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#826 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Testing testing Chimaera on laptop » 2021-07-06 11:05:16

Network setup in xfce is now handled by network-manager. If you want to use /etc/network/interfaces, you should disable or remove network-manager, or they will fight with each other.

I haven't tried the latest installers with a wireless connection yet, but with earlier ones, I had trouble if the wireless password had special characters in it. If I changed it to all lower case, the password worked in the installer. Special characters work correctly in the installed system.

#827 Re: Other Issues » Runit » 2021-06-30 18:29:08

I'm using the connman runit scripts from the antix collection, and connman seems to be working correctly. I have installed connman, connman-gtk, connman-ui and connman-vpn. The command connman-ui-gtk is in my startup apps. (xfce here)

#828 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] no_audio_in_downloads » 2021-06-27 12:08:31

I've seen a few cases where Video DownloadHelper in firefox shows me the video file in several formats, but only one of the files will play both video and audio.

#829 Re: Packaging for Devuan » quilt diff fails » 2021-06-27 11:56:26

Thanks, guys. I added the .png files to include-binaries instead of putting them in the patch.  Just the .xpm is in the patch. Looks like it all works and builds now.

#830 Packaging for Devuan » quilt diff fails » 2021-06-25 13:49:43

fsmithred
Replies: 3

I'm trying to make a quilt patch to correct (replace) a couple of files in clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme, following this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt
I've used that guide successfully on the deepsea theme, but this patch is failing. Here's my command history with relevant output:

### Clone the repo and checkout the working branch
git clone git@git.devuan.org:devuan/clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme.git
cd clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme/
git checkout suites/unstable

### apply existing patches (there's one active in the series file)
$ quilt push -a

Applying patch color-change
patching file gtk-2.0/gtkrc

Now at patch color-change

### Create new patch
$ quilt new top-left-active-fix

Patch top-left-active-fix is now on top

### Start making the changes 
$ quilt add xfwm4/top-left-active.xpm 
File xfwm4/top-left-active.xpm added to patch top-left-active-fix

$ cp ../top-left-active.xpm xfwm4/
$ quilt refresh
Refreshed patch top-left-active-fix

$ quilt add xfwm4/top-left-active.png 
File xfwm4/top-left-active.png added to patch top-left-active-fix

$ cp ../top-left-active.png xfwm4/
$ quilt refresh
Diff failed on file 'xfwm4/top-left-active.png', aborting

$ quilt add xfwm4/png/top-left-active.png 
File xfwm4/png/top-left-active.png added to patch top-left-active-fix

$ cp ../top-left-active.png xfwm4/png/
$ quilt refresh
Diff failed on file 'xfwm4/png/top-left-active.png', aborting

### Get rid of the failed patch and remove all the applied patches.
quilt delete top-left-active-fix
quilt pop -a

The .xpm file is a text file, and that works. The .png is a binary file, and I don't know if there's a different way to handle that. Other than that, I have no ideas about what's wrong. Suggestions are welcome.

Here's a link to the unstable branch, for reference: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/clearlook … s/unstable

#831 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release » 2021-06-23 14:45:34

sudo apt update && sudo apt install -f && sudo apt upgrade

Today that got me kernel 4.19.0-17 + an odd message about a potential 28 further upgrades. Re-running the commands now produces zero result. I'm still on beowulf-3.

If those commands completed without error, then it's correct that there are no more upgrades, because you already got them, and your beowulf is fully updated and current. You can check to see what got upgraded or installed by looking in /var/log/apt/history.log.

#832 Re: Off-topic » Today I Learned » 2021-06-21 15:06:05

@andyprough:

How do you run linux on a computer with only 64k RAM???

#833 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] man display nothing with "line ?/?" after recent updates » 2021-06-21 14:36:57

In my fully updated beowulf without apparmor, man is working fine.

I notice you're using an older kernel. It's probably not related to the problem, but current kernel package in beowulf is 4.19.0-17.

#834 Re: Other Issues » Security updates tracking "chimaera" (testing) » 2021-06-19 11:27:20

There's no security repo for the Testing branch. As long as Chimaera is in testing, any security updates will filter down from Ceres, our unstable branch. Unstable means the versions can change quickly.

It takes a week for a version to move from Unstable to Testing. If you want to selectively get updates sooner than that, you can add a line for ceres to your sources.list and pin ceres to a lower priority, so that you can pick and choose what to take.

I'm not sure what will happen when Debian Bullseye goes stable. We might start tracking the security updates at that time.

#835 Re: Other Issues » At the shut down menu screen I choose shut down, but it reboots. » 2021-06-17 15:29:01

Re-check your power manager settings as Camtaf suggested.

Look in /var/log/apt/history.log to see what packages you removed. (Let us see, too.)

FWIW, I tried your settings and theme choices, and it had no effect on shutdown. I'm guessing you removed something that you need.

#836 Re: Installation » Reasons to stay with Devuan » 2021-06-11 14:31:37

What do "fixed" and "not affected" mean? I expect "not affected" to mean "doesn't need to be fixed" rather than "we fixed it".

#837 Re: Other Issues » relying on aptitude to keep an OS up to date with security patches » 2021-06-10 13:18:23

Here's a little more explanation about what Camtaf posted -

If you install one of the kernel metapackages, you will always get the latest kernel on upgrade. Those packages are named like linux-image-amd64 or other linux-image-<arch>. Metapackages don't do anything themselves except automatically pull in other packages.

Without the metapackage, you need to manually install newer kernels when they come along. The actual kernel packages have the version in the package name, like linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64 for instance.

#838 Re: Other Issues » relying on aptitude to keep an OS up to date with security patches » 2021-06-09 13:04:19

i don't know what others do, but 'aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade' will work properly in debian/devuan. You do need to have a line for the security repo in sources.list, but that's usually there by default.

I'm pretty sure that works in ubuntu, too. I'm not sure about mint. They break up their releases differently from the others.

#839 Re: Installation » runit scripts » 2021-05-25 12:30:39

I don't know the answers to most of your questions, but there's a link to additional runscripts in this post:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27300#p27300

I think these are the two main discussions of runit on our forum:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3716
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3628

#840 Re: Off-topic » freenode irc » 2021-05-21 15:04:11

Yeah, we made it official at yesterday's meeting. Nice to see that you showed up, but you left too soon. IRC is asynchronous. You gotta hang around, even if you don't sit there watching the irc screen.

#841 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Security update delays (again) » 2021-05-16 16:21:51

Thanks for the alert. It's been brought up to date.

#842 Re: Installation » Grub defect » 2021-05-08 17:30:05

sda1 should be the efi partition, which appears to be correctly mounted at /boot/efi. Run blkid to prove to yourself that it holds a fat32 (vfat) filesystem.

I'm having trouble keeping up with the changes in grub's behavior over the last year or so, but I think you probably just need to remove grub-efi-amd64-signed. The unsigned package will remain. Run grub-install and update-grub afterward. This solution assumes you don't use secure boot.

If that doesn't work, ask again or poke around the forum for other solutions. (Hint: search for "set prefix")

#843 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Security update delays (again) » 2021-05-08 14:29:26

Using Refracta won't matter because it only has devuan repos. I was told a full merge is scheduled for Sunday, but I really have no idea what the schedule is or why. It seemed like we had this problem fixed with the last set of patches to amprolla. Guess not.

#844 Re: Installation » networking » 2021-05-04 19:48:58

I'm another one who saw this on the chimaera isos. I don't know if it's in any of the beowulf isos. My solution was to change the wireless password to one that contained only lower-case characters, and it worked. Disabling the password worked, too.

It only seems to be a problem with the installer. The installed system works fine with the original password that contains other characters.

All the installer isos have non-free firmware that gets installed if your hardware needs it unless to choose expert install and tell it you don't want non-free. In the live-isos, most of the wireless firmware packages are already installed.

#845 Re: Devuan Derivatives » SDK or (Debian) Live-build » 2021-05-02 21:46:42

I think Star and Crows are made with live-build. There's no devuanized live-build package right now, so you might want to talk to those devs for hints.

Gnuinos uses a modified live-sdk and includes the debian-installer. Some of the others use refractasnapshot (and refractainstaller) and some I don't know about.

The official devuan-live isos are made with an older version of live-sdk. I need to troubleshoot my builds on the current version when I get some time.

#846 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Firewall on laptop with Chimaera » 2021-05-02 21:41:40

arno-iptables-firewall is nice and simple. You can configure it with debconf, and it will ask a few questions about which interface(s) to use and which ports to open, etc. There's a way to do fancier stuff by editing configs, but I've never done anything with that.

#847 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Installing amd64 devuan beowulf 3.1 on an old imac ... » 2021-05-02 21:32:50

You should be able to boot the amd64 desktop-live iso on an old imac. The 32-bit bootloader is included for that specific purpose.

The live isos use refractainstaller. Here's a pictorial guide if you are not familiar with it: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … f/live-gui

#848 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-23 12:16:24

Altoid wrote:

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

... there's a way to restore the old behavior.

ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes

in /etc/default/su

But you still have to use su -, you just don't get sent to /root.
Right?

Best,

A.

After making the edit:
Use su -if you want to cd to /root.
Use su if you want to stay in the current directory or if you want to run a graphical app as root on the user's desktop. (e.g. I frequently start gparted from terminal because I'm already in a terminal and it's easier than going up to the menu.)

@Dutch_Master: check to see if your cpu or motherboard is known to freeze with linux. I have one box that needs an extra boot option to prevent lockups.

#849 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Multiboot USB and data storage » 2021-04-22 11:05:13

Sorry I didn't see this sooner. Installer isos won't work with refracta2usb. It's mainly for live-isos.

The mini.iso will work. I can't recall if you need to edit the boot menu or if it gets the paths correct automatically.
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dis … s/netboot/
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dis … s/netboot/

Names might be different from what refracta2usb expects. 'vmlinuz' might be 'linux' and 'initrd.img' is probably 'initrd.gz'.

#850 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-20 15:03:02

I hate using 'su -'. Most of the time when I become root, I'm already in the directory where I want to do stuff, and I want to stay there. I don't want to change to /root. And sometimes I want to run a graphical app as root from the user's desktop. That got lost in the change, too. Fortunately, there's a way to restore the old behavior.

ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes

in /etc/default/su

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