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Thanks! Sorry (TL;DR) I missed that - i3lock-color and i3lock-fancy look nice at UnixPorn and DeviantArt - maybe if the screen didn't stay dark when returned from suspend, and show a lock? Just a thought. How can I configure it? (what about a switch-user option?)
When I'm in dark-shift mode, I prefer a "dark" theme, and have found Adwaita-Dark shows buttons etc best; other (nicer-looking) themes tend to hide controls at some point(s). Complex stuff.
connman (and connman-ui) works well (for my setup), but I'm not eager to try to change from wicd mid-stream.
Usually alsa is set up so I at least get sound, and I recently learned to use S/PDIF in vlc (not as easy with old version of mpv lacking docs), but I've never found the magic mystical incantation for getting it to use a different sound circuit (say, digital vs. analog) if it's initially too-minimal. No Full-Manual (clear, complete documentation), no drop-down list UI.
(Yes, I did notice a dvd played out-of-the-box - much better (In-My-Opinion) thanks! And handbrake!)
…If I install VLC … with Synaptic, it would always work perfectly. …
I'll have to try a re-install; thanks!
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I remember you (miyo) advising some of us to turn recommended pkgs off as dependencies, so I'd hate to return the advise. But is it possible synaptic is including something that makes it work better? I am lost recently in where does synaptic draw its dependency structure and how does it differ from apt and apt-get. Also I have read that between jessie and stretch there was a decisive move to make apt a primary tool and apt-get is to be cautiously used by educated users on their differences. I am not sure where there is documentation that describes in which way does devuan differ from debian in this respect, if it is different.
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greenjeans wrote:From the releases notes which are also posted as the readme file on SF:
Thanks! Sorry (TL;DR) I missed that - i3lock-color and i3lock-fancy look nice at UnixPorn and DeviantArt - maybe if the screen didn't stay dark when returned from suspend, and show a lock? Just a thought. How can I configure it? (what about a switch-user option?)
As simple as it is, it does have some configuration available, the command currently used to lock is " i3lock -c 000000", this tells i3lock to lock the screen and fill it with a solid color while locking is activated, it uses regular color hex code for that, '000000' is obviously black but you can use any color. You can also use a picture for the background instead, change that command to " i3lock -i /path/to/your/image.png" .
The man page for i3lock gives all the options, there's quite a few.
I thought quite a bit about the screenlocker before I settled on i3lock, tried most ways to do it, but the more I used it the more I got hooked on the simplicity and the speed, and no service or daemon or applet running to use it.
But I also kinda figured some folks wouldn't read the instructions and would flip out the first time they tried to use it, lol, so thus my hesitation and seems it was well-founded, but try it for a while, I promise it'll grow on you, it's a very openboxish way to do things IMO.
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I remember you (miyo) advising some of us to turn recommended pkgs off as dependencies, so I'd hate to return the advise. But is it possible synaptic is including something that makes it work better? I am lost recently in where does synaptic draw its dependency structure and how does it differ from apt and apt-get. Also I have read that between jessie and stretch there was a decisive move to make apt a primary tool and apt-get is to be cautiously used by educated users on their differences. I am not sure where there is documentation that describes in which way does devuan differ from debian in this respect, if it is different.
Synaptic has always done a great job for me, and I use it primarily because it's what I expect the end-user will use, non-computer savvy folks like their gui's and so do I really.
On packages from outside the repo, I always use dpkg, I literally never use apt and have always run that way.
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MiyoLinux wrote:…If I install VLC … with Synaptic, it would always work perfectly. …
I'll have to try a re-install; thanks!
From what I remember (it's been quite some time, and my memory could be wrong), reinstalling VLC with Synaptic didn't help if I had already installed it through the terminal. I think I tried removing VLC...
apt-get remove vlc
...then installing it again with Synaptic...and that didn't help. However, I can't remember if I ever tried...
apt-get remove --purge vlc*
...followed by...
apt-get autoremove
That "might" work, and then try reinstalling through Synaptic...but I'm not sure. I just remember finally discovering that if I installed it with Synaptic instead of the terminal, it worked perfectly.
I remember you (miyo) advising some of us to turn recommended pkgs off as dependencies, so I'd hate to return the advise. But is it possible synaptic is including something that makes it work better? I am lost recently in where does synaptic draw its dependency structure and how does it differ from apt and apt-get. Also I have read that between jessie and stretch there was a decisive move to make apt a primary tool and apt-get is to be cautiously used by educated users on their differences. I am not sure where there is documentation that describes in which way does devuan differ from debian in this respect, if it is different.
Hmmm...I don't know fungus. I have no idea what the difference could be.
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FYI: VLC is installed already in the maximal versions. ;-)
If installing it on a minimal, Synaptic is the recommended way as it is for all packages in Vuu-do.
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according to itsfoss.com
Bottom line: apt=most common used command options from apt-get and apt-cache.
it can also modify apt.conf
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easy 'list'
olzeke51@devuan:~/DOSbox/C$ apt list slim
Listing... Done
slim/stable,now 1.3.6-5+devuan4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
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New Mate maximal up today: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … 4-maximal/
Almost done with the Mate mini, had to update today and might finish tonight or tomorrow, probably be up Monday or so.
And that will be all the 1.0.2 versions up.
Already working on 1.0.3, some nice config changes already happening, working on perfecting icon set too. Making some changes to conky, changing the HD listing to "used/total" config to match RAM and added a line for Swap too. I'm not into big giant conky displays, trying to keep this one pretty small and only really useful info, so with that consideration I added a couple more things, since the xfce power manager doesn't offer a tray status icon, and Mate's is completely broken and doesn't work right anyway, I put a simple battery status line in conky that displays the battery's state (charging, discharging, charged) and it's percentage of charge remaining. Next to that a line that simply lets you know whether the AC adapter is off or online.
Anybody have an opinion on the best config tool for Alsa? Somewhat-reticent is right, needs to be some more detailed config of sound in the Openbox Vuu-do's. Quite a few choices when you search on alsa in synaptic. The mixer is already onboard and clicking the volume icon will offer it, alsamixer-gui in the repo is just a gui version of the mixer which normally opens in terminal if I recall correctly, so that won't help much.
Also, wondering if I should provide a better way to choose video resolution in Openbox? I never have to mess with it usually, if I do I use xrandr in terminal, but maybe I should include arandr? Again though it seems like a kinda half-baked gui that looks and does the same thing as xrandr does in terminal....
And lastly, I have added some time configuration in the Openbox versions, zone-change-via-right-click on the clock and NTP is onboard maximals and should correct just fine. But I can't seem to find a GUI frontend to change time manually like you can in the Mate versions, anybody know of one that works in Openbox?
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Wow is this stuff a lot of work, spent many hours this weekend. But starting to get excited about next version, I have done a ton of stuff and it's all working great so far, exposed some more functionality, fixed tons of little stuff, much work on menu, icons, .desktop files etc.
Kinda had forgotten I set obsession.conf to use i3lock, after Somewhat_Reticent mentioned it I tried suspend with locking activated as it currently is on new iso's, and it is a little weird like that, so have now disabled it as default, to enable just edit ~/.config/obsession.conf, it's just one line, un-comment it and it will enable screenlocking on resume from both suspend and hibernate, I put some notes in that file and a lot of others too, so as to help folks trying to re-configure their system. I am going to work on an image background for the locked screen later today, that gives some basic info to make this process nicer.
Added a gstreamer alsa plugin that for some reason nothing seemed to actually depend on, but it might expose some extra functionality, in that vein I also added the extra alsa plugins package too, and an equalizer for alsa. I added menu links to EQ and Mixer and volumeicon right-click offers the mixer as well, had to add some geometry settings to the commands to open the two programs, the default lxterminal opening window size was not quite wide enough to fit all the columns and so would have a small sidescroll, a small thing, but it's the details that count yes?
Added some options for screenshots, Scrot doesn't have a pretty GUI ike mate-screenshot does, but it will still do everything, just have to make right commands, so I added a sub-menu with 3 options, Desktop (entire), Desktop-5 second delay, and Select area w/mouse.
Refracta tools gets it's own sub-menu with all 3 fabulous programs there, it's now under 'Advanced' section because they definitely belong there if anything does, I also NoDisplayed the .desktop files for Refracta to avoid menu redundancies, I modded a LOT of .desktop files for this reason and it really cleaned up the menu, yes you'll get some back if you update and don't retain or re-mod the files, but at least you start off with a nice clean install, and that alone made it worth doing for me.
Obmenu generator is pretty heavily modded now, i'll share the code if anyone wants to play with the new stuff, but it won't all work right if you don't have the current Oxy2-ZEN icon set on my Vuu-do build partition amongst other things.
@Miyolinux and users: Hey FYI and maybe you already figured this trick out, but if your icons in the menu seem a little low-res and fuzzy, go into the config.pl file and find the setting for icon size, change that to 48 (default I think is 24), this will force obmenu-generator to use the larger size and shrink it to fit the menu size (which I think is also 24), giving you MUCH sharper icons, the difference was pretty dramatic on mine.
New conky settings rock, the battery and AC adapter notifications are already saving me headaches, lol. Current ConkyRC file down below if you want to try it, not sure this will be the final for new iso, but it's very close and I like it a lot.
Fixed system tray which was using different color for tooltips than the rest of the panel was, it's little stuff like this, just tons of 'em when you start to really look at the system.
Some extra artwork, maybe an extra desktop background, certainly some new icons, screenlock image, etc. So much else, can't remember all right now, here's a screenie though (stupid internets makes pic look fuzzy, it's actually sharper and clearer than ever on the machine):
ConkyRC:
alignment top_left
background no
#border_margin 5
border_width 5
default_color 999999
double_buffer yes
draw_borders no
draw_outline no
draw_shades no
gap_x 10
gap_y 10
maximum_width 1000
minimum_size 800
no_buffers yes
override_utf8_locale yes
own_window yes
own_window_title conky
own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager
own_window_transparent yes
own_window_type normal ## normal /override /desktop
text_buffer_size 8000
total_run_times 0
update_interval 1
uppercase no
use_xft yes
xftalpha 1
xftfont Freesans:pixelsize=9
TEXT
${voffset -5}${font BankGothic Md BT:pixelsize=30}${time %A %B %d, %Y %l:%M %P}${font}
${voffset +2}${font BankGothic Md BT:pixelsize=16}RAM: ${mem /} / ${memmax /} HD: ${fs_used /} / ${fs_size /} SWAP: ${swapperc /} / ${swapmax /}
# If you are running Vuu-do on a desktop instead of a laptop, comment out the next line directly below this one to remove battery/charge info
${voffset -8}battery: ${battery BAT0 /} ac adapter: ${acpiacadapter /}
${voffset -7}${font BankGothic Md BT:pixelsize=12}${alignc}
-----------------------------------------------------------
alt + f = file manager
alt + t = terminal
alt + l = lock screen
alt + s = suspend
alt + h = hibernate
alt + r = reboot
alt + p = power-off/shutdown
alt + c = conky on/off switch
prt sc = take screenshot
-----------------------------------------------------------
${if_running exaile}${font BankGothic Md BT:pixelsize=16}now playing : ${execi 10 exaile --get-title} – ${execi 10 exaile --get-artist}$endif
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Bloody hell, I just checked my spam folder in gmail, first time in quite a while, and there was a note from FOSSuser recommending adding a battery indicator in the conky display from back in early August. Google mail is such crap, I specifically whitelisted everything Devuan a while back, so didn't think to look into spam folder. Could have implemented that battery idea over a month ago....{sigh}...
Better late than never though, thanks FOSSuser, awesome idea and I agree 100%!
Please keep suggestions coming guys when you have time, this helps a LOT.
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In another distro, where newer versions of packages appear faster, it appears that conky is having problems without systemd. It requires a libsystemd.0 which the non-systemd people didn't catch on time to include a dummy libsystemd patch. I suspect this may float downstream at some point and reach devuan. Also despite of how nice the obmenu-generator seems it keeps crashing on me and gives me all kinds of strange messages about desktop.free.crap missing etc. So I gave up fighting and returned to plain obmenu which works the same with no icons, and less ram
Without an autostarting panel and with obmenu-generator crashing and without a hot-key set-up for terminal (like a vuudo chile) you can get stuck in a pretty background screen unable to do anything. So if you don't have something like good'ol LXDE how do you get to console to edit openbox/autostart and add a panel? Recovery mode? Pain in the freaking 5th wheel.
I think a hot key terminal is a life savyor.
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In another distro, where newer versions of packages appear faster, it appears that conky is having problems without systemd. It requires a libsystemd.0 which the non-systemd people didn't catch on time to include a dummy libsystemd patch. I suspect this may float downstream at some point and reach devuan. Also despite of how nice the obmenu-generator seems it keeps crashing on me and gives me all kinds of strange messages about desktop.free.crap missing etc. So I gave up fighting and returned to plain obmenu which works the same with no icons, and less ram
Without an autostarting panel and with obmenu-generator crashing and without a hot-key set-up for terminal (like a vuudo chile) you can get stuck in a pretty background screen unable to do anything. So if you don't have something like good'ol LXDE how do you get to console to edit openbox/autostart and add a panel? Recovery mode? Pain in the freaking 5th wheel.
I think a hot key terminal is a life savyor.
From the Release notes of the new version i'm working on now:
Greenjeans closing note: I'm pretty sure if you try to update Vuu-do (jessie) to ascii or ceres that it will all go to hell, please record your epic cussing fits on video for my later enjoyment, i'm especially gratified and entertained when people throw stuff.
I'll make a Vuu-do ascii when there's a stable ascii, but i'm not in a hurry, it's a ton of work for the VUA's and i'm just glad they do it.
And in any case, this branch is supported for a couple of years or so, and the 3.16 kernel is LTS too, and believe me there is _plenty_ of work that can be done to make the stable branch even better, it's a field day for creativity because it's pretty dang hard to screw up Devuan stable too badly with your hacking, ask me how I know.
peace y'all,
~GJ
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Almost forgot to post this, I decided that for future Vuu-do releases, that it will follow the Devuan releases insofar as being alphabetical, the current 1.*.* series of Vuu-do is just jessie like Devuan, starting with ascii (when ready) it will be alphabetical order.
The animal naming scheme for Ubuntu is one of the few things I like about it.
So the ascii version of Vuu-do will be................................................................................
................ARMADILLO!
lolololol! Got a little cartoon vision in my head, Golinux chasing a fat lil Vuu-do armadillo around the yard with a stick. hahahaha!
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New version 1.0.3 Vuu-do Openbox-64-maximal up : https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … 4-maximal/
Best Vuu-do yet! Dang, forgot to take new screenshots.
So much is new and different in this edition it would take way too long to detail, and much of it you might not notice, but you'd notice if it hadn't been done, if that makes any sense.
Tons of work on the menu and the default icon set, expanded menu with more options, configuration options and programs to do it added. Conky display re-worked and much more informative and useful. Some utilities and programs more tightly integrated into desktop for a smoother quicker experience. Background and additional options added to screenlocker. Added lxrandr for a lightweight frontend for xrandr. Fixed little bugs and inconsistencies too numerous to mention. Fully updated and current as of earlier this week.
Enjoy and let me know what I missed, always more stuff to do and fix.
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I forgot to add to my vuu-do wishlist a menu item to edit the hot-key list
If you have any suggestion, it took me for ever to find where once and now I want to edit it again and don't know where it is.
I should have made a note but now I would be looking for the note. No, I have a vuu-do forlder, just saved the script in it.
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I forgot to add to my vuu-do wishlist a menu item to edit the hot-key list
If you have any suggestion, it took me for ever to find where once and now I want to edit it again and don't know where it is.
I should have made a note but now I would be looking for the note. No, I have a vuu-do forlder, just saved the script in it.
It's always been there in the Configuration menu , Advanced >> Openbox >> Edit Openbox RC, just click that, it will open in the text-editor, scroll down a ways and you'll see the entries.
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New Openbox-64-minimal uploaded today: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … 4-minimal/
I probably should have tested it a bit more, but it seems very nice, lol!
Added a tiny bit to it, lxrandr, the same additional alsa packages I added to the maximal, and I threw in bluetooth firmware because the package is pretty small and I really want stuff to work for folks out-of-the-box if at all possible.
Plus all the new changes I made to the maximal as far as menu, conky, icons etc.
Got a reply from the Osmo dev on my question, he was trying to clarify what I wanted and so I did, hope that feature I requested is feasible! Osmo isn't in the mini, and for right now in the maximal I have it set to startup minimized to tray when you left-click the clock (it's actually a switch like I do with conky, a second left-click shuts it down).
The way I want it to run is autostarted but minimized to invisibility, then i'll write a little minimize/maximize switch and attach it to the clock's left-click, so it works just like gsimplecal does in the mini.
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New 64 bit Openbox iso's up today, minimal and maximal : https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do/files/Openbox/
This fixes a couple of bugs I made happen, lol, had inadvertently left the backports repo uncomnmented in sources.list on the maximal version.
Also had a version of Yad with the GTK3-sickness, Fsmithred came to my rescue (again) with a custom upgraded version that plays nice with GTK2.
Updated Palemoon to latest version.
And some minor tweaks that shave a few mb off the maximal iso and some other minor fixes.
Happy hacking!
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Many thanks for the update.
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Hi will there be further releases?
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Hi will there be further releases?
Oh yeah, working on the next one now.
But I still need to update the 32 bit Openbox iso as that's behind. I won't be updating the Mate versions any time soon, probably wait and revisit that when there's an ascii beta, but I think i'm pretty much done with Mate, will be focusing on making Openbox even better.
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Cool Greenjeans,
I use your LXDE image - lovely to use.
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Got the Rotate Image extension for pcmanfm working along with the Resize Image, burned a 2nd run last night and looks pretty good, wrapping up stuff by tomorrow hopefully and uploading Vuu-do 1.0.4 isos, there's a ton of work into this version already, it's niiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
"rot" makes a copy of the target image, rotates it the specified amount, and prepends the resulting copy with "rotated". Always better to make a copy when working with images like this, modding an image in place destroys the original.
For anyone interested here's the prototype (not fully tested yet) of the rot script:
#!/bin/sh
rotbox=$(yad --form --title="Rotate Image" --field="Rotate:":CB --width=300 --text="Select rotation (clockwise, in degrees)" '90!180!270')
rot=$(echo $rotbox | awk 'BEGIN {FS="|" } { print $1 }')
convert $1 -strip -rotate "$rot" -set filename:copy 'rotated-%f' '%[filename:copy]'
And the .desktop that goes with it, haven't tested with a .bmp yet, but .png and .jpg work fine:
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Action
Name=Rotate Image
Tooltip=Rotate image
Icon=edit-redo
Profiles=rot;
[X-Action-Profile rot]
Exec=sh -c 'cd %d && rot %f'
MimeTypes=image/bmp;image/jpeg;image/png;
The thread I made in DIY has the code for the resizer.
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New Vuu-do Openbox 64 bit iso's uploaded just now : https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do/files/Openbox/
Added ffmpegthumbnailer for video thumbnails.
Replaced Osmo with gsimplecal, I like Osmo but just couldn't integrate it like I wanted to do and it's slow to start up. I will be dumping gsimplecal probably next version and just make one from yad as these things are all just a GtkCalendar anyway.
Added multiple extensions to pcmanfm, for images: Set As Wallpaper, Rotate Image, Resize Image. Also added a right click search option and I fixed the existing extensions (a couple needed fine-tuning for file types).
Used an acpi event to make system suspend when laptop lid closes, this is better than nothing, but will be looking into fixing xfce power manager if I can on next run so it's close/lid functions will actually work. Still couldn't get it to lock screen too, but if you suspend using the desktop shortcut (alt+s) you can set it to lock upon resume from suspend and hibernate that way, just edit obsession.conf, instructions are in release notes and in that file.
Many small fixes, added shortcut to open menu with keyboard (alt+m), useful if your desktop is clogged up with open windows as it opens on top of all. Changed conky a bit, did some menu work, shaved a little more cruft and yet still added more functionality. A nice tidy 594 mb iso, unpacks to 1.9 gigs installed, so very comfortably within the 2 gig goal.
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When I started downloading there were 0 downloads, when I finished there were 4.
I will try it out tomorrow, time is up for today....
It is now guitar playing time ...
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