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#2426 Re: Installation » Latest devuan jessie update causing authentication problems » 2018-07-31 14:02:56

nixer wrote:

Make sure you have the latest sources.  auto.mirror is deprecated and  deb.devuan.org has replaced pkgmaster.

I knew that this was true starting with ASCII but is it also the preferred sources for jessie also?  I got hit with this same problem.

Devuan.org ( https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list ) still shows:

Devuan 1.0.0 Jessie (oldstable)

# /etc/apt/sources.list

deb     http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie main
deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie main

That is because auto.mirror is still default on the install isos.  This is at the very top of the page:

/etc/apt/sources.list

IMPORTANT NOTE: auto.mirror is now deprecated and will be decommissioned. Please make sure you have the latest devuan-keyring package with apt-get install devuan-keyring and then point your /etc/apt/sources.list to deb.devuan.org.

Maybe that should be expanded a bit.

#2427 Re: Installation » Latest devuan jessie update causing authentication problems » 2018-07-31 05:17:52

Make sure you have the latest sources.  auto.mirror is deprecated and  deb.devuan.org has replaced pkgmaster.

#2428 Re: News & Announcements » How you can help Devuan » 2018-07-31 00:29:32

UnclePa wrote:

Is there a list of Debian packages that depend on systemd that need importing to Devuan or that have been imported but need maintainers?

Here you go.  Feel free to scratch your itch.  Please look at the d1h for packaging guidance, though iirc one call to Debian has changed.  Don't know if that's been fixed yet.  Thanks for your interest in wanting to do this.  Any questions, just ask.

#2429 Re: Installation » MIYO "install" button seems to do nothing » 2018-07-30 23:33:38

walterbyrd wrote:

This time, I selected to put the bootloader on a partition.

I don't know your setup but generally the bootloader needs to go on the disk not  a specific partition ie. sda not sda1.

#2430 Re: Devuan » A devuan manual, why not? » 2018-07-30 23:15:32

We have already planned to do that.  It is the Devuan specific documentation that needs to be written.  msi was working on it but has disappeared.  Volunteers come and go . . .

@ChuangTzu . . . You have been rather absent.  Please don't be a stranger.

#2431 Re: Installation » My devuan_ascii need to be reiniciated. » 2018-07-30 17:16:53

@keos . . . I noticed you listed the devuan_ascii_2.0.0-rc_amd64_desktop-live.iso.  Are you aware that the stable version was released in June?  An upgraded RC should get you to the same place but using the stable iso is a more direct way to do it.

#2432 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Slim login screen spans across 2 monitors as if one monitor » 2018-07-30 14:33:10

@spacefft . . . as this seems to be a CrowZ specific issue, I moved it to the derivatives forum.

#2433 Re: Documentation » Local Mirror Package Caching using approx and xinetd » 2018-07-30 01:14:53

PeteGozz wrote:

Hi
Um yeah lost my password smile

For future reference . . . all you have to do is ping one of the admins to get a new one.

PeteGozz wrote:

Thought I would/should contribute some tested configs I have here.
The spin offs just from this one could probably fill a small book.

Your contributions are always welcome.  Don't be a stranger . . .

#2434 Re: Documentation » Local Mirror Package Caching using approx and xinetd » 2018-07-30 01:03:29

WOW!  Nice to see you PeteGozz.  It's been way too long . . .

#2436 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » In search of a privacy oriented browser » 2018-07-29 00:15:51

Brave browser from Wikipedia:

History

Brave is developed by Brave Software, which was founded on May 28, 2015 by Brendan Eich and Brian Bondy. On January 20, 2016, Brave Software launched the first version of Brave with a partial ad blocking feature, and announced plans for an ad replacement feature and a revenue sharing program.[13]

In June 2018, Brave released a pay-to-surf testing version of the browser. This version of Brave is preloaded with approximately 250 ads, and sends a detailed log of the user's browsing activity to Brave. Brave announced that expanded trials will follow.[14]

Doesn't sound very private to me.

#2437 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » In search of a privacy oriented browser » 2018-07-28 23:28:56

MiyoLinux wrote:

There's also the Brave browser (based on Chromium), but the last time I tried it, it was a memory hog.

Isn't Brave browser the one that wants to force "acceptable" ads on users?  No thank you!!

#2438 Re: Installation » Installation without Session management and policykit backends » 2018-07-26 06:14:56

FYI . . . It looks possible to remove if you don't install the meta package.

# apt-cache rdepends xfce4-session
xfce4-session
Reverse Depends:
  xfce4-session-dbg
  xfce4

Here we are having heat that could fry an egg on pavement.  A few days ago was over 110 F.

#2439 Re: Installation » libssl-dev installation problem » 2018-07-25 15:36:00

Please see this page for current repository information.   auto.mirror is now deprecated and you need more than just security in your sources.list.  Hopefully that will fix things.

In the future please enclose terminal output in code tags as corrected above.

#2440 Re: Installation » Installation without Session management and policykit backends » 2018-07-25 14:52:09

You might consider taking this discussion to #devuan-dev on freenode or the DNG mail list.  Keep in mind though that things are a bit slow in the middle of summer up north.

#2441 Re: Installation » Installation without Session management and policykit backends » 2018-07-25 07:28:19

The functionality of xfce4-session requires either consolekit or elogind to have a working DM.  It took weeks if not months of collaborative effort to figure out how to get working DMs for all the desktops.  Since you are using startx, that package might not be necessary.  Just for giggles did you try removing "xfce4-session" entirely instead of just one of it's components?

#2442 Re: Installation » Installation without Session management and policykit backends » 2018-07-24 06:23:46

@campus . . . Don't install the meta package.  Instead install everything you want from it manually and leave out the stuff you don't want.   Or remove the unwanted dependencies from the meta package and repackage it.

#2443 Re: Installation » Installation without Session management and policykit backends » 2018-07-23 16:10:33

OK . . . here's what irrwahn had to say:

<Irrwahn> golinux: My guess is it hinges on xfce4 (that is the package going by this exact name, not the DE in general), which depends on xfce4-session, which depends on polkit stuff, which in turn depends on either consolekit or elogind.

If you install xfce without the meta package as has been suggested by several of us, you should be able to avoid this issue by choosing the packages carefully to avoid the problematic ones.

And this just posted:

<Irrwahn> At least that is what I see when following up the output of:
<Irrwahn> apt-cache --no-recommends --no-suggests --no-conflicts --no-breaks --no-replaces --no-enhances rdepends *pol*kit* | grep xfce
<Irrwahn> and:
<Irrwahn> apt-cache --no-recommends --no-suggests --no-conflicts --no-breaks --no-replaces --no-enhances rdepends xfce4-session
<Irrwahn> I never tried, but it should be possible to install an xfce4 desktop in ascii from the components without pulling in policykit et.al.
<Irrwahn> Unless of course some other installed package requires polkit - there's a lot that potentially do.

#2444 Re: Installation » Installation without Session management and policykit backends » 2018-07-23 15:40:42

The question is - where is that dependency being generated?   Find the source and you 'should' be able to kill it.  I have pinged irrwahn and hopefully, he will stop by with some suggestions.

#2446 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » gvim can't display bullet symbol [SOLVED] » 2018-07-23 15:09:41

@boycottsystemd . . . please mark this topic as [SOLVED] in the subject line of the first post.

#2447 Re: Installation » Installation without Session management and policykit backends » 2018-07-23 14:42:14

The consolekit/policykit stuff is complicated.  I don't begin to understand it.   But I do know those dependencies come from the login/display manager(s) which control session management. For xfce that is slim.  Maybe try removing slim and use startx instead.  Something in the xfce4 meta package might be pulling that in.

#2448 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Streaming speed with integrated graphic card? » 2018-07-23 14:23:06

Never been to Netflix or Hulu but have watched The Hollow Crown - Richard II (BBC) - all 3 hours of it.  I suppose that not a "real" movie though . . .

#2449 Re: Installation » Installation without Session management and policykit backends » 2018-07-23 07:59:43

Rather than trying to remove installed packages, you might try installing ASCII without choosing a desktop then building Xfce from scratch avoiding the meta package and only selecting the packages that you want.  This may or may not work to your satisfaction or even be possible on ASCII.  But in the past it has been a way to get around having to install unwanted, default  packages

#2450 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Streaming speed with integrated graphic card? » 2018-07-22 18:06:58

I don't have a lappie but I've used nouveau with an Intel Core i3-4130 Haswell Dual-Core 3.4GHz since wheezy days.  I also have done a lot of video editing without a problem.  Of course that machine is almost 4 years old . . .

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