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#1 Re: Devuan » the next stable » 2024-04-30 20:43:16

@golinux

Maybe we should train an AI on all yours and the other mod's responses over the years, call it GoGPT, and set it loose on the forums. Anytime weird, incoherent messes like this come up, it does the janitor work for you! XD

In seriousness though, all of these posts like this read like a poorly-trained natural language model. I hope people haven't figured out how to get bots like that on these forums...else the Dead Internet Theory is alive and well.

#3 Re: Installation » Systemd-boot(it's actually not tied to systemd) possible in devuan? » 2024-03-10 01:06:40

If I understood correctly, I was told on another forums, that Debian kernel in the future may lack support for non UEFI mode of booting?

@Bimon can you elaborate on this? Maybe share a source?

#4 Re: Installation » upgrade Chimaera with Daedelus? » 2024-02-22 01:12:01

@GlennW This is because you need to do one of two things, which I completely forgot to add to the above:

In order to NOT have issues with the untrusted CDROM source (Neither Debian nor Devuan can furnish release files in them, it would be pointless since they are static), you have to do one of the following...

When you update with apt, do

sudo apt update --allow-insecure-repositories

OR, alternatively, in /etc/apt/sources.list, change the cdrom entry from

deb cdrom_source_name daedalus main 

to

deb [trusted=yes] cdrom_source_name daedalus main

I hope this helps! It will not cover all of your packages if you installed something outside of the CDROM from chimaera, but even if you only use this in conjunction with internet access on the actual daedalus repos, it can STILL save you trouble by not having to waste bandwidth on the packages you already have stored on the CDROM.

I should also mention that the above about saving bandwidth is also applicable to the server and netinstall ISO's, you can use those too!

#5 Re: Installation » upgrade Chimaera with Daedelus? » 2024-02-21 13:51:25

While you cannot directly boot the CDROM and upgrade with it, you CAN upgrade your packages to a limited extent with it.
The following assumes you have the 4.5GB Desktop ISO, and that you have NOT added packages beyond what was available in Chimaera's Desktop ISO.

(I am putting this here in the hopes that others who look at this may find it helpful in some way)

Run the following:

sudo apt-cdrom add

from here, you will be prompted to insert the DVD into the DVD drive, at this point you should do so. If it is NOT on a DVD, but rather a flash drive, you need to open another terminal and run the following BEFORE proceeding further with apt-cdrom:

sudo mount /dev/(your usb) /media/cdrom 

if that directory does not exist, create it with:

sudo mkdir /media/cdrom

and then mount the usb. Go back to the terminal that has apt-cdrom running, and press enter.

By this point, apt-cdrom will likely register the CDROM. From here, do:

sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list

and ensure ALL Chimaera sources are disabled. After finishing with nano, and saving the new sources.list, run:

sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade

and look over what all will be upgraded and/or removed. If all looks good, you can press enter to proceed. From there, your system should upgrade, and once complete, a simple reboot will be sufficient to boot into your new Daedalus system.

#6 Re: Devuan Derivatives » antiX 23.1 "init-diversity" edition » 2024-02-20 15:14:38

This is the first I've seen of any real experimentation with s6 beyond GNUinos, this should be pretty interesting...maybe someday it'll be solid enough to upstream to Devuan? That'd be cool.

#7 Re: ARM Builds » Raspberry Pi 5 » 2024-01-24 22:03:56

@golinux Those images are only good up to the Raspberry Pi 4 last I looked.

To the OP, The raspberry Pi 5 *shouldn't* need any special firmware anymore to boot, its all stored on the on-board ROM now. So, potentially, the RPi4 image should/could work, though performance may not be optimal without a kernel built specially for the board.

#8 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » suspend with nvidia drivers » 2024-01-11 02:15:58

NVIDIA has historically not played nice with suspend. I have an old T61p that has NVIDIA graphics, and it doesn't suspend correctly, either.

#9 Re: Installation » packagemanagement and dependencies - xfce4 setup does not install xorg » 2024-01-11 02:13:48

if the xfce4 metapackage doesn't bring that in, you may want to file a bug report with Debian. IIRC Devuan doesn't modify that package from upstream.

#10 Re: News & Announcements » The dev1galaxy.org (almost) No Code of Conduct » 2024-01-11 02:12:09

Responsible behaviour based on a foundation of mutual respect is expected from visitors to this forum.

I second this version

#11 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Daedalus silences PC speaker » 2023-12-30 21:29:09

check under /etc/modprobe.d and see if anything has blacklisted the pcspkr module

#12 Re: Devuan » Debian Farm? » 2023-12-30 02:01:21

quickfur wrote:

Very disappointed with the direction Ubuntu is moving in.

My first distro was Ubuntu 18.04. I have fond memories of her, genuinely, and i owe what I know today to that first experience. But alas, it also made me understand why systemd was so terrible, and regarding Ubuntu she has gone down the shitter the last two major releases. Its a sad, sad state.

#13 Re: Off-topic » "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news » 2023-12-29 23:32:58

As of now the only thing that would need to be provided by a downstream distro is the kernel, as it seems. But time will tell how bad the damage will be, Trixie still hasn't even been released.

#15 Re: DIY » Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment » 2023-12-24 17:02:22

Would be amazing if you forked mint-menu (AKA MATE Advanced Menu) or brisk-menu as well, to go alongside her. She'd be unstoppable then! And it wouldn't have that awful regression where mint-menu can no longer have a custom icon.

#16 Re: News & Announcements » Debian and 32-bit x86 » 2023-12-22 01:33:00

^I'd just like to pitch in to the above and add, so does Void Linux

#17 Re: News & Announcements » Debian and 32-bit x86 » 2023-12-20 12:54:02

@aluma sometimes *a* carton of cigarettes, depending on where you look. You have a good point, for sure. And of course, nothing lasts forever. I keep my i386 machines around in order to have the tooling necessary to do data recovery and other things on other i386 machines that pass by me from various people. But, there again, do I really need the latest and greatest just for that? Its not as if installs from yore aren't still on some level inter-operable with modern installs, when push comes to shove, even in  a post-sysv and post-x11 world.

I guess, deep down, its just a worry in the back of my mind that Debian will go the way of Ubuntu (snaps, etc.). I know that's highly unlikely, as it would be the ultimate identity death of Debian, but the thought still scares me.

#18 Re: News & Announcements » Debian and 32-bit x86 » 2023-12-20 12:15:27

I suppose this was bound to happen eventually, but admittedly I was not expecting this to happen this quickly. The last 686 CPUs were released in 2006, and the latter-day ones I have are still reasonably capable for their age...

Interestingly, having read the actual Debian announcement, they do not plan to make it a partial architecture like Ubuntu does -that's up to the package maintainers themselves. And from the sound of it, i386 could also possibly get relegated to the Ports branch. With this in mind, I feel like *maybe* some more-determined distros could continue i386 support at least for Trixie, depending on how bad things get between now and release. Best (read: highly unlikely) case scenario, all they need to supply is a kernel. Not a difficult task, by any means. More Likely case scenario: quite a few packages will bite the dust between now and then, and would need to be re-compiled, if they still can be. I get a feeling the browsers will be the first to go. the feasibility of such an endeavor goes back to the question of: What's the damage gonna be, come release time?

As long as the Init Diversity Team isn't abolished, and Snaps don't become the new default in Debian, we should be ok for now. Though it might be time for Devuan to give a bit more love to its other ports, in i386s' place...

#19 Re: Devuan » Questions about Devuan before switching » 2023-12-08 16:03:52

GNOME is near-fully functional as of Daedalus, KDE has been for a while. I have used KDE with wayland on Devuan before, and at the very least on my Thinkpad T430s, it hasn't been an issue. I don't foresee your AMD GPU being an issue, but I'm not sure. Isn't ROCM also used for AI acceleration?

#20 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-12-03 04:26:03

golinux wrote:

Anyone seriously interested in engaging with Devuan should monitor those sources. It is that simple.

Don't forget http://deb.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt , so people have a sense of what packages might be worth making compatibility packages/patches for

#21 Re: Off-topic » make desktop looks like windows 11 » 2023-11-24 00:26:42

@WDstudios God, I miss the Aero era...didn't have the Fischer-price coloring of XP, but didn't have the sterile and soulless theme of windows 10 either. It had life! KDE can mimic this somewhat, with oxygen, but its still not even close to perfect....XFCE with Bluebird is a little bit better, IMO

#22 Re: Other Issues » debian pure blends (astronomie, chemie, education, medicine, media) » 2023-11-21 00:43:42

@fsmithred I have tested these packages, all of them work except for freedombox, due to cockpit being dependent on systemd. The only outstanding issue for the others is that it sports Debian's artwork, but that's purely cosmetic.

#23 Re: Freedom Hacks » Anyone know how to make a usb mouse work? » 2023-11-18 22:49:11

well, desktop environment can make a pretty big difference. Have you checked to see if the USB mouse works at the greeter? (If its a mouse-enabled greeter like slick or sddm?) What DE are you using?

#24 Re: Installation » Systemd-boot(it's actually not tied to systemd) possible in devuan? » 2023-11-18 13:07:56

Just as a follow-up, after reading up on it a bit and furthering my understanding of how banned packages work, it seems I was confused on how the sources worked.  so my last comment was right -a shim would be needed for the "Kernel-install" function. But it seems a simple shim would be all that's needed, at least as a short-term solution. So perhaps this  isn't as much of a challenge as i thought...

#25 Re: Devuan » The insanity continues... BSOD coming to a systemd near you? » 2023-11-16 15:02:13

FM81 wrote:

Systemd is a cool operating system. If only the annoying linux substructure wouldn't exist ...

https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Systemd
We laugh, but this article is getting closer and closer to reality

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