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#1 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » What games do you play on Devuan?? » 2019-04-27 19:49:52

Kye ( www.kye.me.uk  )  A puzzle game with hundreds of levels (+ design your own). There is a Python version for Linux. This website explains it, but for the Python Kye download, follow link from its Links page.

PRBoom ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/prboom/ ) A port of Doom, with a Linux version

Soma ( https://www.somagame.com/ ) Available for Linux, Mac and Windows

#2 Re: Installation » NTFS Partitions not recognised » 2019-02-04 20:45:13

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

In order to deal with exfat file systems, you need to have the exfat-fuse and exfat-utils packages installed.

I had never heard of exfat and Wikipedia says it is a file system for flash drives etc. Surely my hard drives formated under Windows as NTFS would not be exfat?  I understood that the "Type" shown eg by cfstab (Type 7 in this case and described as "HPFS/NTFS/exFAT") is purely nominal and is not used functionally by modern Linux - you could call it what type you like and it would make no difference, or so I thought.

#3 Re: Installation » NTFS Partitions not recognised » 2019-02-04 20:33:47

PedroReina wrote:

Could we see the exact command you tried and the error you got? I mean, from the command line.

OK :-

[root@mesh-devuan:~] # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2 /mnt/windows/
ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/sdb2': No such file or directory

ntfs-3g 2014.2.15AR.2 integrated FUSE 28 - Third Generation NTFS Driver
                Configuration type 7, XATTRS are on, POSIX ACLS are on

Copyright (C) 2005-2007 Yura Pakhuchiy
Copyright (C) 2006-2009 Szabolcs Szakacsits
Copyright (C) 2007-2014 Jean-Pierre Andre
Copyright (C) 2009 Erik Larsson

Usage:    ntfs-3g [-o option[,...]] <device|image_file> <mount_point>

Options:  ro (read-only mount), windows_names, uid=, gid=,
          umask=, fmask=, dmask=, streams_interface=.
          Please see the details in the manual (type: man ntfs-3g).

Example: ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows

News, support and information:  http://tuxera.com

FWIW I get exactly the same result with  mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2 /mnt/windows/  and ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2 /mnt/windows/

blkid shows info about the other drives but sdb does not appear at all.

This is ASCII and ntfs-3g is installed.  It would seem the problem is with non-recognition of the partitions' existence and it does not even get as far as trying to read the file system.  I'm wondering if partitions created in Windows have a different indexing or header or something, which is why Linux does not recognise them. It is an older mother board without UEFI.

sdd1 and sdd2 are vfat partitions and they can be mounted with no problem in Linux.

#4 Installation » NTFS Partitions not recognised » 2019-02-04 17:39:58

Duke Nukem
Replies: 8

I have four HDDs, one of which is dedicated to Windows and has four primary MBR type partitions.  Windows works fine, but although Linux sees the drive as sdb, it does not see the partitions. I first noticed this because trying to mount the Windows partitions under Devuan failed.

[root@mesh-devuan:~] # cat /proc/partitions 
major minor  #blocks  name

   8        0  244198584 sda
   8        1   51761398 sda1
   8        2   51761430 sda2
   8        3   51761430 sda3
   8        4   88911742 sda4
   8       32  976762584 sdc
   8       33  156250112 sdc1
   8       34  156250112 sdc2
   8       35  156250112 sdc3
   8       36  156250112 sdc4
   8       37    8388608 sdc5
   8       38   25165824 sdc6
   8       39  318206663 sdc7
   8       16   78150744 sdb
   8       48    4202415 sdd
   8       49     262206 sdd1
   8       50     999810 sdd2
   8       51    2940367 sdd3
  11        0    1048575 sr0

Yet cfdisk does see them :-

                                   Disk: /dev/sdb
                Size: 74.5 GiB, 80026361856 bytes, 156301488 sectors
                         Label: dos, identifier: 0x2de32de2

    Device       Boot         Start        End   Sectors   Size  Id Type
    /dev/sdb1                  2048     206847    204800   100M   7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT 
    /dev/sdb2                208845   31423139  31214295  14.9G   7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sdb3              31423140  110157704  78734565  37.6G   7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sdb4             110157705  156296384  46138680    22G   7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    Free space            156297216  156301487      4272   2.1M

What is going on here? AFAIR I created the sdb partitions under Windows, because in my experience Windows does not see partitions as the correct size if installed into partitions created earlier under Linux.

BTW, the 100Mb sdb1 was created by Windows 7 for some purpose.

#5 Re: Installation » Difference between DE during installation from dvd installer » 2019-01-30 10:17:18

I was puzzled by this screen too. For a moment I thought that Devuan had developed its own graphical desktop environment [DE]! But I took it to mean that the top tick box meant whether you wanted a graphical DE or not, and the next five chose which specific type of DE you wanted. So I ticked the top box and also KDE, with the other four DE boxes blank - that worked for me.

It seemed to me that the top box was redundant because if you ticked one of the five specific DEs then of course you wanted a DE.  The five specific DE lines might have been indented like subheadings. I don't know what would happen if you ticked one of the five DEs but not the top box :-S

That's how I interpreted it - does anyone kow better?

#6 Re: Installation » Dual-boot with Windows 10 from separate drives » 2019-01-29 16:12:18

Shouldn't be a problem, although I've never done it with Win10, only XP and Win7.  Windows should be installed first (for a simple life) which you have already done.  Now install Devuan, during which it will ask you where you want Devuan installed (at least it does so if you choose the expert installation, as I always have) and obviously you choose the other drive.  You will later be asked where you want Grub installed and you can choose the Master Boot Record of the first drive. Grub will detect that there is also Windows available and will add it to the boot menu alongside Devuan.

#7 Installation » Pale Moon » 2019-01-29 15:31:13

Duke Nukem
Replies: 4

The Pale Moon browser is not in the Devuan repositories, although it is in the Debian ones (I could try it from there). Is this an oversight? There does not seem much choice of browsers these days with Chrome almost taking over the world (even Microsoft have now switched to it), although  Safari survives for Apple users. People are predicting the death of Firefox, but I've seen good reports of Pale Moon which forked from it.

#9 Other Issues » Console Background Colour of SSH Sessions » 2018-11-11 17:38:24

Duke Nukem
Replies: 1

Does anyone know how to change the console background colour in an SSH session?

I have Konsole set (via its Menu Bar "Settings"->"Edit Current Profile") to white text on black, but any changes apply to all sessions, not just the local one. I would like a background (eg dark grey) in SSH sessions that is different from that of other PCs on the network, so I can see at a glance which one I am using.  Fiddling around with the PS1 variable in .bashrc in the remote PC I have only succeded in changing the background colour under the text itself, not the whole background.

#10 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Plymouth alternatives » 2018-11-11 14:21:24

narcisgarcia wrote:

All are [Ok] and [info] messages. No one in red color.

But isn't it nice to see that it is all OK?  I like to see the boot messages, and not have them papered over with wallpaper. I only ever shut down and reboot once every three months on average so I don't much care what booting looks like anyway. Sorry to be of little help.

#11 Re: Installation » Sources List all Non-Free ? » 2018-11-09 17:16:00

@ fsmithred : Thanks for that, I get it now.

#12 Re: Installation » Sources List all Non-Free ? » 2018-11-09 10:22:46

arnaiz wrote:

- not free: these are redistributable packages but not free according to the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG).
- contrib: is free software compatible with the DFSG, but depends on some packages that are not free.
- main: it is the standard repository of devuan and all the software included here includes free software according with the DFSG.

Thanks for that, I now understand the definitions.  But with that, and with searching other threads, I still have a simple practical question : is the stuff in the "main" repositories included as a subset in the "non-free" repositories, or does the "non-free" repository contain only "non-free" stuff?

Or putting it another way, if I want free and non-free stuff, should I have both "main" and "non-free" repositories in my sources.list or is just "non-free" enough?

Or putting it third way, does the line :-

deb http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib

....  refer to three different repositories ("main" "non-free" and "contrib") that are all included by that statement? Or is it refering to a single block of stuff that contains it all, and there is a separate block, invoked by :-

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii          main

.... that contains free stuff and only free stuff?

Sorry, I was not intending to start an ideological discussion here :-S

#13 Re: Devuan » Devuan ASCII reviewed on DistroWatch Weekly » 2018-11-07 17:15:54

I have just installed ASCII and I don't recognise some of the reviewer's complaints. 

I chose the expert non-graphical install from DVD, and it went smoothly except it said I had an EFI motherboard and I should put GRUB on a USB stick. However I don't have an EFI motherboard so I ignored it, with no repercussions.

I used Debian before I used Devuan, and it seemed to me that the installation procedures were practically identical : has this guy never installed Debian?  I once did a net install of Debian and it did take hours (literally, waiting for packages to be downloaded) and would never try that again, Debian or Devuan.

He was installing on a VM, so he had graphics problems.  I have rarely managed to install anything on a VM without graphics problems and I usually just give up and have to accept a shrunken a 800x600 (or whatever) subscreen.

I was not asked to set up partitions manually; the option was only offered (and I took it). It also offered to make partition decisions itself, even in this "custom" installation - I don't know what it would do with that option.

He seemed to find the account set-up stage confusing.  I was simply asked to set up a root account and then a user account. I never like the sudo method of doing admin (AFAIR Ubuntu insists on it). I find when I need to do admin tasks that I am doing them for a little while, so I don't want to have to keep adding "sudo" in front of every command.

#14 Installation » Sources List all Non-Free ? » 2018-11-07 16:32:38

Duke Nukem
Replies: 27

Hi, I've been using Devuan since the first beta, but only just joined the forum on occasion of installing ASCII.

Looking at the repositories in my sources.list as installed by default, they are all suffixed with "non-free contrib", which is not like in the list on the Download Page here: https://devuan.org/get-devuan.  I don't care much if it is free or non-free, but am I missing something? Should I add the repository addresses without the suffixes (or just remove the suffixes)? What does "contrib" mean? I cannot remember what was in the sources.list in my previous installations. Thanks for any help.

PS : I have just found a previous thread from which I gather that it was a choice I made during installation to allow non-free stuff.  But my question is, does the non-free depository contain the free stuff as a subset, or should I nominate both the free and the non-free repositories in my sources.list?

Here is my sources.list :-

deb cdrom:[devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1]/ ascii main non-free

deb http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib
deb-src http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib

deb http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main non-free contrib
deb-src http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main non-free contrib

deb http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main non-free contrib
deb-src http://gb.deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main non-free contrib

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