zapper wrote:

Why would anyone even want jessie now that debian 9 has been released?

Couldn't tell ya, I don't use Debian and really wasn't waiting for them to release 9 to start doing so, you'll forgive me if I don't get that excited or ever even really pay attention to what Debian is doing and don't care.

zapper wrote:

We need to work on jessie too granted, but ascii is more important in my opinion.

Why?

Jessie is stable and works, it does every conceivable task I could ask a computer to do and does it well.  By FAR the lion's share of users want exactly that, 99.9% of them couldn't even tell you what a kernel is, much less which one they are using.

The only people clamoring for the latest bleeding edge distro-breaking whizzbangs, are a very few users that need some newer firmware, and a bunch of hardcore linux geeks that must have the latest everything for reasons even they can't fully explain or understand.

Given those facts, it's more than a little ridiculous to try and lobby people like the VUA's (who are trying to make a nice stable operating system for folks to use), to give that up and focus solely on trying to break as many computers as possible with buggy untested unstable software.

Plenty of work to be done on the stable branch, it's just a stable canvas to work on, people haven't even begun to scratch the surface of what it can do, or how to put it together in new and better ways.

And not for nothing but there are plenty of things to fix left by buggy gnome and redbutt annoyance-ware, and if we keep avoiding those issues they will never get fixed, there are bugs in Mate that have been there for over 5 years and before that in gnome2 and are STILL broken, while Mate actually brags (..shudder..) about switching to GTK3.....

Not gonna push the VUA's to do things any faster by making posts demanding they hurry up or by belittling the work they've already done, just gonna piss 'em off eventually and delay things even more.. it's childish and it needs to stop.

People have no idea of the true mountainous amount of work that has to be done to put out a distro like Devuan, no idea at all.

Zapper, sorry, not all this is directed at you, just needed saying and you caught the short straw this time.

Oh! I didn't know you could run without a syslogger. If you want one, there are two other choices that do work in ascii. busybox-syslogd and syslog-ng. (You don't need it often, but when you do, it's pretty important.)

GNU wrote:

What is the issue with ascii and ceres?

Amprolla, that is responsible for the Devuan repos, sometimes lags a bit behind the Debian repos. There are also more packages that need attention as systemd expands its reach.  Focus now is on Jessie. Feel free to join in the effort.

Login screen says Debian 8; I saw no shutdown/restart/suspend/etc options on it
Installer insists on adding bootloader (but respects redirection to partition), starts copying files without warning O_o
Good: Lxde, Customize Look & Feel; light & dark themes respected by Synaptic
I'm not familiar with simpleNetAid; only-connection "ens35" failed to (find device,) connect
¿Does this assume an internet connection will be present and active on boot?

Here's a test iso made from ascii that aitor just uploaded. This one will not boot into a live session, but if you could test the installer and report, it would be helpful. Thanks.

http://gnuinos.org/Gnuinos%20Ascii/

Hi pekman,

First of all, thanks for your interest taken in Gnuinos. I'm the author of this distribution, and now i'm working on some applications in gtk. One of them is a new GUI for the backend of simple-netaid. Here you are the code:

https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/simple … ree/master

and here you are a video, comparing the behaviour of the status icon with the status icon of the original GUI (written in freepascall):

http://gnuinos.org/simple-netaid-gtk_2.mpg

The active wifis will be shown at real time in the future, as you can see in the following video:

http://gnuinos.org/simple-netaid-gtk.mpg

But, at the time being, there will be a "refresh" button for that, because i have to fix a Segmentation fault.

Another project is a new menu for openbox (also in Gtk), dynamic and multilingual. Here you are a video:

http://gnuinos.org/openbox-menu1.mpg

This menu will have also a static header (still not included), containing items like "gmrun", "terminal", "web-browser", etc... and a static footer, containig as a final item the "Exit" option (at the same developed in gtk, i.e. a new openbox-logout).

I'll also work on a device-manager-gui, for umout/eject,  mount/open... external devices.

Shortly i'll start learning "amprolla", developed by Nextime. Gnuinos will use amprolla, vdev, simple-netaid and linux-libre (and OpenRC, maybe). So, the release of Gnuinos will take some time

Cheers,

  Aitor.

gorisis wrote:

Hello,

I would like to donate a amount of money on behalf of my company. Will I receive a statement or document I can put in my accountancy?

Many thanks for your work on Devuan.

Issa

Hi gorisis . . .

Thank you for supporting Devuan!  If you need a special receipt other than the one from transferring funds from your account, you should talk to jaromil at freedom at devuan dot org to see if that's possible.

Stop dreamin !

FOSSuser wrote:

…The manufacturer uses blobs …

… because they believe proprietary extremism works in their favor.
…
This may help.  Until our hardware is as open as our software can be, we'll always be relying on the integrity of manufacturers.