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#1 Re: Documentation » after Refracta-Snapshot... » Yesterday 19:03:04

If you boot a live-usb, refractainstaller will install the running system. It doesn't need to ask for an iso.

~/.cache is in the rsync excludes list. If yours got copied, then something is wrong. Check the excludes list - /usr/lib/refractasnapshot/snapshot_excludes.list and make sure other excluded items did not get copied. Add anything else here that you want excluded.

In the config file, /etc/refractasnapshot.conf are some options for using compression to make the iso file smaller. You might want to uncomment one of them if you have not already done so. (look for mksq_opt)

You should be able to install to a partition on another usb stick just the same as if you installed to a partition on a hard disk.

I would make a plain backup of my important files without trying to squeeze them into an iso file.

#2 Re: DIY » Chimaera Minimal Live ISO Customization Question » 2023-03-29 20:49:15

I know two ways to make a live-iso that boots legacy bios or uefi.
1. live-sdk
2. refractasnapshot
The latter is easier - it makes a bootable live-iso copy of your installed system. That could be a hardware install or a VM.

#3 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Can't update firefox-esr from v91.13.0; problem or intended behaviour? » 2023-03-29 15:57:57

Make sure you have a line for chimaera-security in /etc/apt/sources.list

deb chimaera-security main

You can add 'contrib' and 'non-free' to the end of that line if you have those repos enabled on your other line(s).

Post your sources.list here if you're not sure.

#4 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Grub problem after installing new Kernel » 2023-03-29 15:41:29

Run these commands at the grub prompt. Adjust the device names if I guessed wrong. Use tab-completion to get the version strings on kernel and initrd. Last command is 'boot' and press ENTER (or maybe ctrl-x).

set root=(hd3,msdos1)     # assuming the /boot partition is sdc1
linux /vmlinuz-<version> ro root=/dev/sdc2     # assuming the root partition is sdc2
initrd /initrd.img-<version>

After you boot into the system, get a root terminal and run update-grub That should create a new boot menu.

#5 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta tools on Debian issue » 2023-03-28 12:26:26

Both accounts should have been copied into the iso, but the default setting is to boot to the primary user (uid:gid 1000:1000).

To boot to the other user with the iso you already made, edit the boot screen to add username=<whatever the other user's name is>
(Press TAB to edit bios boot menu, press e to edit uefi boot menu)

To make an iso that  boots to the second user by default, edit /etc/refractasnapshot.conf to set the desired username.

#6 Re: Devuan » no automatic internet connection (wired) after chimaera update any mor » 2023-03-17 23:38:49

I'm guessing that you didn't have the wicd metapackage installed. If you did have it, you would have automatically gotten network-manager to replace it. You can bring up the wired connection and install n-m with the following commands (as root).

dhclient eth0
apt update
apt install network-manager-gnome

Or, if you don't want a gui program for connecting to the network, you could just edit /etc/network/interfaces and add the following:

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

You can do one or the other, but don't do both of those things.

#7 Documentation » Encrypted lvm instruction video » 2023-03-16 14:57:37

Replies: 0

This video shows a path through the maze of debian-installer to make an encrypted lvm install. Devuan uses the debian-installer with a few modifications. The partitioning is the same in both.

#8 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Calibre qt issue » 2023-03-12 14:50:43

Maybe some qt package is missing. Here's what I have installed that has qt in the name (or description)
Compare what's in your laptop to this list or one like this from your desktop.

$ dpkg -l |grep qt
ii  libaudqt2:amd64                      4.0.5-1                                amd64        audacious media player (libaudqt shared library)
ii  libqt5core5a:amd64                   5.15.2+dfsg-9                          amd64        Qt 5 core module
ii  libqt5dbus5:amd64                    5.15.2+dfsg-9                          amd64        Qt 5 D-Bus module
ii  libqt5designer5:amd64                5.15.2-5                               amd64        Qt 5 designer module
ii  libqt5gui5:amd64                     5.15.2+dfsg-9                          amd64        Qt 5 GUI module
ii  libqt5help5:amd64                    5.15.2-5                               amd64        Qt 5 help module
ii  libqt5multimedia5:amd64              5.15.2-3                               amd64        Qt 5 Multimedia module
ii  libqt5network5:amd64                 5.15.2+dfsg-9                          amd64        Qt 5 network module
ii  libqt5opengl5:amd64                  5.15.2+dfsg-9                          amd64        Qt 5 OpenGL module
ii  libqt5positioning5:amd64             5.15.2+dfsg-2                          amd64        Qt Positioning module
ii  libqt5printsupport5:amd64            5.15.2+dfsg-9                          amd64        Qt 5 print support module
ii  libqt5qml5:amd64                     5.15.2+dfsg-6                          amd64        Qt 5 QML module
ii  libqt5qmlmodels5:amd64               5.15.2+dfsg-6                          amd64        Qt 5 QML Models library
ii  libqt5quick5:amd64                   5.15.2+dfsg-6                          amd64        Qt 5 Quick library
ii  libqt5quickwidgets5:amd64            5.15.2+dfsg-6                          amd64        Qt 5 Quick Widgets library
ii  libqt5sql5:amd64                     5.15.2+dfsg-9                          amd64        Qt 5 SQL module
ii  libqt5svg5:amd64                     5.15.2-3                               amd64        Qt 5 SVG module
ii  libqt5test5:amd64                    5.15.2+dfsg-9                          amd64        Qt 5 test module
ii  libqt5webchannel5:amd64              5.15.2-2                               amd64        Web communication library for Qt
ii  libqt5webengine-data                 5.15.2+dfsg-3                          all          Web content engine library for Qt - Data
ii  libqt5webengine5:amd64               5.15.2+dfsg-3                          amd64        Web content engine library for Qt
ii  libqt5webenginecore5:amd64           5.15.2+dfsg-3                          amd64        Web content engine library for Qt - Core
ii  libqt5webenginewidgets5:amd64        5.15.2+dfsg-3                          amd64        Web content engine library for Qt - Widget
ii  libqt5widgets5:amd64                 5.15.2+dfsg-9                          amd64        Qt 5 widgets module
ii  libqt5x11extras5:amd64               5.15.2-2                               amd64        Qt 5 X11 extras
ii  libqt5xml5:amd64                     5.15.2+dfsg-9                          amd64        Qt 5 XML module
ii  python3-pyqt5                        5.15.2+dfsg-3                          amd64        Python 3 bindings for Qt5
ii  python3-pyqt5.qtsvg                  5.15.2+dfsg-3                          amd64        Python 3 bindings for Qt5's SVG module
ii  python3-pyqt5.qtwebchannel           5.15.2+dfsg-3                          amd64        Python 3 bindings for Qt5's WebChannel module
ii  python3-pyqt5.qtwebengine            5.15.2-2                               amd64        Python 3 bindings for Qt5's WebEngine module
ii  python3-pyqt5.sip                    12.8.1-1+b2                            amd64        runtime module for Python extensions using SIP
ii  qt5-image-formats-plugins:amd64      5.15.2-2                               amd64        Qt 5 Image Formats module
ii  vlc-plugin-qt:amd64                  3.0.18-0+deb11u1                       amd64        multimedia player and streamer (Qt plugin)

#9 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] unplugged ssd grub problem...HELP! » 2023-03-12 14:46:46

To change an installed system from sysvinit to runit:

apt install runit-init

Follow any instructions on the screen and then reboot.

There's also a new package that has some runit scripts. See this post:

#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Calibre qt issue » 2023-03-10 13:52:27

What do "complete load" and "complete reload" mean?

Did you run 'apt update' and 'apt upgrade' before installing calibre?

What is different between the two installations? Calibre runs fine on my chimaera laptop.

#11 Re: Devuan Derivatives » big memory stick 2 TB and refracta (or an other Devuan real or derivat » 2023-03-03 22:49:44

If you want a regular installation on the new stick, you can treat it like a hard drive. Partition it with gparted and then just install to that drive with refractainstaller. If you want to be able to use that stick on other computers, you'll need to make sure there's a bootloader on it. (and maybe a few other things to do.)

If you want a live-usb with persistence, I recommend using refracta2usb so that you can create a multi-boot live-usb with multiple persistent volumes (either partitions or loopback files). In that case, make the first partition fat32 and big enough to hold all the live-isos you want to use. And then make at least one linux partition for the persistent volume(s).

#12 Re: DIY » Regarding making cronie jobs, » 2023-03-03 12:53:49

The scripts in /etc/cron.* and /etc/rc.local will run as root. Any that you set in your desktop startup apps will run as your user.

#13 Re: DIY » Regarding making cronie jobs, » 2023-03-01 15:46:16

For every hour, you could put a script in /etc/cron.hourly.
For running something upon login, you would probably put it in some file that gets sourced at login or in your desktop's startup apps. (e.g. .bashrc, .profile, .xsettings, or other. I'm not sure what's most appropriate.)
For running something when you boot up, you could put commands in /etc/rc.local.

#14 Re: Installation » GRUB Grief » 2023-02-25 14:28:28

If the ubuntu root filesystem is encrypted, then os-prober in chimaera won't see it. Likewise, os-prober in ubuntu won't see the encrypted devuan. You will have to manually create a menuentry in ubuntu for the chimaera installation.

In ubuntu, put something like this in /etc/grub.d/40_custom and then run update-grub

menuentry 'Devuan' {
set root=(hd1,msdos1)
linux /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/mapper/your-vg-lg-name
initrd /initrd.img

(hd1,msdos1) assumes that the /boot partition is the first partition on the second hard drive and it has msdos partition table.
/dev/mapper/your-vg-lg-name is the name of the logical volume that holds devuan's root filesystem.

If you switch the order of the hard drives permanently, either through bios settings or opening the box and switching cables, you could do the above procedure in devuan to get a menu entry for the encrypted ubuntu. (If it's not encrypted, then running os-prober should automatically add an entry for it.)

#15 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] yt-dlp updated on GitHub but not Devuan » 2023-02-21 13:42:50

I didn't know yt-dlp was in the repo. The backports version is the same as what's in ceres/sid now, so there's nothing new to backport.

I keep a copy of the script in my user's bin/ and I have a script to wget the latest version from git. Apparently, that script is not needed - you should be able to run yt-dlp -U to update to the latest.

#16 Re: Devuan » Increasing need for RAM » 2023-02-19 22:20:08

jue-gen wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

amd64 devuan desktop-live isos (xfce) in qemu with 3G ram. ...

Each release uses more resources. Run to see that each program uses more resources in each release. I've been watching this for over 20 years and it's consistent.

Yes, but now it would be interesting to know if 3G ram uses less memory than 8G ram or 16G ram or 32G ram.

Chimaera with 2G and 5G:

               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            1982         332        1013          15         636        1492
Swap:              0           0           0
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            4932         320        3975          15         636        4379
Swap:              0           0           0

Daedalus with 2G and 5G:

               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            1974         546         765          14         828        1427
Swap:              0           0           0
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            4924         656        3681          14         828        4268
Swap:              0           0           0

#17 Re: Devuan » Increasing need for RAM » 2023-02-19 10:40:29

amd64 devuan desktop-live isos (xfce) in qemu with 3G ram.


              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           3002         273        1963          15         766        2561
Swap:             0           0           0


               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            2987         343        2004          15         639        2482
Swap:              0           0           0


               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            2979         557        1761          14         830        2422
Swap:              0           0           0

Each release uses more resources. Run to see that each program uses more resources in each release. I've been watching this for over 20 years and it's consistent.

#18 Re: News & Announcements » X.Org Security Advisory: Security issue in the X server » 2023-02-16 12:10:45

jue-gen wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

... The default Xfce desktop for Devuan uses SLiM or LightDM and both run X under the root user so both are vulnerable to this exploit.

Starting the desktop via GDM or startx will cause X to be run under the normal user and so avoid this vulnerability completely. ... )

Perhaps I have not understood the problem correctly. SLiM or LightDM is clear. But I am thinking about it:
How is it with SDDM?
When I start Plasma Wayland, that is o.k.
But if I start e.g. LXDE with SDDM, how is that.

lxdm and sddm both run X as root. To check that, run

ps aux |grep X

#19 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how report a bug? » 2023-02-15 12:36:14

I thought reportbug was fixed, but I don't know for sure. I always use email to report bugs.
Send email to
Subject line should be descriptive
First line of bug should have:

Package: <packagename>

And then the body of the email with explanation of the problem.

It's also not a bad idea to report the problem here first, in case it's not really a bug.

Instructions are here:

#20 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown encrypted LVM on Beowulf » 2023-02-13 16:37:59

New cryptsetup-modified-functions is now in ceres. It'll migrate down to daedalus next week. I know that it installs correctly, but I can't test to see if it does what it's supposed to do. Please test and let me know. Thanks.

$ apt policy cryptsetup-modified-functions
  Installed: 2023.02.12
  Candidate: 2023.02.12
  Version table:
 *** 2023.02.12 100
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     23.02.12 10
         10 ceres/main amd64 Packages

Also, I noticed that this section still has a long timeout loop. In the past, I reduced the timeout to 1, I think. Is it still a problem?

_do_stop_remove() {
    local name="$1" i rv=0
    for i in 1 2 4 8 16 32; do
        remove_mapping "$name" 3<&- && break || rv=$?
        if [ $rv -eq 1 ] || [ $rv -eq 2 -a $i -gt 16 ]; then
            log_action_end_msg $rv
        log_action_cont_msg "$name busy..."
        sleep $i

#21 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown encrypted LVM on Beowulf » 2023-02-11 23:01:54

I did two installs today with devuan_daedalus_5.0.preview-20230206_amd64_netinstall.iso.

One had an encrypted root partition and unencrypted /boot partition.
The other had encrypted lvm with unencrypted /boot partition, via Guided Partitioning in the installer.

I see no delay in shutdown with either system.

I can still update cryptsetup-modified-functions and build it for ceres/daedalus if there are cases where it's needed.
@devujan: Please put the final version you want me to use in a code box to make it easy for me. (so I don't screw it up.) Thanks.

#22 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown encrypted LVM on Beowulf » 2023-02-10 13:39:59

Thank you!

I guess I will be reviving the cryptsetup-modified-functions package for daedalus.

devujan wrote:
rolfie wrote:

Outlook to Chimaera: there the issue is fixed.


In Deadalus the problem is back....

--- /lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks-functions.orig   2023-01-31 21:00:09.967829315 +0100
+++ /lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks-functions        2023-01-31 21:10:31.023816298 +0100
@@ -184,8 +184,16 @@
# Removes all mappings in crypttab, except the ones holding the root
# file system or /usr
do_stop() {
-    local devno_rootfs devno_usr
+    local devno_rootfs devno_usr vgs vg
     dmsetup mknodes
+       if [ -x /sbin/lvm ]; then
+        vgs="$(/sbin/lvm vgscan | sed -n '/"/s/^.*"\([^'\'']*\)".*$/\1/p')"
+         if [ -n "${vgs}" ]; then
+          for vg in ${vgs}; do
+           /sbin/lvm vgchange -a n ${vg} >/dev/null 2>&1
+          done
+         fi
+       fi
     log_action_begin_msg "Stopping $INITSTATE crypto disks"

     devno_rootfs="$(get_mnt_devno /)" || devno_rootfs=""

Above patch mitigates the problem for me (Daedalus FDE && LVM).

Best wishes


#24 Re: Forum Feedback » [SOLVED] Search cooldown time » 2023-02-06 20:45:39

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

What is this about?

I'm not aware of any "cooldown time between searches" here?

I see it if I'm not logged in. Do a search, try to do another search immediately and it says I have to wait 30 seconds. When I'm logged in, there is no delay for the second search.

Note: I poked around the admin section looking for that setting, but I couldn't find it.

#25 Re: DIY » A Survey of User-made Content » 2023-02-04 16:11:02

boughtonp wrote:

What would be the benefit of a Devuan-specific community repository, as opposed to a Debian-wide one?

Unless you're not intending it to be Devuan-specific, in which case I amend the above to: what would you consider to be the benefits of a Debian-wide community repository?

I imagine that a Debian-wide community repository would not exclude software that requires systemd. One for Devuan would need to exclude things that won't install on Devuan. If you're running Debian, you will probably be able to use anything that's in the crapton repo.

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