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#1 Off-topic » Debian with sysvinit » Yesterday 19:04:35

fsmithred
Replies: 0

I was going through some old usb sticks to throw out the dead ones. One was not dead and booted to an old Refracta iso made in March of 2015 when jessie was still in testing. It might have been the last one that used debian sources. I'd have to go digging to find out for sure.

https://get.refracta.org/files/misc/scr … e-sysv.png

screenshot_jessie-sysv.png

#2 Re: Other Issues » Preliminary excalibur desktop-live isos need testing » 2025-03-25 23:59:42

Thanks, guys. I made the edits and built the package locally and managed to test it in the March live iso. It works. I'll push the changes and get a new package into the repo.

#3 Other Issues » Preliminary excalibur desktop-live isos need testing » 2025-03-24 16:01:15

fsmithred
Replies: 6

...and some problem-solving. Below are links to two desktop-live isos I made. The one from October boots up to the desktop as expected. The one from March presents an error screen before the second panel comes up on the desktop complaining about Plugin "null" that can't be loaded. You can select to remove that plugin and panel 2 comes up and you have the desktop, or you can select to quit and you get the desktop without panel 2.

I've looked at the config files for the panel and I can't figure out which plugin they're talking about or identify any of the plugins by looking at the code. Relevant files can be found in /etc/xdg/xfce4 and in ~/.config/xfce4.

I'm putting these on my own site for now. I don't want anyone to think that they are any kind of official release. Please take a look, and if anyone can figure out what's going on, it would be a big help.

The isos: (there are checksum files and signatures in the same directory)
https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … p-live.iso
https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … p-live.iso

sha256sums:

141f99794ce7c17d825134733bb1240eff63442e7e8cd761d65bc3a82d246005  devuan_excalibur_6.0-preview-2024-10-23_amd64_desktop-live.iso

6fe3b7ad120e7afdf49cb6bcbe21be0dc27bbe65835db7f063517655fed31817  devuan_excalibur_6.0-preview-2025-03-22_amd64_desktop-live.iso

Package list diff:

--- packages.20241023	2025-03-22 09:31:25.858107172 -0400
+++ packages.20250322	2025-03-22 09:32:21.914104796 -0400
@@ -21,6 +21,9 @@
 aspell-en
 at-spi2-common
 at-spi2-core
+atril
+atril-common
+avahi-autoipd
 avahi-daemon
 avahi-utils
 base-files
@@ -37,6 +40,7 @@
 bsd-mailx
 bsdextrautils
 bsdutils
+bubblewrap
 busybox
 bzip2
 ca-certificates
@@ -44,7 +48,7 @@
 coinor-libcbc3.1:amd64
 coinor-libcgl1:amd64
 coinor-libclp1:amd64
-coinor-libcoinmp1v5:amd64
+coinor-libcoinmp0:amd64
 coinor-libcoinutils3v5:amd64
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 colord
@@ -109,7 +113,6 @@
 dmz-cursor-theme
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-dnsutils
 doc-debian
 docutils-common
 docutils-doc
@@ -140,6 +143,7 @@
 firmware-bnx2
 firmware-bnx2x
 firmware-brcm80211
+firmware-carl9170
 firmware-intel-graphics
 firmware-intel-misc
 firmware-iwlwifi
@@ -165,6 +169,7 @@
 fonts-lato
 fonts-liberation
 fonts-liberation-sans-narrow
+fonts-mathjax
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@@ -260,7 +265,7 @@
 hyphen-en-us
 i965-va-driver:amd64
 ifupdown
-imagemagick-6-common
+imagemagick-7-common
 inetutils-telnet
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@@ -288,7 +293,7 @@
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@@ -296,7 +301,7 @@
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+libapt-pkg7.0:amd64
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@@ -312,6 +317,8 @@
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+libatrildocument3t64
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@@ -371,6 +378,7 @@
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+libcaja-extension1:amd64
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@@ -393,6 +401,7 @@
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+libcpuinfo0:amd64
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@@ -420,10 +429,11 @@
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@@ -438,6 +448,7 @@
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+libebur128-1:amd64
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@@ -450,7 +461,6 @@
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@@ -477,7 +487,7 @@
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@@ -514,15 +524,14 @@
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@@ -585,6 +594,7 @@
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@@ -611,6 +621,7 @@
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+libicu76:amd64
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@@ -635,6 +646,7 @@
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+libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1-0:amd64
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@@ -642,13 +654,14 @@
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+libjs-mathjax
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-libjxl0.9:amd64
+libjxl0.11:amd64
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@@ -656,6 +669,7 @@
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+libkpathsea6:amd64
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@@ -665,8 +679,8 @@
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-libldap-2.5-0:amd64
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@@ -683,6 +697,7 @@
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+liblsof0
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@@ -693,12 +708,13 @@
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-libmagickwand-6.q16-7t64:amd64
+libmagickcore-7.q16-10:amd64
+libmagickcore-7.q16-10-extra:amd64
+libmagickwand-7.q16-10:amd64
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+libmanette-0.2-0:amd64
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-libmbedcrypto7t64:amd64
+libmbedcrypto16:amd64
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@@ -718,7 +734,7 @@
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@@ -770,13 +786,15 @@
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+libonnx1t64:amd64
+libonnxruntime1.21:amd64
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-libopenh264-7:amd64
+libopenh264-8:amd64
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@@ -800,7 +818,7 @@
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+libpaper2:amd64
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@@ -822,26 +840,28 @@
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+libpoppler-cpp2:amd64
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+libpoppler147:amd64
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+libprotobuf32t64:amd64
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+libpthreadpool0:amd64
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-libpython3.12-minimal:amd64
-libpython3.12-stdlib:amd64
-libpython3.12t64:amd64
+libpython3.13:amd64
+libpython3.13-minimal:amd64
+libpython3.13-stdlib:amd64
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-libqpdf29t64:amd64
+libqpdf30:amd64
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@@ -853,6 +873,7 @@
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+libre2-11:amd64
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@@ -909,7 +930,6 @@
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-libsndio7.0:amd64
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@@ -923,6 +943,7 @@
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+libspectre1:amd64
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@@ -942,9 +963,9 @@
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@@ -957,6 +978,8 @@
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+libtheoradec1:amd64
+libtheoraenc1:amd64
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@@ -1020,14 +1043,16 @@
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-libwebrtc-audio-processing1:amd64
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@@ -1039,7 +1064,7 @@
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+libx265-215:amd64
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@@ -1071,6 +1096,8 @@
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+libxfce4windowing-0-0:amd64
+libxfce4windowing-common
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@@ -1094,6 +1121,7 @@
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+libxnnpack0.20241108:amd64
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@@ -1113,6 +1141,7 @@
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+libyaml-0-2:amd64
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@@ -1128,8 +1157,9 @@
 lightdm
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-linux-image-6.11.4-amd64
+linux-image-6.12.17-amd64
 linux-image-amd64
+linux-sysctl-defaults
 live-boot
 live-boot-doc
 live-boot-initramfs-tools
@@ -1143,11 +1173,12 @@
 login.defs
 logrotate
 logsave
-lp-solve
 lsb-release
 lsof
 luit
 lvm2
+lxpolkit
+lxsession-data
 lynx
 lynx-common
 mailcap
@@ -1176,9 +1207,11 @@
 netbase
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-network-manager-gnome
+network-manager-applet
+network-manager-l10n
 nfs-common
 nftables
+nm-connection-editor
 node-clipboard
 node-normalize.css
 node-prismjs
@@ -1210,7 +1243,6 @@
 pkexec
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 pocketsphinx-en-us
-policykit-1-gnome
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@@ -1226,7 +1258,6 @@
 python-apt-common-devuan
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-python3-autocommand
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 python3-cairo
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@@ -1243,18 +1274,13 @@
 python3-gi
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-python3-inflect
-python3-jaraco.context
-python3-jaraco.functools
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-python3-more-itertools
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-python3-pkg-resources
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@@ -1264,13 +1290,11 @@
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-python3-typeguard
-python3-typing-extensions
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 python3-urllib3
 python3-xdg
-python3.12
-python3.12-minimal
+python3.13
+python3.13-minimal
 quodlibet
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 refractainstaller-base
@@ -1380,6 +1404,9 @@
 xbitmaps
 xbrlapi
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+xdg-dbus-proxy
+xdg-desktop-portal
+xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
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 xdg-utils
 xfburn
@@ -1398,6 +1425,8 @@
 xfce4-helpers
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 xfce4-netload-plugin:amd64
+xfce4-notes
+xfce4-notes-plugin
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@@ -1437,6 +1466,8 @@
 xorg
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+xsane
+xsane-common
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@@ -1453,6 +1484,7 @@
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+xserver-xorg-video-qxl
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 xserver-xorg-video-vesa
 xserver-xorg-video-vmware

#4 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] how restore a root partition to a dual boot system ? » 2025-03-14 12:44:46

I've never used fsarchiver, but I think the thing to do would be restore and then either boot an installer disk and choose Advanced options and then Reinstall bootloader, or else boot from live media and chroot into the installed system to run grub-install and update-grub. That will get the new UUIDs. For fstab, you have to edit manually.

But before you do that, you should repair the filesystem. When you get to the part that says give root password or ctrl-d, give it the root password and run fsck on whatever partitions it said failed.

#5 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » (Partially solved) Lightdm not working right in Excalibur » 2025-03-13 16:57:30

I want to add that you showed me your Xorg log and there were no errors related to seatd. Just the missing firmware stuff.

FYI - intel graphics work without additional firmware. The microcode packages are for cpu patches, so you might want to add the intel microcode just to be "hardware-neutral" for lack of a better term.

#6 Re: Off-topic » [HowTo] Asus Eee PC - Flashing the BIOS » 2025-03-13 16:48:37

It does qualify for off-topic but it also is not disqualified for Documentation "How-tos and Tips & Tricks contributed by Devuan users". Either way is fine.

#7 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » (Partially solved) Lightdm not working right in Excalibur » 2025-03-13 01:34:56

The problem might be with seatd. I'm getting seatd errors in Xorg.O.log when the screen goes blank and becomes unresponsive. This is happening in excalibur installed in a VM, not a live-iso. I'm using startx. No display manager or screen saver or power manager or elogind. Here's a short sample.

[ 10109.368] (II) seatd_libseat try close /dev/input/event3 (4:25)
[ 10109.368] (EE) [libseat/backend/seatd.c:122] Could not flush connection: Broken pipe
[ 10109.368] (EE) seatd_libseat close failed -32
[ 10109.368] (**) Option "fd" "25"
[ 10109.369] (II) seatd_libseat try close /dev/input/event2 (5:26)
[ 10109.369] (EE) seatd_libseat close failed -107

#8 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » (Partially solved) Lightdm not working right in Excalibur » 2025-03-12 09:52:48

Thanks for the clarification. I was thinking you had this problem in the live-iso, which is where I'm having the problem.

Also, I meant "sysvinit" not "syslinux". I edited my post above to correct that mistake.

sysvinit is the dummy transitional package. You'll get to deal with that when you make the live-iso.

#9 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » X11 recently failing to start the first time after boot » 2025-03-12 00:14:44

1101HAB  Atom Z520 @1.33GHz  2G RAM and 128GB SSD
Daedalus and Excalibur work on it.
Every new release gets bigger.

#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » (Partially solved) Lightdm not working right in Excalibur » 2025-03-11 18:58:46

Yeah, I have half an idea of where to start looking. This looks like it's at least partly related to this one:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7106

Do you have the sysvinit dummy package installed, or just sysvinit-core and sysvinit-utils? I'm guessing you don't have it, or you wouldn't get to tty1. Try adding or removing the dummy and see if it helps or breaks it worse. And/or remove lightdm, log in at tty1 and see if the live-config xinit script takes over and loads the desktop like it does here.

Edited to correct typos:   *sysvinit* not syslinux.

#11 Re: Off-topic » [HowTo] Asus Eee PC - Flashing the BIOS » 2025-03-11 18:45:32

(You red it, don't you?)

Nope. Just a quick scan for now. When it's done, it belongs in the Documentation section.

Thanks for the write-up.

#12 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » X11 recently failing to start the first time after boot » 2025-03-11 15:45:01

Before:
2:21.1.7-3+deb12u8devuan1

After:
2:21.1.7-3+deb12u9devuan1

apt policy xserver-common  # same output for xserver-xorg-core
 *** 2:21.1.7-3+deb12u9devuan1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2:21.1.7-3+deb12u8devuan1 100
        100 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates/main i386 Packages
     2:21.1.7-3+deb12u7devuan1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main i386 Packages

#13 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » X11 recently failing to start the first time after boot » 2025-03-11 10:40:54

I can only offer a data point - it's not happening here running daedalus on asus EEE with 686-pae kernel, minimal lxqt with no display manager. Tested before and after latest upgrade which gave me xserver-xorg-core and xserver-common.

#14 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] installing excalibur » 2025-03-10 16:05:31

Someone is working on fixing that issue. Until new isos appear, you can either install daedalus and upgrade to excalibur, or you can boot one of the daedalus live isos and do a debootstrap install of excalibur.

Or search this forum to read the other discussions about this for possible workarounds or if you want to help with testing/troubleshooting.

#15 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Brightness module? » 2025-03-10 16:00:52

*.dpkg-dist is the saved copy of a new config file when the old one was kept in place. I think if you have brightness.dpkg-dist but not brightness, then something is wrong. Converseley, *.dpkg-old is the old version that's saved when it gets replace with the new one. I think you only get that when you tell debconf to use the package maintainer's (new) version rather than the old version that you modified from the default.

Sorry, I have no other answers.

#16 Re: Other Issues » live-config autologin broken? » 2025-03-10 15:00:53

More info -

I installed runit and made another iso. Autologin is configured by editing the run files in /etc/sv/getty-tty[1-6]. Autologin fails in this case, and the run files were not edited. In fact, it looks like live-config did not run at all - /var/log/live/config.log is empty.

This one boots to no login prompt, but pressing ENTER shows the login prompt and it works.

CORRECTION: The login prompt is there in runit, but I didn't see it because the console got spammed with system messages.

#17 Other Issues » live-config autologin broken? » 2025-03-10 12:39:30

fsmithred
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TTY autologin has stopped working in the excalibur live isos I'm making. This is normally done by the live-config script, 0160-sysvinit, which looks for a package named 'sysvinit' and if it's present, it modifies /etc/inittab to automatically log in the primary use on tty1. There are a couple of issues.

1. 'sysvinit' is a dummy transitional package. It's not a dependency of sysvinit-core, so it's possible to be using sysvinit as your init system without this dummy package installed. If it's not installed, then the live-config script doesn't setup autologin and the user is presented with a tty login prompt.

2. Now in excalibur, if the dummy package is installed, the system fails to complete its bootup. I can ssh in and see that /etc/inittab has been modified, but the ttys don't get created. I'm not sure where to look for the actual failure. The live-config script in excalibur is the same as the one in daedalus, where this problem does not occur.

I did a search on the debian-live mailing list and didn't find anything useful. What am I missing?

#18 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Brightness module? » 2025-03-10 10:52:32

$ apt-file find init.d/brightness
initscripts: /etc/init.d/brightness

I don't think you can get rid of it. You're not the only one who never noticed this.

# Short-Description: Save and restore brightness level between restarts.
# Description:       This script saves the brightness level between restarts.
#                    It is called from the boot, halt and reboot scripts.

#19 Re: Installation » How to upgrade to devuan testing? » 2025-03-09 22:07:04

I can't read most of that, but I know what it's tellilng  you. Excalibur is still the Testing suite, so there is no -security or -updates repos. Those won't exist until excalibur is officially released as Stable. Comment them out for now.

#20 Re: Installation » How to import a synaptic exported package list? » 2025-03-09 11:21:37

To use one of the methods Andre linked, you need to get a list of just package names (filter out the versions) like this (or equivalet.):

SOMETHING BETTER THAN THIS!!!  I didn't realize that 'apt list' just lists everything in the repo. You do not want to install more than 59,000 packages. See Delgado's post below or use 'dpkg -l' to see what's installed. (The awk would need to be modified.)

apt list | awk -F"/" '{ print $1 }'  > package-list

#21 Re: Installation » How to import a synaptic exported package list? » 2025-03-09 09:30:23

I don't know if that's meant for making install lists.  Feeding the list to apt install is possible, but might not be the best way. In the past, I've used 'dpkg --get-selections' 'dpkg --clear-selections'  and 'dpkg --set-selections' to make an install list and use it on another machine.

#22 Re: ARM Builds » refractasnapshot-base syslinux arm64 » 2025-03-07 20:34:14

I think 1161-openssh-server was a hack that I threw into Refracta isos and then later wanted to make sure it was gone. That's a good reminder of why I should use a hook script instead. Thanks.

#23 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta OS issues and questions :) » 2025-03-07 17:45:21

The installer will recognize more than one existing efi partition and let you choose the one you want, so yes, you have to make it first.
In gparted, make a fat32 partition and give it the esp flag (it'll get the boot flag automatically).

Your motherboard might not let you be the one to decide which efi partition is the real one. And I don't know if having two and switching them by changing the drive order will work or is safe. The usual procedure is just to let linux use the same efi partition as windows and put itself in first place for booting. If you've looked at what's in the efi partition, you can see that there are several bootloaders. You can change the order or manage them otherwise with efibootmgr - depending on how much the motherboard manufacturer felt like following standards. see rodbooks.com for more info on uefi.

#24 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta OS issues and questions :) » 2025-03-07 15:15:27

Nice to see you again and good luck with it. Post again if you run into problems.

BTW, I don't think you can call yourself a noob anymore. I checked my old forum logs. 2014!

Edit: fixed type (the year)

#25 Re: ARM Builds » refractasnapshot-base syslinux arm64 » 2025-03-07 10:37:57

Of course, having someone who knows where to look is even better. Thanks, dzz.

I'm not sure what's up with ssh. In the excalibur isos I've made recently, live-config keeps turning off password authentication. I resorted to making a live-config script to look for 'SSH-ON' in the boot command.

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