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Thank you guys, apparently it is supported:
sudo iw list | grep AP
* AP
* AP/VLAN
* AP/VLAN
Driver supports full state transitions for AP/GO clients
* AP: 0x00 0x10 0x20 0x30 0x40 0x50 0x60 0x70 0x80 0x90 0xa0 0xb0 0xc0 0xd0 0xe0 0xf0
* AP/VLAN: 0x00 0x10 0x20 0x30 0x40 0x50 0x60 0x70 0x80 0x90 0xa0 0xb0 0xc0 0xd0 0xe0 0xf0
* AP: 0x00 0x20 0x40 0xa0 0xb0 0xc0 0xd0
* AP/VLAN: 0x00 0x20 0x40 0xa0 0xb0 0xc0 0xd0
However I am not sure I want go that route, it is easier using my phone as access point and connect my workstation to the laptop through RDP...
Hi There,
I am trying to set up an hotspot with my laptop through the nm-applet but it doesn't work.
In my memories there were plenty of articles about hotspot and nm-applet but looks like all them were cannibalized by the latest Ubuntu/Gnome3...
I wonder if this is actually possible with the default Xfce4 and desktop, plus nm-applet... I have runit as init system but if I need to change to openrc, for instance, I am willing to make this change.
May anyone of you guide me through this process?
Thanks in advance!
I reply to myself... chrony just fixed the problem...
Now I am wondering why I didn't have anything to synchronize the clock... 🤔
Hi guys,
my Devuan clock is several minutes forward and I'd like to fix it.
I use runit as init and I noticed that I don't have ntp service running:
ls /etc/runit/runsvdir/current/
anacron@ dbus@ dhclient@ getty-tty1@ getty-tty4@ getty-ttyS0@ slim@
cron@ dbus.dep-fixer@ elogind@ getty-tty2@ getty-tty5@ lightdm@ ssh@
cups@ default-syslog@ exim4@ getty-tty3@ getty-tty6@ rsyslog@
Perhaps was removed and I didn't notice it.
Should I install something like chrony to fix it?
Thanks!
Oh boy...
I was totally convinced that Debian was interested in keeping alive the legacy of a non-systemd distribution, this is something that a Devuan folk wrote me on this very forum, not in my terms but there were some collaboration and contribution upstream to make the work on Devuan easier and simultaneously allowing Debian to change init effortlessly.
Dreams vs Reality: 0 - 10 👊
ouch... 🤕
Apparently at Debian are trying to push systemd-boot (a.k.a. gummy-boot)…
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Debian-Ex … stemd-boot
How this is going to affect the Devuan project?
I had intended that relationship between Debian and Devuan where friendly, but pushing forward systemd-boot is not being "Devuan Friendly" 😩
Not sure whats wrong with XFCE4 but I use daily Window Manager and I really enjoy, although is hard to customize and GTK3/4 apps did not fits well ... If you like something that does a little bit more than a drawing a window you may also try Fluxbox.
Poor Debian constantly grabbed in the middle of Boogle and Cononical businesses... 😖
My (old) laptop was already slow back to that time. I bought it just because was one the very first shipped with Linux (SLES) in Italy and was cheap too. Today is useless, even with 6GB of RAM and a SSD, the CPU is a crap. Nothing to add.
With your think pad you got a decent hardware, congrats!
I have no objection at all to someone using any programs.
But the essence of my thread is that with a weak processor the OS turns into a single-tasking, or rather single-window, if we mean browsers.
And no “light” DEs, browsers, etc. things won't help. If you want normal work, you will have to pay for a more productive computer.
Any recent celeron is better than your cpu, I still have a laptop with an E-450 and performs worse than the ROC-RK3328-CC that I am using to writing this reply with LibreWolf.
Auto quote myself about the RK3328:
What can I do with it?
I do almost anything, and with the Renegade board I can do even more. Although this board support video acceleration your phone is better suited for media consuming. Anyway with my first prototype and the last Stealthbox I was able to do almost anything, a great improvement was achieved whan I was able to boost the tethering allowing me to load heavy-weight website.
This is what it was possible doing with the current Stealthbox and the prototype:
Internet searches ✅
Email reading ✅ (with client, but with 4GB and booster also webmail)
Online banking and bills ✅
Mastodon ✅
Diaspora ✅
Fora (forums) ✅
Amazon, Target, Walmart etc ✅ (with tethering booster)
Projects with Inkscape ✅
Projects with Gimp ✅
LibreOffice ❓ (didn't tested but with 4GB I believe it is feasible)
Abiword ✅
Text Editor ✅
Calibre and connecting a Kindle ✅
Youtube/Invidious/Videos ✅❗(no audio)
Git and Webdav ✅
Compile light software ✅
Netflix/Spotify/etc. ❌ (no DRM)
https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/omg.pebca … ox-faq.gmi
I recently bought a second-hand crapbook (Asus L210MA) for less than $60 and compared with this board and the old laptop looks like a Ferrari.
https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/omg.pebca … vuan-5.gmi
On both systems the disk is encrypted therefore extra workload to do in real time, and they works just fine.
Modern internet is a shit, and webpages are a pile of crap, that's why we publish our content on Gemini. Try Lagrange on your computer and see how fantastic is browsing the Geminispace.
Some friends of mine are developing this:
https://lab.abiscuola.com/irctk/dir?ci=tip
Otherwise I use catgirl over the terminal...
I have a laptop with a slightly better APU (2011), and it performs worst than an experimental project I am doing with a cheap ARM SBC based on a RK3328 Rockchip SOC (2016).
Those APUs were just crappy.
On that board I am using LibreWolf, however to reduce dramatically the CPU consuming I use the following extensions:
Ublock-origin (default in LibreWolf)
I used this basic workaround:
Hi Devuanizers,
I'd like to share this Gemlog I wrote that is shaped around Devuan:
HTTP:
https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/omg.pebca … negade.gmi
GEMINI:
gemini://omg.pebcak.club/~freezr/gemlog/2023-12-06-stealthbox-with-devuan-and-libre-computer-renegade.gmi
🤓
I want to confirm that with netplug is working very well!
If I unplug the cable the connection does not drop at all, looks like magic!
The usb0 interface must be raised up manually and even if you unplug it you must run again dhclient usb0 but this is just fine, not a big a deal at all!
What is really working poorly is ifplugd, it dramatically slows down the boot process and when you unplug and plug again the cable nothing happens I have to manually force the interfaces to regain their status...
Avoid to use ifplugd for me it is just better!
Good news!!!
I fixed it! 🍾
Unfortunately runit couldn't handle properly this situation but OpenRC is doing its job magnificently!!!
Guys,
I put my guide offline because some pebcak, hopefully I might have fixed them, I will restore the guide when I got stable results! Sorry about that! 😫
Apparently switching on OpenRC fixed the problem, it is about 10" pinging the board from the client and the connection is just stable...
On my Crapbook Devuan use runit on a eMMC module as well, perhaps the default installations brought with itself other packages that doing a manual bootstrap I missed when I made the migration from Debian to Devuan.
Maybe now those packages ifplugd and netplug might finally work! 🤔
Hi guys,
this is something unexpected and it is driving me crazy...
After migrating from Debian to Devuan on the ROC-RK3328-CC the network interfaces stopped working properly.
With the Debian installation everything went, I guess systemd has a lot of tricks to use, but with my migration using runit I am having a lot of headache.
This is the dmesg log:
sudo dmesg | grep eth0
[ 3.848306] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: Register MEM_TYPE_PAGE_POOL RxQ-0
[ 3.850388] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: PHY [stmmac-0:00] driver [RTL8211E Gigabit Ethernet] (irq=POLL)
[ 3.858623] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: No Safety Features support found
[ 3.858816] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: PTP not supported by HW
[ 3.859643] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: configuring for phy/rgmii link mode
[ 6.911578] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx
[ 6.911669] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[ 32.460881] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: Link is Down
[ 34.572069] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: Register MEM_TYPE_PAGE_POOL RxQ-0
[ 34.598686] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: PHY [stmmac-0:00] driver [RTL8211E Gigabit Ethernet] (irq=POLL)
[ 34.614080] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: No Safety Features support found
[ 34.622853] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: PTP not supported by HW
[ 34.629805] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: configuring for phy/rgmii link mode
[ 37.695512] rk_gmac-dwmac ff540000.ethernet eth0: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx
It is active but it got disconnected:
ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
link/ether f6:8a:73:c2:25:2d brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: usb0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether 42:b9:69:8d:26:76 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.97.141/24 brd 192.168.97.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute usb0
valid_lft 3425sec preferred_lft 3425sec
inet6 2607:fb90:79b4:95d:8c39:304d:26d1:eff5/64 scope global dynamic noprefixroute
valid_lft 7038sec preferred_lft 7038sec
inet6 fe80::4ed8:1715:d765:6eb0/64 scope link noprefixroute
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
As a matter of fact it should have assigned a static IP:
source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
## CROSS CABLE SETUP: ETH0
auto eth0
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 10.0.10.3/24
netmask 255.255.255.0
#gateway 10.0.10.254
# DHCP SETUP: USB0
# auto usb0
allow-hotplug usb0
iface usb0 inet dhcp
Actually I can connect through SSH but after 30" more or less, it drops and you need to raise up it manually but you see that is something is not quite right:
sudo ifdown eth0
RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
anyway:
sudo ifup eth0
ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
link/ether f6:8a:73:c2:25:2d brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 10.0.10.3/24 brd 10.0.10.255 scope global eth0
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: usb0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether 42:b9:69:8d:26:76 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.97.141/24 brd 192.168.97.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute usb0
valid_lft 2866sec preferred_lft 2866sec
inet6 2607:fb90:79b4:95d:8c39:304d:26d1:eff5/64 scope global dynamic noprefixroute
valid_lft 7029sec preferred_lft 7029sec
inet6 fe80::4ed8:1715:d765:6eb0/64 scope link noprefixroute
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
But I can't ping the guest (10.0.10.1):
ping 10.0.10.1
PING 10.0.10.1 (10.0.10.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- 10.0.10.1 ping statistics ---
111 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 112644ms
Because the inteface wasn't properly raised up:
sudo ifconfig
eth0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether f6:8a:73:c2:25:2d txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 285 bytes 25018 (24.4 KiB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 110 bytes 17164 (16.7 KiB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
device interrupt 32
I believe that runit it is not working properly and perhaps I am missing some packages because on my Crapbook where I have a full installation with runit as well everything work very smooth.
I tried to use ifplugd and netplug but both weren't able to raise the connection.
I tried to let the interfaces being managed by Network-Manger as on my Crapbook but it didn't work out.
Now my last options available is change init system for something more reliable as sysv-init, and if this doesn't work as well is very shameful because I failed totally with this board... 😩
This config is designed to specifically work with IWD. It should work like the original script if you are using ethernet (I made it detect if the interface is wireless or not.)
Needless to say that with the default script it doesn't work either.
Are you using IWD?
Hi,
I don't use IWD only interfaces config file.
Did you remove allow-hotplug?
Both auto and allow-hotplug, should I restore auto instead?
Did you make sure not to use IWD's built-in DHCP client?
IWD is not installed!
Did you modify /etc/netplug/netplug?
Yes I did, using the configuration you shared!
I don't actually need the wifi I need it for the eth0, but I guess that if doesn't work is the same for the others, isn't it?
Thanks!
Hi guys,
Is there available any boot process analyzer that is not systemd-bootchart?
thanks 🙏
Oh my gosh it is very resilient! 🤨
apt list --installed | grep systemd
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
libsystemd-shared/stable,now 252.17-1~deb12u1 arm64 [installed]
apt purge libsystemd-shared -s
NOTE: This is only a simulation!
apt needs root privileges for real execution.
Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libsystemd-shared*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Purg libsystemd-shared [252.17-1~deb12u1]
It can be removed without fear! 💪
In your last command you have > where a | should be...
Thanks you're right... Now I am scared... 😫
Apparently this workaround resolved the issue:
sudo aptitude install elogind libpam-elogind policykit-1 --without-recommends
The following NEW packages will be installed:
elogind libduktape207{a} libelogind0{a} libpam-elogind{b}
libpolkit-agent-1-0{a} libpolkit-gobject-1-0{a}
libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0{a} pkexec{a} policykit-1
polkitd{a} sgml-base{a} xml-core{a}
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
gnome-flashback gnome-shell lxpolkit lxqt-policykit
mate-polkit phosh policykit-1-gnome polkit-kde-agent-1
polkitd-pkla ukui-polkit
0 packages upgraded, 12 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,418 kB of archives. After unpacking 5,246 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
dummy-logind : Conflicts: logind which is a virtual package, provided by:
- libpam-elogind (246.10-5), but 246.10-5 is to be installed
- dummy-logind (246.10-5), but 246.10-5 is installed
libpam-elogind : Depends: libelogind-compat but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
1) dummy-logind [246.10-5 (now, stable)]
2) libsystemd0 [252.17-1~deb12u1 (now, stable)]
Install the following packages:
3) libelogind-compat [246.10-5 (stable)]
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] y
The following NEW packages will be installed:
elogind libduktape207{a} libelogind-compat{a} libelogind0{a}
libpam-elogind libpolkit-agent-1-0{a}
libpolkit-gobject-1-0{a} libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0{a}
pkexec{a} policykit-1 polkitd{a} sgml-base{a} xml-core{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
dummy-logind{a} libsystemd0{a}
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
gnome-flashback gnome-shell lxpolkit lxqt-policykit
mate-polkit phosh policykit-1-gnome polkit-kde-agent-1
polkitd-pkla ukui-polkit
0 packages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,425 kB of archives. After unpacking 4,307 kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
But:
util-linux depends on libsystemd0.
ppp depends on libsystemd0.
lvm2 depends on libsystemd0 (>= 233).
libwebkit2gtk-4.1-0:arm64 depends on libsystemd0.
libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:arm64 depends on libsystemd0.
libvte-2.91-0:arm64 depends on libsystemd0 (>= 220).
libseat1:arm64 depends on libsystemd0 (>= 238).
libpulse0:arm64 depends on libsystemd0.
liblvm2cmd2.03:arm64 depends on libsystemd0 (>= 233).
libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1-0:arm64 depends on libsystemd0.
libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18:arm64 depends on libsystemd0.
libgnome-desktop-3-20:arm64 depends on libsystemd0.
gnome-keyring depends on libsystemd0.
gcr depends on libsystemd0.
bsdutils depends on libsystemd0.
at-spi2-core depends on libsystemd0.
Thus:
sudo aptitude reinstall ppp lvm2 libwebkit2gtk-4.1-0 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 libvte-2.91-0 libseat1 libpulse0 liblvm2cmd2.03 libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1-0 libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 libgnome-desktop-3-20 gnome-keyring gcr at-spi2-core cryptsetup cryptsetup-initramfs dropbear-initramfs
util-linux and bsd-utils are currently missing on devuan:
sudo apt reinstall util-linux bsdutils
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Reinstallation of util-linux is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
Reinstallation of bsdutils is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
apt-cache policy util-linux bsdutils
util-linux:
Installed: 2.38.1-5+b1
Candidate: 2.38.1-5+b1
Version table:
*** 2.38.1-5+b1 100
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2.38.1-5devuan1+b1 500
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main arm64 Packages
bsdutils:
Installed: 1:2.38.1-5+b1
Candidate: 1:2.38.1-5+b1
Version table:
*** 1:2.38.1-5+b1 100
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
1:2.38.1-5devuan1+b1 500
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main arm64 Packages
Anyway:
sudo apt install -f -s
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[UPDATE] And still there 😑
apt list --installed | grep systemd
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
libsystemd-shared/stable,now 252.17-1~deb12u1 arm64 [installed]