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#1 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » BlackLotus malware, Secure Boot and Windows machines » 2023-03-02 23:28:50

I saw this and wondered if there were any repercussions for distros that use the Microsoft signing key?

It also highlights the issues with the UK governments Online Safety Bill and the EU Chat Control

#2 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Anyone where to find more cartoony old icons for jwm? » 2023-02-24 22:59:15

I guess you meant CC BY-NC 4.0 or similar version.

Lots of things could have changed the license either way and there and back again.

#3 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Anyone where to find more cartoony old icons for jwm? » 2023-02-24 16:58:55

Nice icon set but I always thought they were non-free in a GNU sense If they're the same icons as these … e-72080962

Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 License

#4 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Anyone where to find more cartoony old icons for jwm? » 2023-02-16 15:03:20

My fav theme if I can be bothered. I love how you get the source svg's so can modify them easily. Gpl'd

#5 Re: News & Announcements » X.Org Security Advisory: Security issue in the X server » 2023-02-08 17:18:41

startx /usr/bin/wm or startx /usr/local/bin/wm then chuck it in my .bashrc with an one letter alias then fire up "auto" again another alias auto=/path/to/ At least until I'm happy everything works as it should... I guess I'm a Cave Man. :-)

#6 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] How to increase the SWAP partition » 2023-01-10 11:11:37

Maybe of use to some here:

This is a system daemon for the Linux kernel that eliminates the need for large, fixed swap partitions.

Usually when you install a GNU/Linux system, it sets up a swap partition on disk. The swap partition serves as virtual memory, so you may need a lot of it. But you can't store data there, so you don't want to sacrifice too much disk space. And it's not always easy, or safe, to change its size afterwards!

Running swapspace solves that problem. You no longer need a large swap partition. You can even do without the whole thing. The program manages swap files for you. These work just like partitions, except they're normal files. You can add more when you need them, or delete some when you want the disk space back. And that is exactly what swapspace does. It constantly monitors your system's virtual-memory needs and manages a pool of swap files accordingly.

With swapspace you can install GNU/Linux in one single big partition, without regrets later about picking the wrong size. Your system can handle the occasional memory-intensive task, without eating up disk space that you'll never get back.

#7 Re: Off-topic » Lennart Poettering (Systemd) Lands at Microsoft After Leaving Red Hat » 2022-12-09 15:06:56

Blackhole ^

I would say I agree with most of that. Many licences are not used in the spirit they were written. I see gpl3+ code where the copyright holder will offer "bespoke licencing" i.e. proprietary. Which is why I like gpl code copyright to be assigned to the FSF and even that’s by no means perfect.

Stallmans approach of treating un-updatable firmware as hardware was a fudge in my opinion but necessary for the time, though I suspect ultimately detrimental it was better than the situation have now where firmware is closed and upgradable. Further locking down hardware.

I saw the Linux Kernel removed scrolling from the console recently. Just as I'm gearing up for life in a console because the desktop is becoming so locked down with corporate systems. I foresee the value of older computers increasing as new hardware becomes more and more enslaved.

Theo de Raadt may also believe in the spirit of permissive licencing.  Being a free/libe-software supporter I could understand why the word permissive was chosen, it sound like it's liberating you but by it's very nature "open source" means "closed source" equally as much so enslaving you too.
I always think of the FreeBSD devs getting upset with Apple switched to OSX took their code and gave little back. Apple don’t operate in the same spirit.

At the end of the day I don't want to be enslaved by proprietary software so that's why I have leaning towards the four freedoms no matter how imperfect.

#8 Re: Off-topic » Lennart Poettering (Systemd) Lands at Microsoft After Leaving Red Hat » 2022-12-03 20:54:14

apologies Hoas for forgetting the link.

Theo de Raadt quote ref:

There's a lot I like about the BSDs technically but IMHO ethically they suck donkey balls. Particularly their "acceptable licenses" which has a very anti GPL/copyleft and with a strong pro proprietary stance. They are blood suckers with no real care about freedom issues. The free software user is like some chained peasant fed on enough crumbs to keep barely alive so as to feed the resident vampire. This is easy to see in their "goals" where they are actively trying to remove the GPL. No doubt because if affects their corporate funding. There is no ethical aim in any BSD and there never will be.


"Integrate good code from any source with acceptable licenses. ISC or Berkeley style licences are preferred, the GPL is not acceptable when adding new code, NDAs are never acceptable. We want to make available source code that anyone can use for ANY PURPOSE, with no restrictions. We strive to make our software robust and secure, and encourage companies to use whichever pieces they want to. There are commercial spin-offs of OpenBSD. "

Now on the surface this seems very open and transparent. But what drives this why do they even bother sharing their source code when they  clearly want to support closed source proprietary systems. Well the answer is pretty obvious really. The original code is from publicly (government so tax payers dollar) funded educational and military institutions. They had no choice. As the importance of the software grew so did the Proprietary interest and funding and so the never ending circle began.

Re the BSD take on: “acceptable licenses”

"GNU General Public License, GPL, LGPL, copyleft, etc.

The GNU Public License and licenses modeled on it impose the restriction that source code must be distributed or made available for all works that are derivatives of the GNU copyrighted code.

While this may superficially look like a noble strategy, it is a condition that is typically unacceptable for commercial use of software. So in practice, it usually ends up hindering free sharing and reuse of code and ideas rather than encouraging it. As a consequence, no additional software bound by the GPL terms will be considered for inclusion into the OpenBSD base system.

For historical reasons, the OpenBSD base system still includes the following GPL-licensed components: the GNU compiler collection (GCC) with supporting binutils and libraries, GNU CVS, GNU texinfo, the mkhybrid file system creation tool, and the readline library. Replacement by equivalent, more freely licensed tools is a long-term desideratum."


In short the BSDs are happy to use the libre GNU utils to build their system but then want to obliterate it. Not just from their code base but entirely just like Google. Fuck em I say. They just want to destroy libre software and them no doubt revise their shitty license and we’ll all be stuck in shrink wrapped proprietary purgatory al-la Microsoft again.


The idea that the GPL is anti commerce is beyond absurd and nothing more than FUD. Anti proprietary slaveware yes, anti commercial never.


Commercial software

“Commercial” and “proprietary” are not the same! Commercial software is software developed by a business as part of its business. Most commercial software is proprietary, but there is commercial free software, and there is non commercial nonfree software.

For example, GNU Ada is developed by a company. It is always distributed under the terms of the GNU GPL, and every copy is free software; but its developers sell support contracts. When their salesmen speak to prospective customers, sometimes the customers say, “We would feel safer with a commercial compiler.” The salesmen reply, “GNU Ada is a commercial compiler; it happens to be free software.”

For the GNU Project, the priorities are in the other order: the important thing is that GNU Ada is free software; that it is commercial is just a detail. However, the additional development of GNU Ada that results from its being commercial is definitely beneficial.

Please help spread the awareness that free commercial software is possible. You can do this by making an effort not to say “commercial” when you mean “proprietary.”


Non free firmware is a minor concern in running any BSD. The major issue is it's funded and driven by proprietary loving companies and so shackled to their needs and desires. No-one but the most deluded libertarian fuckwit would think this is an advancement in peoples liberty.

PS. SystemD sucks almost as much as it part of the same disease.  :-p Thank fuck I'll be dead before I'm forced between choosing that and going back to pen and paper and a megaphone for unfettered communication.

#9 Re: Off-topic » Lennart Poettering (Systemd) Lands at Microsoft After Leaving Red Hat » 2022-12-02 11:22:26

It seem to me that if the firmware is distributable Theo is happy include it.

Theo de Raadt: Quite honestly I prefer chips which have no firmware, and instead use correctly designed hardware logic, which our driver must then drive. Note that most ethernet chipsets do not use a processor, but many scsi chipsets do. Most IDE chipsets do not, but for wireless devices ... it is about half and half. This clearly has to do with the complexity of the data flow problem being dealt with.

But in the end, if we wish to support any such devices, we must be practical. We must accept the risk that there is a flaw in the firmware. (Is that not what many of us have been coping with for years now with Prism wireless chipsets and their firmware update tools?) But the legal climate is a real problem for us -- that is why we must get copyright permission to distribute the firmware images. Once they are distributed... at least the device works.

#10 Re: Off-topic » Lennart Poettering (Systemd) Lands at Microsoft After Leaving Red Hat » 2022-11-29 14:32:22

"BSD systems

FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all include instructions for obtaining nonfree programs in their ports system. In addition, their kernels include nonfree firmware blobs.

Nonfree firmware programs used with Linux, the kernel, are called “blobs,” and that's how we use the term. In BSD parlance, the term “blob” means something else: a nonfree driver. OpenBSD and perhaps other BSD distributions (called “projects” by BSD developers) have the policy of not including those. That is the right policy, as regards drivers; but when the developers say these distributions “contain no blobs,” it causes a misunderstanding. They are not talking about firmware blobs.

None of those BSD distributions has policies against proprietary binary-only firmware that might be loaded even by free drivers."

#11 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » mc, files scrolling by dragging mouse? » 2022-11-26 23:33:48

I'm on 4.8.27 on Slackware.
RMB and drag selects for me. Though MC has way more config options than I need.
It will does scroll if I select files higher or lower than the visible window but for plain scrolling I use mouse wheel or page up/down like steve_v. 

scrolling by pulling mouse + LMB pressed works only downways, not upways. is the behavior I get.

#13 Re: Off-topic » OT nonsense » 2022-07-25 12:57:54

kyuss wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

What is this? Fuckwit month?

No refunds vaxxie.

Double fuckwit month.

charliebrownau. I take it you're an albino Indigenous Australian.

#14 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-02-24 14:22:42

The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power … Capitalism

#15 Re: Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-22 12:50:45

golinux wrote:

Hey Kelsoo . . . it's been a while,  Nice to see you. smile ...............
Wishing you good health !

Thanks. I visit here most days.

The biggest disease on the planet is not covid. It's centralised social media, it's data collection and it's use.  Many have been sold a system where convenience comes with the price of free thought.  Each click separates us more and more because profit has no conscience, they don't care on which side of a debate you're so long as you click.  CSM needs a cure fast because it poisons the whole of society.  Life choices are not so binary and way more subtle.  Removing this poison allows all to move towards a more common ground.

From one to satan to another  :-)

I recall going on anti GMO demos  20 years a go, ripping up plants from the test fields. Generally folk created such a stink that GMO are quite mistrusted here in the UK and the market opportunities less. Cheese is the one place I see things labelled as GMO. As for organics for the last 20 years I'm fortunate enough to have access to a one acre organic garden similar orchard and 12 acres of woodland. My diet has a very high percentage of organic veg and is GMO free.

I'm familiar with older varieties of wheat - spelt etc. Oats and rice I can stomach both are gluten free. I used to be the main "bread maker" and loved experimenting.  We used to buy organic dried goods in bulk.  25KG bags. But since my illness we've had to reduced the volume.

I tend to use potatoes as my main form of carbohydrate. We have one of the best sources of seed potatoes in all of Scotland just down the road and usually grow enough to not have to buy any all year. Pink fir apple is a gem of a potato. … 000006319/

#16 Re: Off-topic » The seitan conundrum » 2022-02-20 21:44:30

golinux wrote:

[A very off-topic  response]

xinomilo wrote:

not really into appearance/theme stuff, but mentioning the island where i live, caught my eye smile

Lucky you!  In the 70s I spent 2 summers sailing with a friend from Guernsey to France across the Bay of Biscay to Spain, Portugal, then Tangier, though the Straits of Gibraltar, more Spain and finally Ibiza.  We really wanted to make it all the way to Greece but chatter about pirates from N. Africa targeting Westerners dampened our resolve to actually do it.  LOL!  Sad that I never was able to fulfill that pipe dream . . .

xinomilo wrote:

p.s. in case anyone wonders, picture is from "Seitan Limania" beach.

I am a bit confused  how this Japanese delight got to Greece. But then, I'm confused about a lot of things . . . LOL!

As far as I'm concerned Satan is a cracking name for Seitan. The wheat meat, gluten meat, thing or any gluten. I have suffered with IBD for years after wrongly being told I had IBS and "It was down to my age and I would have to live with it". A chance change in my diet which by most measures has been considered very healthy has transformed my gut health and quality of life.

At first I removed bread, then wheat, then all cereal grain from my diet. Thinking about it I don't have four stomachs so no wonder my guts complained about me eating grass! No sugar. No processed food apart from a limited amount of dairy. No additives, sugar, sauces or flavouring etc.

I like things nice n easy. No having to read labels and research every produce I might want to eat. Hence my diet is nice n easy to. No bullshit make believe pasta or GF bread etc.

Food: Plain unadulterated veg, fruit, meat (red and white), fish, nuts&seeds, eggs, 3 dairy products milk, hard cheese, and yogurt.

Drink: water, 100% fruit juice, tea, coffee, whisky, cider, wine.
Note: Distilled spirits only contain gluten if added after distillation. Cider, wine, sherry, spirits, port and liqueurs are gluten free.

Condiments & stuff: salt (rarely), pepper, chilli oil (home made), honey, herbs, spices

Result is happy guts, no daily steroids, an extra hour a day to do things I like doing, I'm less hungry and have more energy. Minus 12kg, though I put this down to no beer! If you like your conspiracy theories look up the Chorleywood bread process and Gliadin protein it's considered an opiate.

#17 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-02-05 01:40:43

Don't talk wet

You I and everyone else knows a Default Slackware install includes loads of crap because there is no dependency checking. It's a big fat system that is expected to only be patched as and when required (think like next update in 5 years).

Many Slackers will criticize minimal Slackware installs as "Not Slackware". Storage is cheap, Even though I try and run light, gone are the days of me taking my 100mb zip disk to collage to store my  Graphic design work on!

That doesn't meant you cant build a lighter Slackware system. For that you use tags. Even that in my opinion is shit  because that's not how it's designed to work.

If you want to compare Apples at least compare them against other Apples.... Not Oranges

I have 2 Slackware based machines. One full install (well one freenix so I guess not full full) but close. Another minimal tag based and my builds. (maybe a couple hundred packages).  No where near as light as my D2 base system but light compared to may other systems.

A more useful comparison would be your Alpine system with and without wayland.

Dryanuary is well and truly over! Have fun and is your Alpine system running "Bonkers Gnome" :-)

#18 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2022-01-25 17:33:51

Been playing around with shod a mouse driven tabbed wm.

It's based on ideas from notion (my daily driver) plan 9 and others and very unixy. Very easy to build and use. Beta or better quality atm but most definitely usable now. Light weight (1MB in ps_mem). I have it running with fittstool and wmbubble and that's enough once setup. i.e. workspace switching with mouse wheel, killing session etc..

I also have xclickroot, xmenu and pmenu from the same developer just to check them out.

clean 2022-01-25-093725-clean.png

pmenu (pi-menu) 2022-01-25-pi-menu-scrot.png

dirty nested/tabbed  terminals 2022-01-25-094218-dirty-terms.png

dirty nested/tabbed guis 2022-01-25-094605-dirty-gui.png

#19 Re: Other Issues » Suggestions for a good simple alarm clock/timer » 2022-01-20 11:27:48

In a similar fashion with ogg123 you can use the -Z option 

-Z, --random
Play files in pseudo-random order forever.

ogg123 -Z  ~/path/to/loud-song.ogg 

The obvious thing to note if using as an alarm is make sure you only have loud files in the directory.

Incidentally I was woken at 7;30 AM this morning with this blasting in my ears

Hence, I can recommend reading the man page at a sane time of day! If using the at command you can check the queue with


and clear items in it with atrm queue number

atrm 1 2 4 8


#20 Re: Other Issues » Suggestions for a good simple alarm clock/timer » 2022-01-19 14:28:04

While sleep is fine and super easy to remember for boiling a kettle, it's not so good as an alarm. For that the "at" command is handy.

at -t # cc=century yy=year  mm=month dd=day hh=hour mm=minute .ss=seconds (note the dot!) or just don't bother with .ss

Set the time to run

at -t 202201192359

press return

Command to run  e.g.   

ogg123 ~/Music/Rock/loud-song.ogg

press return
press ctrl D

That's it. see "man at" for more options like

Boil an egg

at now + 3 minutes

press "return"

ogg123 ~/path/to/loud-song.ogg

press "return" then press "ctrl D"

I believe  the return after ogg123 ~/path/to/loud-song.ogg is not strictly necessary but I've found it more intuitive and it doesn't hurt. In other words muscle memory. I keep doing it and it works fine! :-$

To switch off the alarm smile

killall ogg123

Morning alarm clock

at 7:30 AM tomorrow

press "return"

ogg123 ~/Music/Rock/loud-song.ogg

press "return" then press "ctrl D"

Note make sure your volume is up!

#21 Re: Other Issues » Suggestions for a good simple alarm clock/timer » 2022-01-18 22:57:32

sleep 300 ; mplayer loud-song.ogg

  works for me

#22 Re: Off-topic » Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas » 2021-12-28 18:01:56

Never trust a BMW rider (or driver) :-P

#23 Re: Off-topic » Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas » 2021-12-24 21:04:29

golinux wrote:

The solstice is the only event worth noting.  All the rest is just human fantasy.  wink

Not on my planet :-P   

.....whisky again

My excuse is real but a bit of a stretch... I'm gluten intolerant  so can no longer drink beer!!!!  Anyway: Greetings and good will to all freetards and init deviants

#24 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2021-12-09 07:11:10

Slackware (freenix) notion4 -mc and htop

I'm loving notion and the latest htop finaly has date and time and resizable colums. mc is almost to complex but very powerful my new toy!   


#25 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Need to reset root password » 2021-12-01 17:37:03

Just copy all the required text from an existing document or website in to a text file and delete what you need until you have your password in the file.

su  select the text and middle click in the terminal press enter not return

edit: Then change your password :-)

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