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#1 Re: Installation » Upgrade custom Devuan. » 2024-07-15 13:04:15

Maybe this is helpful. It'll show all files in any *.d directory under /etc along with the last modification date. The 'grep -v' parts will filter out things I don't need to see, in this case, /etc/init.d and /etc/rc* (which I just realized will filter out /etc/rc.local which I know I changed.) Add other filters as you see fit. Change the search directory from /etc to something else if you think you changed config files there.

find /etc -wholename "*.d/*" -exec ls -l {} \; | grep -v 'etc/rc' | grep -v 'etc/init.d'

#2 Re: Installation » Falkon browser not up-to-date » 2024-07-14 20:30:37

The easy way to tell if a package in devuan is forked or not is to see if "devuan" is in the version. With very few exceptions, anything without that is a pure debian package and isn't even stored on our servers. So the version in excalibur gets pulled from trixie on debian's servers when you ask for it. Sorry I missed it in your first post. Now I can tell you that I know it won't work.

#3 Re: Installation » Falkon browser not up-to-date » 2024-07-14 18:47:47

We don't fork falkon, so to download it in a web browser, you would need to go to and search for falkon in the testing suite (trixie?). I have no idea if that version will work on daedalus.

#4 Re: Installation » Upgrade custom Devuan. » 2024-07-14 13:35:06

Your choice. There are pros and cons to all ways of doing it.

If you make a fresh install, you'll have to repeat all your changes. Do you have notes of everything you did or are you going to rely on memory. If you changed any system config files, you can find them easily using debsums.

I do it this way on my main desktop system - a fresh install on another partition and eventually migrate the old /home partition to the new system. That way I can easily fall back to the old OS if I need to. This process takes me about one month to complete.

If you upgrade, there's probably less work. Make sure you have a backup of the OS in case it fails. If you changed any system config files, you will be asked what to do with them during the upgrade. I usually look at the diff before deciding whether to take the new config or keep the old. Whichever one you choose, the other will be saved in case you need it.

On less critical systems (e.g. spare laptop) I wipe and install new. Granted, I'm using my own live-iso, so most of the custom configs are already done. Which brings me to yet another way. - Install the new system in a VM,and make all your changes, then make a live-iso snapshot from it and install that for a new system., with or without keeping the old system.

#5 Re: Devuan » Devuan has migrated from the gitlab store. » 2024-07-14 12:04:44

Yes, that's it. I think the move was at least a couple of years ago. You can create an account and use it.

#6 Re: Other Issues » OpenSSH fails to start with the latest update in Devuan 6 Excalibur » 2024-07-08 13:35:28

I'm not seeing this problem before or after upgrade today of excalibur amd64 on hardware with sysvinit. SSH login from remote works, rsync and dbus stop/start normally as do other services.

#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » hddtemp not available in Daedalus » 2024-07-07 16:27:42

If you're lucky, the hard drive reports temperature in degrees centigrade.

smartctl -a /dev/sda | awk '/Temperature/ { print $10 }'

#8 Re: Installation » Grub problem on HP Zbook with SSD HD » 2024-07-03 17:21:32

Maybe the problem is HP. The very first post in our documentation section is about uefi booting on HP Probook. The bootloader file had to be renamed to make the bios happy.

If you decide or figure out how to go to legacy boot, and if you keep the disk with a gpt partition table, you need to have a special partition for grub that is at least 1MB in size, is not formatted with any filesystem, and has a bios_grub label (in gparted) or type ef02 (in gdisk).

#9 Re: Installation » Grub problem on HP Zbook with SSD HD » 2024-07-03 12:35:35

If it's really just the grub bootloader that needs to be off the nvme drive, then you could put just grub on a usb stick and use that to boot. If that's not enough, you could put a separate /boot partition and the bootloader on a usb stick. Right now I can't think of the best way to do that. I think you might need to boot the installer media in rescue mode and reinstall the bootloader, but make sure it gets installed to a usb drive. It should probably be a different one than the installer usb in case you want to boot and run the installer again.

Before you reinstall grub, you could edit /etc/default/grub on the hard drive and set os-prober to run when you run update-grub. Then windows will be in the grub boot menu.

Another option might be to edit the windows boot menu to load grub. I don't know how to do that or even if it is possible with uefi.

#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Auto login » 2024-06-28 20:41:55

In /etc/slim.conf, uncomment and edit default_user and auto_login lines:

# default user, leave blank to not pre-load the username.
#default_user        simone

# Focus the password field on start when default_user is set
# Set to "yes" to enable this feature
#focus_password      no

# Automatically login the default user (without entering
# the password. Set to "yes" to enable this feature
#auto_login          no

In /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, go down to the section that begins with [Seat:*] and uncomment the autologin-user line and add your user name.

#11 Re: Installation » How to install devuan lxc-container on debian? » 2024-06-26 13:17:32

I don't know about lxc, so I don't know where you need to install the keyring, but here's the devuan-keyring package for daedalus - … 28_all.deb

The debootstrap error is easier - as root

cd /usr/share/debootstrap
ln -s ceres daedalus

I'm not sure if you need to install devuan's debootstrap. That's here - … n2_all.deb

#12 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2024-06-24 22:11:42

@grafiksink - here's source for a packaged version of the update-notifier that bgstack and I worked on. I don't know if this version made it into any miyolinux builds.

I think all the other stuff I have is older than what's on the sourceforge site. (some yad scripts and themes)

#13 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to force the ESP partition to be formatted at installation ? » 2024-06-14 17:53:52

You should be able to select the efi partition from the partition list and set it to be formatted and used as the esp. I haven't done it in the installer in a long time.

Be forewarned that some motherboards with poor uefi implementations may be bricked by formatting the efi partition. Here's some info about that: … -dangerous

#14 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to force the ESP partition to be formatted at installation ? » 2024-06-14 17:13:48

You can (and should) remove the unwanted boot entries using efibootmgr.

efibootmgr -b XXXX -B

where XXXX is the boot order number given by efibootmgr without any arguments.

#15 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Need acoustic signalling (sound) where only root account is present » 2024-06-14 00:52:14

Remove pulseaudio and just use alsa. aplay should work just fine for that.

I suppose you could use pipewire if you know about that. I don't.

#16 Re: Installation » daedalus: network interface names changing with (nearly) each boot » 2024-06-14 00:45:39

This is why they invented Predictable Network Interface Names. … faceNames/

In debian, with udev you get the new names (enpblahblahblah) unless you boot with 'net.ifnames=0' to preserve the old names (eth0...)

In devuan, with eudev you get the old names (eth0...) unless you boot with 'net.ifnames=1'.   Add that to the boot command in /etc/default/grub like this:


and then run update-grub

You will need to edit any scripts you've written that reference the interfaces by the old names.

#17 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Skype, snap and how to run on Devuan? » 2024-05-31 13:35:49

Use dpkg to install packages that you downloaded manually.

dpkg -i ./skypeforlinux/skypeforlinux_8.109.0.209_amd64.deb

And you will probably need to also install some missing libraries that it complains about. Easiest way is

apt -f install

with no packages named in the command.

#18 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] Exe GNU/Linux live user name and login? » 2024-05-29 14:23:03

I think adding a debian repo without pinning it to a low priority is asking for trouble. You bypass amprolla which filters out systemd. It's also unnecessary because the same package is available through devuan repos in the non-free section.

$ apt policy nvidia-driver
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 525.147.05-7~deb12u1
  Version table:
     535.161.08-2~deb12u1 100
        100 daedalus-proposed-updates/non-free amd64 Packages
     525.147.05-7~deb12u1 500
        500 daedalus-updates/non-free amd64 Packages
     525.147.05-4~deb12u1 500
        500 daedalus/non-free amd64 Packages

Note: I have proposed-updates pinned to low priority (100) and that's why the newest version isn't shown as the Candidate.

#19 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] Exe GNU/Linux live user name and login? » 2024-05-28 14:44:52

Maybe also add set gfxpayload=1280x1024 to the boot command. (or use your favorite resolution)

#20 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] Exe GNU/Linux live user name and login? » 2024-05-27 21:48:29

I'm 99.9% sure that login:password is user:user and root:root and that it should boot to a desktop without logging in.

#21 Re: Other Issues » desktop dress-up » 2024-05-27 10:29:46

I still don't understand what you're trying to do. Do you want an icon that will present images with text to you like a slideshow or powerpoiint presentation? Or do you just want an image with embedded text? What does "self-selected text" mean? I think there's a screensaver that displays sayings from fortune when it runs. Is that something like what you want?

#22 Re: Other Issues » desktop dress-up » 2024-05-26 11:04:10

notify-send will make a popup window with icon and message. The package name is libnotify-bin and it might already be installed.

If you want an icon to sit on the desktop to click and get a message, I think you just need to create a file or shortcut, but how you do it probably depends on what the text message is. Is it a note you wrote or do you want some text generated automatically?

Icons are just image files. You can make one in gimp.

#23 Re: Documentation » [SOLVED] Daedalus runit documentation » 2024-05-24 00:05:40

If you search this forum for 'runit' you will get a lot of hits. This one is probably a good place to start. Lorenzo is the Debian maintainer for runit.

#24 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Devuan est à la traîne (google: Devuan is lagging behind) ! » 2024-05-16 20:09:42

If google says that devuan is lagging behind debian, then google is confused. Almost all of the packages in devuan are taken directly from debian's repos when you install something.

If you think I was too aggressive when I told you and someone else to stop talking about each other, then I guess you misunderstood. We are here to talk about devuan, not to have personal arguments with other users. Or maybe the part you misunderstood was that I don't want to have a discussion about how to have a discussion. I don't require or want any feedback regarding this particular issue. Just stay on-topic.

@others - Thanks for the support.

#25 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » kernel -- immutable - DEFECT in 6.0 onwards or hardened » 2024-05-14 20:49:33

We don't package the kernel. Bug reports for this should go to debian.

I removed your duplicate posts. This one should be enough in case anyone has a similar setup.

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