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#1 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Calculator freezes » 2025-08-07 21:16:19

OK, I finally remembered to use the solution I found in certain threads. Disabling the automatic download of currency exchange rates does indeed solve the problem. It now loads and runs normally.

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=441309

dconf write /org/gnome/calculator/refresh-interval 0

It seems bizarre. Why did they do such a clumsy thing? Wasn't it easy to predict that the URL might be moved, or more likely, the owners of the website would notice the odd traffic and move it?

#2 Hardware & System Configuration » How to lookup printer drivers in CUPS? » 2025-08-06 17:27:04

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My printers are all ancient and suffering various problems. Rather than continue to struggle to keep them running, I am thinking of buying a newer printer. The one I favor, the Brother HL-L2400D is especially appealing for NOT having fancy networking options that just make it hackable. Wifi printers??? No. Just no.

But on researching it, one of the things I have learned is that there is no MacOS driver for this printer. That normally wouldn't be a concern since I don't own Apple hardware, except I thought Apple used the CUPS system like all other *nix based OSes? Do they? How would I check if there is a CUPS driver for this printer before buying one and plugging it into a computer running some flavor of Linux? I would hope there is a reference somewhere that can be checked?

#3 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » A glimpse of things to come? » 2025-08-06 13:42:17

This is just one aspect of the drive to lock down 'general purpose' computing. Remember, there is DRM functionality built into our CPUs since at least a decade ago. I forget when they started, but it's been there a while. Generation after generation of equipment, they add more of this stuff. The point is going to come where they can lock it down and the old stuff will be too far behind to be useful.

How much work is there on "Open Source BIOS" for lack of a better term? We will eventually need to be able to flash something new into our motherboards with fewer corporate control options.

#4 Devuan Derivatives » Keyring? » 2025-07-31 17:57:57

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I've setup the Devuan version of Peppermint OS, just to see what it's like. I installed Chrome because it seems to be necessary to access some sites. And when I start Chrome for the first time after a boot it wants a password for a keyring. When I installed Chrome on Devuan with XFCE, it also wanted a keyring and I couldn't get around it and couldn't run Chrome. Had to install with Cinnamon and then it was possible to get Chrome to run. Apparently it was something 'default' to Gnome, which Cinnamon is based on.

It looks like the people who setup Peppermint OS did something different. It is possible to get Chrome to run on XFCE by entering a password for the keyring. What do you suppose they did differently?

#5 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Calculator freezes » 2025-07-22 18:56:40

If it's a known issue it's something not linked to the word 'calculator' because nothing turns up. Could you possibly give me a pointer?

#6 Desktop and Multimedia » Calculator freezes » 2025-07-22 18:33:04

Micronaut
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Here's a desktop app that doesn't get discussed much! big_smile

The default calculator in Daedalus just doesn't work. Any time I start it, it just freezes and I have to kill it. Not a really big deal since I usually install Galculator, and prefer that. But the default app gets launched by default when you push the calculator button on any MS sponsored keyboard. So I've seen it pop up a few times. And been puzzled that it's always unusable.

What could be wrong with it?

#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How are 'live' disks that can boot on many systems created? » 2025-07-06 01:21:59

It's odd how you can ask the same question multiple times and never be understood. Is it so impossible to create an HDD that can boot on multiple systems like a "live" CD, that no one can even comprehend the question? I would think it would be possible to tell your OS to install all available drivers and use a slightly modified boot process similar to what a live CD uses.

#8 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How are 'live' disks that can boot on many systems created? » 2025-07-05 23:15:46

Yeah, but they are fixed on CD. If I install from a "live" CD don't I get a system adapted to the hardware I installed on? If I want to take an HDD with a personal install (choice of applications) and use it in several different systems, can I make such an HDD with a typical "Live" disk?

#9 Hardware & System Configuration » How are 'live' disks that can boot on many systems created? » 2025-07-05 20:40:58

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Is there an option in the standard installer of Devuan -- or any other major distro -- to include all the files you need to test at boot time and choose the right drivers for whatever system the disk has been placed in? Or is that a special mode that has to be configured by expert devs?

#10 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » LVM -- useful or not? » 2025-06-30 20:40:39

Yeah, I had the impression from the way it was pushed in the installer that it was a 'normal' thing, but I guess LVM is not very widely used? I always opted not to use it because I realized that 'dynamic' resizing could only be possible by fragmenting the actual allocation of the partitions, with possibly major performance implications.

I guess what made me think about it again was preparing to use SSDs. Fragmentation of partitions would not be a performance issue on SSDs. But I've never had an SSD in any system yet. They always seemed too expensive, and somewhat unreliable. I keep hearing they fail little or no warning. Unlike spinning disks that usually give you SMART warnings for a while before actually becoming unusable. But the durability and reliability of SSDs has been increasing, and the speed advantages are tempting for uses like gaming.

It sounds like I still don't need to use LVM. Just plan my partitions well so I don't have to re-map them later. smile

#11 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Firefox ESR on systems that have not been online for a while » 2025-06-30 20:27:43

Yes, I discovered the "Easy Fix" MSI. An amusing name. All it does is add TLS 1.2 support. Applying that solved many problems. It stopped whingeing that it was not a legitimate copy and was able to check for updates even beyond the antivirus. Many things turned up that I was not even aware of. Some of them dated 2021, after the end of public support. Maybe they released some of the 'extended support' stuff for free after the final end of all support? It's taking a while to download and install them. But it seems worthwhile to get them.

Edited to add: And yes, Firefox now works properly also.

#12 Hardware & System Configuration » LVM -- useful or not? » 2025-06-30 02:50:45

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So far I have always avoided using LVM as it seemed like an extra layer of abstraction, and to my mind code, on top of any other drivers needed to access the drives. Does LVM really add any overhead to disk access? Can it slow down a system at all? Or is it only relevant at the install phase, and then at the time of any modifications of the disk layout?

#13 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Transfering an OS from HD to SSD » 2025-06-30 02:29:32

Well, my first thought was logging, which is supposed to be different on Windows when using an SSD compared to an HD. There is supposed to be much less, to reduce the wear on SSDs. Logging of everything has been so automatic in *nix for so long I wondered if there was any concession to hardware wear. And then there is the automatic disk optimization in Windows, but Linux doesn't do that at all. smile There may be other operational differences, though, so I was just wondering.

#14 Hardware & System Configuration » Transfering an OS from HD to SSD » 2025-06-30 00:08:26

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When you use one of those 'whole partition' transfer utilities to copy a system from an old HD to an SSD, does the OS notice the change in hardware? I seem to recall there are differences in how an OS should behave on one vs the other, but I don't know if that is something fixed at install time, or if it should be manually changed, or if it's automatically recognized.

#15 Desktop and Multimedia » Firefox ESR on systems that have not been online for a while » 2025-06-30 00:05:54

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A strange problem has occurred on two Windows 7 systems/disks that I have maintained for a while, just because. I don't boot them often. Maybe once a  year or so. This time Windows 7 OS itself seems to be cut off. The "Microsoft Security Essentials"/"Defender" anti-virus cannot update anymore. I guess MS has finally cut the hold-outs loose. But something much stranger occurred with the browsers.

On one of these systems Firefox still works. I can start it up and go onto the current web. Everything seems normal. On the other, Firefox thinks all websites have "security problems" and refuses to connect. The a certificate match problem, right? What would there be in a Firefox install that requires updating beyond what the standard update would perform? I ran the latest available update (115.24) on both. And both seemed to update successfully.

Or is this a problem fixable in the browser at all? Would there be some other update, something on the OS side, that I missed for one of those old disks?

#16 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Android in a VM - recommendations? » 2025-06-15 23:13:52

Bliss OS is where the Android x86 developers went. It's fussier than Android x86 and won't run in many of the emulators that previous port could use. I think it requires KVM in Linux. But that's a technical detail that may change from one release to the next.

I do agree with the OP complaint about the trend towards forcing everyone to use smartphone apps (either iPhone or Android) to interact with businesses. I've not encountered the banking restrictions talked about, yet, but now I am worried. I hate the idea of having access to all the critical details of my life on a portal device that I may have to carry around just for safety. You need a phone to get help on the road if your car breaks down, for example. But then you've got your entire life on that little device where ever you go and can potentially lose it and control of your life right along with it.

#17 Hardware & System Configuration » Using Google Authenticator -- Native or VM? » 2025-05-24 19:04:45

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Is there a Google Authenticator on Linux? If not, I'm seeking the best way to run Android on Linux so I can use the Android app on more than just a phone. The use of passwords is increasingly risky, and SMS 2FA is actually worse, but I don't want to switch to the authenticator mode and then be dependent on one tiny device to access my Gmail. If it flakes out for some reason, I'm locked out. I need backups/reliability.

A full VM seems excessive, but I'll do the 'due diligence' if necessary. Poking around, though, I have discovered AnBox and WayDroid, and these seem to be more like "Wine" for Android. Interface layers that do not require a full VM with isolated disk space. Any thoughts by anyone on which of these is better? And for what reasons? I notice Anbox is in the repositories but Watdroid is an independent thing you have to install an extra repository for.

The main thing I am looking for, of course, is simply stability / reliability. Don't need the fanciest features as I'm not into mobile gaming or anything else that would tax an emulator.

#18 Re: Packaging for Devuan » Repository not found. » 2024-10-22 17:58:29

Retrieving it manually is a pretty clumsy work-around. They should have the repositories working. And it did work later in the day when I tried again.

#19 Packaging for Devuan » Repository not found. » 2024-10-21 16:13:55

Micronaut
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My Devuan 4 install in a VM cannot find a major repository today.

E: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/f/ffmpeg/ffmpeg_4.3.8-0+deb11u1_amd64.deb: 404  Not Found [IP: 130.225.254.116 80]

Has something been moved? Or is there a problem with the repository?

#20 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Where are repository data files stored? » 2024-09-16 13:18:00

Yes, I'm aware of /etc/apt/sources.list.d already. What I'm not certain about is the data files downloaded from those repositories. Deleting the text file under apt is surely not going to remove the data from that source? Or does Apt do that automatically?

#21 Re: DIY » wicd is back from the dead » 2024-09-15 21:12:18

As with all 'volunteer' contributions these days, I would recommend caution. Has it been audited? Something like this runs with root privs, doesn't it?

#22 Hardware & System Configuration » Where are repository data files stored? » 2024-09-15 21:09:42

Micronaut
Replies: 7

Clearly, a local database is kept when you run apt-get update. Where is it stored? If I install a third-party program of some sort, such as Google Chrome, and it adds a repository for itself, is that kept in the same place? And if I later remove this program, what happens to that extra database? Does it get removed automatically? Or do I have to manually delete it somehow?

#23 Re: Off-topic » Secure Boot? Yes, we've heard of it ... » 2024-08-21 02:55:52

Slashdot has a story about yet another SNAFU with secure boot. MS attempting to fix a Wind'ohs vulnerability has broken GRUB and people with dual boot systems cannot boot.

#24 Re: Freedom Hacks » [SOLVED] Fixing DNS Leaks with OpenVPN on Devuan: Workaround » 2024-08-07 01:28:43

Please post what tweaks you made here? I've tried setting up Proton VPN according to their directions, but I'm not sure how 'generically' useful their setup might be.

#25 Re: Freedom Hacks » [SOLVED] Fixing DNS Leaks with OpenVPN on Devuan: Workaround » 2024-08-06 01:28:06

The Proton Mail / VPN people suggest you install OpenResolv when you configure a Linux system to use their VPN. Of course, they recommend that you to use their app first. But that requires the Gnome desktop environment, which is now in the death-grip of you-know-what eldritch abomination from the depths of Red Hat. So, if you configure manually, they say you should install both OpenVPN and OpenResolv -- specifically to prevent problems of the sort you are describing.

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