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#1 Today 08:45:36

devrate
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Registered: 2019-09-14
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Removing/purging Network Manager

What are the inconveniences if I remove/purge Network Manager?

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#2 Today 09:55:41

ralph.ronnquist
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From: Battery Point, Tasmania, AUS
Registered: 2016-11-30
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Re: Removing/purging Network Manager

I have no idea.
I don't use it;
I just use plain ifupdown configurations, plus wpagui on some hosts.
I think of that as easy and straight-forward.
In particular, it's well documented.

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#3 Today 10:32:10

Altoid
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Registered: 2017-05-07
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Re: Removing/purging Network Manager

Hello:

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

... use plain ifupdown configurations ...
... easy and straight-forward.
.. well documented.

+1
For me it was a huge step forward.

Best,

A.

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#4 Today 11:06:44

steve_v
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Registered: 2018-01-11
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Re: Removing/purging Network Manager

What are the inconveniences if I remove/purge Network Manager?

Uhh, needing to configure networking yourself? Fairly obvious, no?
Aside from that, likely a lack of GUI network configuration / tray widgets / whatever... Unless you install something else that provides those, of which there are several. None of them have the extensive feature set creep networkmanager does though.

NM is useful for systems that use a variety of transient networks, e.g. wifi, cell modem, bridges, tunnels, vpns etc. where the user wants a unified GUI that can configure and switch between those on-the-fly. Essentially, It's designed for coffee-shop-warriors with laptops.

NM is downright aggravating if manual network configuration is common, or a single, fixed, reliable connection is required at boot. e.g. the system has NFS mounts or the user regularly does 'ip whatever' or 'ifconfig whatever' to connect with static addresses or manual routing.

NM is completely pointless for servers or workstations that have fixed wired networking or rarely change connections.

Vague question -> vague answers.

Last edited by steve_v (Today 11:26:00)


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#5 Today 17:47:13

devrate
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Registered: 2019-09-14
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Re: Removing/purging Network Manager

Here is the context:

I have a desktop machine with wired connection to a router.  I am setting up a wifi network with another router not connected to the internet. 

When I use the Network Manager via the status tray icon to connect to the wifi network, it changes resolv.conf to point to the non-internet wifi router, and adds a default route pointing to this router.   So each time I connect to the non-internet wifi, I have to fix resolv.conf and route table manually.

So I am looking for an alternative(s) to Network Manager to manage wifi connection.   Can you all help me out with suggestions/recommendations?

Thanks.

Last edited by devrate (Today 17:49:59)

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#6 Today 18:43:49

fsmithred
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Registered: 2016-11-25
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Re: Removing/purging Network Manager

Set up both wired and wireless in /etc/network/interfaces.

Network Configuration Guide
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … figuration

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#7 Today 18:54:10

rolfie
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Registered: 2017-11-25
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Re: Removing/purging Network Manager

You either define everything in /etc/network/interfaces or you exclusively use NM for both. As you have seen a mix won't work.

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