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#1 Re: Installation » Devuan repository with insecure connection? Can't be ... » 2023-09-17 10:59:57

Altoid wrote:

What's going on?

The download link uses "http" instead of "https".

Go ahead and download it, but be sure to check the package before installing it.

Like so:

sha256sum -c file-name.deb

Then compare the output with the published value listed on the web page for that package. The values should match.

#2 Re: Devuan » Qemu shared folder » 2023-09-05 21:19:23

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

I've used this. It works. I like the fact that a normal, non-root user can write to the shared directory from the guest system. I seem to recall that on VirtualBox I always had to be root in order to do that.

#3 Re: Devuan » Question for devs... Debian 12 can be installed without systemd » 2023-09-05 21:09:06

Camtaf wrote:

AntiX & MX Linux developers have been supplying Debian systemd free distros since the original debacle. smile

I did hint that they might like to use Devuan instead, but they stuck with Debian, so, yes, it can be done. wink

I looked at antiX not so long ago. I forget when, but it was within the last several years. And when I did, it was clear to me that they are using some packages from Devuan.

Here is one quick example:

Format: 3.0 (quilt)
Source: policykit-1
Binary: policykit-1, policykit-1-doc, gir1.2-polkit-1.0, libpolkit-agent-1-0, libpolkit-agent-1-dev, libpolkit-gobject-1-0, libpolkit-gobject-1-dev, libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0, libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-dev, libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0, libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-dev
Architecture: any all
Version: 0.105-31.0nosystemd3
Origin: Devuan
Maintainer: Devuan Dev Team <>
Uploaders: Svante Signell <>, Dimitri Puzin <>, Daniel Reurich <>, Mark Hindley <>
Standards-Version: 4.5.0
Testsuite: autopkgtest
Build-Depends: dbus <!nocheck>, debhelper-compat (= 12), gobject-introspection (>= 0.9.12-4~), gtk-doc-tools, intltool (>= 0.40.0), libexpat1-dev, libgirepository1.0-dev (>= 0.9.12), libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.28.0), libglib2.0-doc, libgtk-3-doc, libpam0g-dev, libselinux1-dev [linux-any], libelogind-dev [linux-any], pkg-config, xsltproc
 gir1.2-polkit-1.0 deb introspection optional arch=any
 libpolkit-agent-1-0 deb libs optional arch=any
 libpolkit-agent-1-dev deb libdevel optional arch=any
 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 deb oldlibs optional arch=all
 libpolkit-gobject-1-dev deb oldlibs optional arch=all
 libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0 deb libs optional arch=any
 libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-dev deb libdevel optional arch=any
 libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 deb libs optional arch=any
 libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-dev deb libdevel optional arch=any
 policykit-1 deb admin optional arch=linux-any
 policykit-1-doc deb doc optional arch=all
 53d56484a5bffb0aaf645c8d813b3063e01e8423 1431080 policykit-1_0.105.orig.tar.gz
 f149eb562acc449182c0c5e4394e72ad635c4d27 83144 policykit-1_0.105-31.0nosystemd3.debian.tar.xz
 8fdc7cc8ba4750fcce1a4db9daa759c12afebc7901237e1c993c38f08985e1df 1431080 policykit-1_0.105.orig.tar.gz
 e0d18d5ab59d94157aea4f3665cedeb091a9173d2b558242e01bcbe917c3044c 83144 policykit-1_0.105-31.0nosystemd3.debian.tar.xz
 9c29e1b6c214f0bd6f1d4ee303dfaed9 1431080 policykit-1_0.105.orig.tar.gz
 eecb14d72cdd7c8e7b7b2a26a0c609f1 83144 policykit-1_0.105-31.0nosystemd3.debian.tar.xz

Source: … stemd3.dsc

#4 Re: Other Issues » K3B without udisks2? » 2023-08-23 07:07:36

This might be possible, with some difficulty. Back in 2017 I created a Debian Jessie live CD that used SysVinit instead of systemd. Since I wanted this system to fit on a CD, I excluded as much stuff as possible that wasn't needed for the purpose for which it was designed. As a result, there was no udisks present, nor a bunch of related packages. It was possible because I found a file manager that could mount disks without it -- SpaceFM.

#5 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop » 2023-08-08 00:35:11

Thank-you. Okay, here are the results:


# dmesg | grep -i keyboard
[   13.000115] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input8
[   22.030425] ideapad_acpi VPC2004:00: Keyboard backlight control not available


# xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ PixArt USB Optical Mouse                	id=10	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ ELAN Touchscreen                        	id=11	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard             	id=5	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                            	id=6	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                               	id=7	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                            	id=8	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sleep Button                            	id=9	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Lenovo EasyCamera : Lenovo Easy         	id=12	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Ideapad extra buttons                   	id=13	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard            	id=14	[slave  keyboard (3)]

#6 Devuan Derivatives » Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop » 2023-08-07 16:32:47

Replies: 3

I was planning to install Refracta 11.2 on a Lenovo Ideapad S210 Touch "netbook"; however, after the live system fully loads the touchpad and keyboard do not work at all. A USB mouse that I plugged in works, so that's an acceptable temporary workaround for the nonfunctional touchpad, but I still need a working keyboard to use the installer.

I also tried SystemRescue (formerly SystemRescueCD). With SystemRescue, the touchpad is also nonfunctional, but the keyboard works just fine. With a USB mouse plugged in, I was able to prepare the HDD by deleting all of the Windows partitions.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I should proceed?

#7 Re: Off-topic » AI on mainstream media » 2023-06-05 01:35:29

fanderal wrote:

Perhaps the AI 'bias' (lying) is to facilitate the perspective below?

Planet Lockdown
Catherine Austin Fitts Interview
Dec 29, 2020
NOTE: video was banned on facebook and youtube in Feb 2021 after 20+M views
48:28 … Lockdown:f

Thank you, thank you, thank you. That is the best interview of Catherine Austin Fitts that I have ever watched.

Here is another great interview that is more recent:

Financial System - Lawless Criminal Control Syndicate – Catherine Austin Fitts … fitts.html

#8 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » EXT4 BUG? Data loss when I have launched sigil :s » 2023-05-27 20:32:59

It's fairly well known that the design of EXT4 favors speed over data integrity, which is why I always use tune2fs to adjust the filesystem parameters after creating an EXT4 filesystem (if I care about the data on that partition). I'd post the command that I use, but I am currently composing this message on a Windows laptop, and don't have easy access to my notes.

Even so, I doubt that EXT4 is the culprit in this case. My intuition is telling me that you may have somehow gotten a hold of a trojanized (malicious) version of Sigil, as unlikely as that may seem. Since that's probably not the case, perhaps you were just hit with a rare, nasty bug (though not necessarily in ext4).

This information may be helpful:

How to verify that package-installed files match originals? … -originals

#9 Re: Off-topic » AI on mainstream media » 2023-05-15 03:23:51

golinux wrote:

I guarantee you AI will learn how to lie because it imitates its creators . . .

I saw a short clip from a recent Elon Musk interview. In it, he mentioned that AI is already being taught to lie.

#10 Re: Other Issues » cannot load webpage from my debian computer » 2023-05-07 19:20:29

It's not working for me either. However, if I disconnect from my normal internet connection and reconnect using AT&T wireless internet, then the page loads fine.

#11 Re: Installation » daedalus amd64 netinstall iso installer graphics displayed incorrect » 2023-04-30 22:26:10

Is there a non-graphical (TUI) option in the installer? If so, you may want to try that. Although it's slightly more annoying to use than the GUI installer (because one must use the keyboard and not the mouse), it's not too difficult to use.

#12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How do I get USB to RCA connection to work? » 2023-04-30 17:57:50

amc252 wrote:

Just to be clear, my doubt is not how can connect the laptop to the digital TV. As I said, it has the monitor port so I could use that.
The USB to RCA audio & video does exist and you can see a pic here: … share_link
The fact that I found such a cable is in fact what got me wondering if connecting this way was possible.

Even though there are companies selling such cables, don't misinterpret that and assume that they must work. There are plenty of companies willing to sell worthless products if people are willing to buy them. I looked at the reviews for two such cables that I found on Amazon. For both cables there are multiple reviews claiming that the cables don't work and are worthless. If they do work at all, it's possible that the cables only work for very specific use cases.

Is there a good reason that you are considering doing this instead of using the simplest and most straightforward solution possible?

#13 Re: Off-topic » Musings on Alpine » 2023-04-24 19:45:28

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I have the greatest of respect for the antiX developers but the distribution makes some very opinionated design choices and I strongly disagree with almost all of them. I'm fighting it every step of the way.

Perhaps you could sidestep those issues by starting with antiX-core ("no gui environment") or antiX-net ("no X"). At least I hope that's the case, because that is what I was thinking of doing.

#14 Re: Off-topic » Obarun » 2022-12-08 19:23:03

That's unfortunate. My hope is that we can learn some things from this distro. Perhaps some of the better ideas/features could be incorporated into Debian/Devuan -- or one of their derivatives.

#15 Off-topic » Obarun » 2022-12-07 22:33:07

Replies: 3

Out of curiosity, I recently decided to try Obarun. Even though it's running in a rather limited (only 1560 MB of RAM) virtual machine on a 12-year-old computer, it boots up surprisingly fast and is quite responsive. I'm using it with the JWM window manager.

#16 Re: Other Issues » Hdd CHS values... recover files » 2022-12-02 06:25:06

Do you have a larger HDD with at least 3TB of free space? If so, you should make an image backup of the drive using GNU ddrescue.

Package info:

If you're interested, I may have some links to some ddrescue tutorials. I need to look for them, and it's past my bedtime, so it will have to wait until later.

#17 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2022-11-20 03:11:42

Devarch wrote:

Why not dnscrypt-proxy?

I haven't gotten around to trying that yet.

Devarch wrote:

Blocklists are not enough. Ublock or smth else is a must.

I agree. I like NoScript and uBlock Origin. I usually use one or the other, but I've seen some people recommend using both together (with NoScript set to "Allow Scripts Globally"), a combination I have not tried.

#18 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2022-11-18 21:05:34

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

To stop Google's Analytics tracking you across the web simply install the official GA opt-out add-on for your browser:

You can also block Google Analytics using your hosts file or, like I do, using dnsmasq.

#19 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2022-11-05 18:49:53

Since the topic of the thread is Google, I thought I'd link to a video I just watched:

Do You Want to Tether Your Life to Google? How to Resist … esist.html

Even though the video is fairly short, his coverage of the topic is quite thorough.

#20 Re: Installation » How to make sure that the system is restored after a breakdown? » 2022-10-23 18:21:58

Try using aptitude. It is much better at dealing with dependency problems. You may need to install it.

Like this:

# apt install aptitude

Then try this:

# aptitude -f install

Be sure to read the output very carefully before allowing aptitude to do anything.

#21 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] TP-Link AX3000 (Archer TX3000E) PCIe WiFi card not working on Refracta » 2022-10-23 17:27:27

I did a test installation of Chimaera-based Refracta on an external laptop HDD. I couldn't get the Wi-Fi card working, so I then tried a test installation of Refracta based on Daedalus. After enabling Wi-Fi using connman, I was able to see and connect to the router. However, internet access was still not working. I then had the idea to disable the onboard LAN (wired Ethernet adapter) in the BIOS, and after I did that I had working wireless internet.

Based on my experience with Daedalus, I decided to try Chimaera again. This time, after installing the firmware packages, I installed linux-image-amd64 and linux-headers-amd64 from Chimaera backports. I then rebooted, disabled the onboard LAN again, and when the system came back up I had working wireless internet. Yay!

#22 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » ACPI 2.0 question » 2022-10-20 21:23:54

Thanks for the suggestion. It tried it and most of the messages are related to missing firmware. A couple are related to ACPI, though:

# dmesg | grep -i "error\|warning\|fail\|segfault\|fatal" | grep -i acpi
[    0.531264] acpi PNP0A08:00: _OSC failed (AE_NOT_FOUND); disabling ASPM
[    3.900266] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000828-0x000000000000082F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000800-0x000000000000084F (\PMRG) (20200925/utaddress-213)

#23 Devuan Derivatives » Refracta - HDD space required? » 2022-10-15 14:56:41

Replies: 2

I was wondering how much disk space is needed for Refracta. I have an old laptop HDD in an external case that I was thinking of using for a test installation. I believe that there is a 7.5 GB, Windows 2000 partition on that HDD that I could sacrifice for the test installation. Would that be big enough? I'm not planning to install any software, just some firmware packages.

Also, I noticed that the forum link on the Refracta website appears to be dead. It should probably be replaced with this link.

#24 Re: Other Issues » Broken after dist-upgrade Daedalus » 2022-10-14 19:26:25

Monitoring this forum may be helpful for Ceres users:

Siduction Forum » Upgrade Warnings (DE / EN)

Of course, that's more applicable to Debian than Devuan, but monitoring that forum is likely be at least somewhat helpful for Ceres users.

#25 Re: Devuan » Devuan kFreeBSD » 2022-10-14 18:58:54

I believe that the Hyperbola Project working on something similar. Maybe giving them a hand would be the way to go.

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