dont have way to connect to internet [i can't install or download anything with default installation of devuan]. and because of that i must use virtualbox on my main pc, to download the packages, copy the packages to usb, and install in the netbook with dpkg

5. if is possible for the next iso, please add by default plymouth for boot process

golinux wrote:

We will never have Plymouth because it relies on systemd and therefore is on the banned package list.

i don't believe the programmers/developers can't adapt or rewrite it,

for example an older version without systemd, between years 2008 ~ 2016, for make an adapted version to OpenRC or well use the old alternatives like usplash or splashy, just adapted for openrc