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#1801 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » USB Multiboot » 2019-12-20 16:53:58
Please look at the multi-boot iso that fsmithred made for the Devuan conference in April. That may give you some hints.
#1802 Re: Off-topic » new encroachments of our least favourite init » 2019-12-18 16:48:21
thanks if someone let the post through, its posted.
I didn't touch it. By the time I read your post, it was already there. Perhaps you are too impatient . . .
#1803 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Apt-get show one package per line? » 2019-12-17 01:19:41
Sorry, I don't have an answer for you but I feel your pain. I have always been overwhelmed by the blob of text too. That's one reason I use synaptic which produces a nice neat list that can be manipulated in several ways.
#1804 Re: Documentation » usr merge in Devuan Ascii » 2019-12-15 07:14:16
Just an fyi that the default in beowulf will be NOT to merge but there will be an option in the installer if you want to do the merge.
#1805 Re: Off-topic » new encroachments of our least favourite init » 2019-12-15 00:34:48
He, I and a few others raised hell on debian-users and FDN prior to the first GR. He's a regular on skarnet's supervision list.
https://www.mail-archive.com/supervisio … arnet.org/
http://www.troubleshooters.com/
https://www.freelists.org/archive/modular-debian/
#1806 Re: Off-topic » new encroachments of our least favourite init » 2019-12-14 23:40:59
Windows 11? Couldn't resist.
#1807 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Alternative browser for Devuan/Debian - Brave » 2019-12-13 07:43:11
fsmithred used to care about 32 bit (he likely still does, i havent asked) and roy from techrights still uses it as well.
Yes he cares: https://get.refracta.org/ I also use 32 bit OS. It does everything that I need.
also the idea of using a browser from github is a bit creepy, i consider everything on github controlled by microsoft. that problem is going to get worse before it gets better.
You can vet the code of course. 
Sure it's creepy that ms is in charge of github but that's not really fair to judge devs who suffer from inertia and stay put there.
#1808 Re: Off-topic » This should be fun... » 2019-12-13 05:29:33
Have a look at how FreedomBox handles this: https://discuss.freedombox.org/c/contributor-invites
Maybe publishing a list with open problems that itself is a bit less verbose already would be good enough for Devuan?
Lists of what needs doing has never worked very well. What works is someone seeing/experiencing a problem, figuring out how to fix it and sharing.
#1809 Re: Off-topic » This should be fun... » 2019-12-13 05:25:08
I'm in as always. Just not sure where I can help or how to get started really. Would love to help work fixes into SysV just don't possess the coding background at current to be of much use there, ha.
Reality check. I didn't own a computer (which I didn't really want - it was a gift) till I was near 60. I had zero technical background. Then I wanted to "do things" so I taught myself . . . html and css from scratch in a text editor, graphics, audio and video editing, desktop theming etc . If I didn't like something, I figured out how to fix it, even hacking the registry in my windoze days because I wanted things MY way. My appetite for learning new things and experimenting may not be as voracious as it was all those years ago and tbh, I couldn't pull a bash script out of my head without DDG but I still manage to contribute to Devuan. I bet you could find a niche that suits you if you looked hard enough.
#1810 Re: Off-topic » ill just use the mailing list » 2019-12-12 21:05:14
at any rate, it take hours or more for my emails to end up "lurker" and im not sure theyre all going through at all. i sent one reply that seems to be missing, while other replies to the same thread have shown up
That is a moderated list. I just let you in.
#1811 Re: Off-topic » This should be fun... » 2019-12-12 01:34:23
aut0exec wrote:If Debian goes full systemd, what will this mean for Devuan?
Surely that is the question...
We'll need less yammering and more hands on deck to do actual work.
#1812 Re: Off-topic » ladies, gentlemen and whomever else: your fifth freedom... » 2019-12-11 01:37:22
Different thread: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=18933#p18933
#1813 Re: Off-topic » ill just use the mailing list » 2019-12-11 00:54:03
Simmer down, man! It's not all about you, y'know. I think you are overreacting just a tad. I agree with most of what you've been saying, but you seem to be seeing enemies where they're not.
Well said. Impatience, impulsiveness and drama will derail the best-intentioned efforts.
#1814 Re: Off-topic » ladies, gentlemen and whomever else: your fifth freedom... » 2019-12-11 00:32:14
Whoa!!! That comment was more of a general statement rather than specifically directed at you. I have beat that drum many times on devuan channels. Mostly it falls on deaf ears and that is frustrating yet I keep trying. Perhaps it is true of all software (or other) projects that there are always too few people who will roll up their sleeves and commit. It is also true that we each have our unique talents.
I have held back because I'm not clear on exactly how you would implement the ideas/protections that we have discussed in some detail. If we agree that the 5 "Pillars" of GNU-Linux are the only way to protect truly free software what is the plan to ensure that it becomes the defacto standard?
No need to pick up your marbles and go home. Really. You won't find a more receptive audience than you will here.
#1815 Re: Off-topic » ladies, gentlemen and whomever else: your fifth freedom... » 2019-12-10 22:07:32
if you find a piece of something you can fix, great. but if nobody knows it exists, that sadly wont help much.
Have at it. Plenty of bugs to choose from. We know they exist but it's easier to talk.
Note that some of these reports may not actually be "bugs" but we don't know because no one is checking.
#1816 Re: Off-topic » ladies, gentlemen and whomever else: your fifth freedom... » 2019-12-10 06:47:44
Soon you will not be able to choose not to run systemd. Systemd is "capturing" the GNU-Linux "commons" that we have shared for decades through a web of hard dependencies. The only choice will be not to use GNU-Linux.
#1817 Re: Devuan » Debian considering going systemd init only » 2019-12-10 06:41:37
Blah, blah, blah . . . all this talk is not going to save GNU-Linux. Only DOING can accomplish that.
#1818 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Alternative browser for Devuan/Debian - Brave » 2019-12-09 17:23:50
Has anyone given ungoogled chromium a spin?
#1819 Re: ARM Builds » Is any work planned for devuan on the raspberry pi 4? » 2019-12-09 04:21:42
From the ASCII 2.1 point release announcement
What about ARM and virtual images?
Going forward, ARM and also virtual images will be provided by the greater Devuan community rather than as part of official releases. Users are being encouraged to build and contribute ARM images for their particular hardware. This will increase the variety of images available and allow the release schedule of the installer ISOs to move forward more quickly.
Images can be built using using arm-sdk and vm-sdk: https://devuan.org/os/distro-kit
Arm-related discussion happens at #devuan-arm (Freenode) and https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=24
Images will eventually be available via p2p torrent(s).
#1820 Re: Off-topic » free software force and the free software definition » 2019-12-07 20:19:55
That is pretty much where I got all twisted around trying to make my point.
#1821 Re: Devuan » Debian considering going systemd init only » 2019-12-07 19:12:34
We always knew it wanted to be the systemd OS.
#1822 Re: Off-topic » free software force and the free software definition » 2019-12-07 17:11:15
I have spent quite some time thinking about this and wanted to add a bit of discussion to the Free Software page of the website. I wanted to convey the concept that "free" software that limited users freedoms wasn't really free. Lack of modularity was a primary concern. Then I was reminded that there was the freedom to restore modularity so I've been letting a response around that argument simmer in the back of my mind. Perhaps between us we could come up with something.
Are you related to e e cummings? lol!
#1823 Re: Installation » Netboot, mini.iso files - ascii 2.1 » 2019-12-04 20:11:16
The mini.iso is for internal pre-release testing and not part of an official Devuan release. If you want to run beowulf, install ascii and upgrade. iirc there are some unofficial beowulf options at refracta.org. fsmithred should be able to clarify that.
#1824 Re: Installation » Hash Sun mismatch » 2019-12-01 07:29:48
Would I benefit from using the Country Code in the sources.list?
deb.devuan.org is recommended but you can also choose a mirror from the list of available mirrors that might suit you better.
#1825 Devuan » amprolla magic » 2019-12-01 01:00:26
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What is amprolla and what does it do . . . or not do? At the First Devuan Conference in April, Katolaz' presentation "The Quest for Minimalism" answered these questions. This audio of the amprolla section enhances understanding of the screenshots below.
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