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#76 2019-04-05 22:02:58

Lysander
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Can we please stop this before it starts and not pollute a third forum with the same bullshit that infected FDN and DUF?

If one moves house with a partner one argues with, arguments will still happen in the new residence. Changes will only come about if people make a concerted effort to improve. It's quite obvious that the old FDN userbase is increasingly coming over here, which is great, but please let's leave the old issues behind.

It would be a great shame if the Devuan forums went the same way as the other two. Please can we not let this place suffer the same fate.

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#77 2019-04-05 22:09:40

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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Lysander wrote:

Can we please stop this before it starts and not pollute a third forum with the same bullshit that infected FDN and DUF?...It would be a great shame if the Devuan forums went the same way as the other two. Please can we not let this place suffer the same fate.


Well I cannot seem to find a handshake, pinky promise emoji or beer toast so these will have to do:
handshake_1f91d.png
clinking-beer-mugs_1f37b.png

Ref for emojis:
https://emojipedia.org/handshake/
https://emojipedia.org/clinking-beer-mugs/

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#78 2019-04-06 03:12:13

Ron
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Because they were laughing at the clueless idiots, perhaps?

Real good marketing ploy . . . exposing your own user base as supposed idiots. That makes the "jokers" the idiots.

Lysander wrote:
Can we please stop this before it starts and not pollute a third forum with the same bullshit that infected FDN and DUF?

Okay, I'm done. Now tell that to Head_on_a_Stick who keeps insulting people.

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#79 2019-04-06 05:36:09

ToxicExMachina
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Ron wrote:

Making your own website looked hacked, that's the real stupidity.

Why would genuine hackers change the home page if they wanted to plant malware? Think about it...

It seems you don't know who genuine hackers are.

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#80 2019-04-06 11:17:31

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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

I remember being on windows and getting pretty badly pwned years ago, some websites visited would completely takeover your windows, that was not cool. Especially when trying to see nudes of Elisabeth Hurley or Uma Thurman lmao!! Damn green hat hackers...

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#81 2019-04-06 11:21:04

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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Also some here need to be reminded what a hacker is and what a cracker is, and no a cracker is not that white skinned person in a black skinned neighborhood!

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#82 2019-04-06 12:07:31

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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

I still want a pickle...

...at this point, I'd settle for a gherkin. tongue

I feel that I must say this though...whoever created the blasphemy known as sweet pickles should be ashamed of themselves...


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#83 2019-04-06 12:33:14

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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

ToxicExMachina wrote:

It seems you don't know who genuine hackers are.

Panopticon wrote:

and no a cracker is not that white skinned person in a black skinned neighborhood!

Yes, I'm aware that I used the terminology incorrectly but only because to me a "cracker" is exactly what Panopticon's quote describes so I just used the lazy, inaccurate term.

@Ron: grow a thicker skin, perhaps? I was observing rather than insulting. But whatever.

And I don't think the Devuan developers are in this for the money so "marketing" isn't really relevant here.


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#84 2019-04-06 12:47:26

Panopticon
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
ToxicExMachina wrote:

It seems you don't know who genuine hackers are.

Panopticon wrote:

and no a cracker is not that white skinned person in a black skinned neighborhood!

Yes, I'm aware that I used the terminology incorrectly but only because to me a "cracker" is exactly what Panopticon's quote describes so I just used the lazy, inaccurate term.

@Ron: grow a thicker skin, perhaps? I was observing rather than insulting. But whatever.

And I don't think the Devuan developers are in this for the money so "marketing" isn't really relevant here.

Dont put words in my mouth, i never described anything.

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#85 2019-04-06 12:53:23

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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

I just meant that for me "cracker" is a racist term for Caucasian people and that's why I used the inaccurate "hacker" term instead.

EDIT: reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_( … tive_usage

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2019-04-06 12:54:38)


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#86 2019-04-06 12:56:13

Panopticon
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I just meant that for me "cracker" is a racist term for Caucasian people and that's why I used the inaccurate "hacker" term instead.

EDIT: reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_( … tive_usage

Bullshit.

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#87 2019-04-06 13:21:10

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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

What's bullshit?

"Cracker" is used as a derogatory term for Caucasians, as my Wikipedia link shows and also as you yourself commented.


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#88 2019-04-06 13:25:59

Panopticon
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Its a made up pejorative word, so its bullshit and you know it. Software/Hardware cracker or as the wiki so softly puts it, security hacker!

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#89 2019-04-06 13:36:26

Head_on_a_Stick
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Panopticon wrote:

Its a made up pejorative word

Erm, aren't all words made up?

Anyway, think whatever you want, I really couldn't give a crap smile


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#90 2019-04-06 13:37:39

Panopticon
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Panopticon wrote:

Its a made up pejorative word

Erm, aren't all words made up?

Anyway, think whatever you want, I really couldn't give a crap smile

As i said its bullshit, only for stupid people like you.

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#91 2019-04-06 15:02:13

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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

I was called "g-dog" once...still don't know what that means. LOL! tongue


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#92 2019-04-06 15:09:36

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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Sticks and stones Miyo. I don't generally go on the offensive but i believe Head On A Stick is somewhat of a toxic entity all things considered when viewing his/her behavior on other forums.

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#93 2019-04-06 15:21:38

Panopticon
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
ChuangTzu wrote:

Why would anyone want to pretend their website was hacked, and then go on for several hours via social media, irc and the forum, pretending and reinforcing that it was hacked?

Because they were laughing at the clueless idiots, perhaps?

Case in point, many others on that "other" forum.

I remember Zuckerburg having this frame mind??

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#94 2019-04-06 16:27:05

Altoid
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Hello:

dxrobertson wrote:

... lost our understanding of April fools jokes?

No ...
Providing April's Fool pranks are something you are sufficiently acquainted with to understand what they are about.
If not, just like you (apparently sufficiently acquainted), people who are not (a great many others) will also be fooled.
And therefore rightly alarmed.

Enough to send an Admin a mail, like I did.

dxrobertson wrote:

... think it was pretty funny - gopher!

I would ask you to consider that sufficiently acquainted actually entails knowing where necessary limits lay.
ie: what can be considered an April's Fool joke and what ends up being a stupid prank reflecting in the worse possible manner on its author.

Becasue with respect to humour, a basic sense of oportunity, grasp of context and timing are what make the difference between being funny or an utter dick-head. 

I certainly did not find it funny and am really very dissapointed to have seen this happen here.

Of course, YMMV.

A.

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#95 2019-04-07 04:42:22

ToxicExMachina
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
ToxicExMachina wrote:

It seems you don't know who genuine hackers are.

Panopticon wrote:

and no a cracker is not that white skinned person in a black skinned neighborhood!

Yes, I'm aware that I used the terminology incorrectly but only because to me a "cracker" is exactly what Panopticon's quote describes so I just used the lazy, inaccurate term.

The fact: you said "genuine hackers" - not "hackers". Do you want to continue the nonsense you doing?

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#96 2019-04-07 04:44:45

ToxicExMachina
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

What's bullshit?

"Cracker" is used as a derogatory term for Caucasians, as my Wikipedia link shows and also as you yourself commented.

Wikipedia is bullshit.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1983

cracker
      A cracker is an individual who attempts to access computer systems
      without authorization.  These individuals are often malicious, as
      opposed to hackers, and have many means at their disposal for
      breaking into a system.  See also: hacker, Computer Emergency
      Response Team, Trojan Horse, virus, worm.

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#97 2019-04-07 10:19:09

Head_on_a_Stick
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

ToxicExMachina wrote:

you said "genuine hackers" - not "hackers"

Yes, OK, fine, I admit it: I didn't know that the "correct" term for a person who maliciously infiltrates computer systems was "cracker" and that "hacker" is in fact an old term used by computer nerds. What an idiot I am roll

I've never read Eric S. Raymond's seminal How to Become a Hacker text and I certainly didn't get my avatar from his site here: http://www.catb.org/hacker-emblem/

So will you please stfu about this now and stop dragging this thread off topic? Thanks!

ToxicExMachina wrote:

Wikipedia is bullshit.

You are aware that words can have more than one meaning, right?

Anyway, I think we're begging the question here — language is fluid and meanings shift over time.


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#98 2019-04-07 10:22:38

golinux
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

I would not like to have to lock this thread so please get it together . . .  HOAS you are the odd man out here.

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#99 2019-04-07 10:25:44

Head_on_a_Stick
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

golinux wrote:

HOAS you are the odd man out here.

That's the way I like it, baby.


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#100 2019-04-07 10:32:06

golinux
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Re: What happened at devuan.org?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
golinux wrote:

HOAS you are the odd man out here.

That's the way I like it, baby.

You may find yourself sitting in a corner . . .

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