I mean, banks have had deals with credit card companies for awhile now.  Many debit cards, tied to checking accounts, can be processed as credit because of Visa partnerships.  And, as you rightly pointed out, most users never question this.

There is another disturbing worldview developing: the belief that companies have all your information, so there's no reason not to give up everything all the time for any situation.  This kind of cynicism lets people disregard any responsibility for their actions, and as a consequence, they end up giving everything -- and they're okay with that.

Because of user mindsets, it wouldn't be surprising if banks teamed up with Facebook.  On the other hand, I remain skeptical that Facebook in particular might become "the" platform for this kind of transaction, though.  Third-party information sharing is already pretty pervasive.  I challenge the notion that neither banks nor social media behemoths could get further information about users already.

Back to hiding in a cave for another month.

I know what you mean.  I went to compile the 5.0.6 kernel the other day and found the entirety of Louis C.K. stand-up videos encoded in base64 in a patch file.  Naturally I beat it repeatedly with a hammer and incinerated it in a large firepit.  It really makes you wonder what's on your system.  #totallydonewithlinuxnow #spectredoesntexist #alsoopenbsdhasitsownsetofbugssoiwouldrecommendkeepingupwiththeirmailinglists

I get that tensions are high.  Talking heads are going to talk. People who would never have used devuan are going to use it as a speaking point.  The devuan team has acknowledged the issue, and many people here who use it are going to keep using it.

That leaves a substantial potential member base.

And, as evidenced by the new members here, I'm pretty sure it's not the end of the world.

Or the project.

Give it time.

I'm down with it.

Original post updated.

Fixed.

I went ahead and omitted this.

Thanks!  And good to hear from you.

Note: I'll be uploading the new iso later.  I currently don't have internet at the new place.

Any progress?

Then fork it already.

^"stubborn sectarians" just sounds like a capcha.

nvidia drivers have always been a pain, foss or otherwise (especially the otherwise).  Given their aims, it isn't worth their time.  If you want it to be, then become the "unofficial" nvidia contributor (or fork openbsd) and be the change you complain about.

All I'm saying is, who controls the rc scripts, controls the universe.  Openbsd has the right idea there imo

Bruh, google it.  (Or startpage it.)

I saw that, too.  I found that sensible filtering practices can block (or at least mitigate) this kind of tracking:

https://www.ghacks.net/2017/11/24/how-t … -tracking/

I'll bet w3m doesn't have these issues

P.S. Something else I found interesting on the Princeton site, our friends at Google and Amazon don't have any of these listed.  I also appreciated the irony that a Javascript-based filter is used.  (If you disable scripts, it'll fallback to a simple list of all the notorious sites.)

It depends on how you've encountered him tbh.  You guys have history in a way that a lot of users just don't.  Doesn't make either of you horrible people imo.