There's no sysvinit script included in the Debian package, but also no hard dependency on systemd so far as I can tell.

And there it is...

So guess who is really forcing in rust?

Well it's kind of down to interpretation:

https://www.sudo.ws/

I think that sums it up well.  But while the functionality to give a user the privileges to run all commands as root is there, that doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea.  It's just a statement of fact that it can be used for that (the rm command can also be used to delete all of your files, or just one, for example).

sudo has been around for a very long time:

So, yes not really needed for or designed for domestic / home users PCs.

Canonical/Ubuntu and a few others utilised it simply as a means to eliminate / hide the root account, in order to appease migrants from Windows, and to implement an environment with more "hand holding" (protecting users from themselves).  This was all based on the idea that users new Linux would do stupid things, such as running an X session or file manager as root.  From this you'd get breakage, and inevitably "back to Windows", which equates to bad press / reputation for the distribution - something Canonical as a commercial entity had wanted to avoid.

I would not rank sudo alongside other controversial or problematic software, such as systemd, wayland, pulseaudio, rust, etc...  and in the grand scheme of things, sudo's security track record isn't bad, when compared to those and to the Linux kernel itself.

But, if you don't use it, then I believe it's wise to remove it - that is if you're certain it's not being used by a script you may use/depend on without knowing it.

These were fixed back in June: https://git.sudo.ws/sudo/commit/?id=23aff2b37

To add some much needed perspective:

https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/15714/
https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/33/Linux.html

Yet none here seem concerned about running the Linux kernel...

I'm not convinced that the removal of Eich led to Mozilla's downfall, the decline of firefox and the rise of google chrome. It's just a symptom of a larger problem.

When chrome first appeared, it's important to take a few facts into account. At that time, both firefox and IE were still contenders, mobile computing was still in the early phase, and google were funding mozilla, as is still the case. Despite the funding, google employed aggressive marketing in a global campaign and used its growing dominance of the web to engineer firefox out. Coupled with that, key people at Mozilla, steered the project onto the rocks, whilst commanding large salaries and diverting funding away from firefox and onto side projects. So indirectly, google pay them and they in turn move the focus away from the project which is suppisefly being funded.

xenocara is OpenBSD's build system for x.org and not a fork of x.org ...

https://www.xenocara.org/

"It is not a fork"

So all the talk about that is largely pointless.

@zapper, If the developer of xlibre is a fascist, that should make no difference to you. Unless you live in a makeshift shelter in a forest and grow and hunt all your own food, never see a doctor, use any medicine, etc, then fascists could be involved in the supply chain of everything you use and consume on a daily basis.

Also, claiming someone is a "fascist" without providing reliable citations to back that up, is pretty much slander - and not so different from the tactics employeed in so called "cancel culture". Some supposedly very "woke" individuals tried that approach with Theodore Ts'o several years ago. "Useful idiots" abound, waiting to do the dirty work of big corporations, while believing they are fighting the good fight for social justice.

On the other hand, I doubt the gnome project are fascists - yet they spout the same woke nonsense as all other "Big Tech", because of course they are bankrolked and controlled by the aforementioned. If you are in fact "left wing" as you seem to claim to be, then the first step to enlightenment is gaining the understanding that "woke" and similar is a massive contrived smokescreen of indentity politics nonsenese, which skirts around the real problems in this world, to provide a devisive distraction to the electorate. While anyone is focused on the woke agenda, they will miss the bigger picture, while they are focused on the politics of free software development they may as well live in a cave. Most of the notable FOSS projects which started out as small hobby projects and embodied what free software was supposed to be about are now owned / controlled / funded / staffed / all of the above, by Big Tech. Even Microsoft is a player - who would have believed that 20 years ago? That ship has already sailed. Railing against, the admittedly deplorable, gnome project, is tantamount to raging at the sky.

We can argue over semantics all day and I mentioned Steam Deck already. There have been earlier attempts and you can't assume it's the final product.

I assumed Proton was based on WineX, as codeweavers were involved in it's development, but it indeed appears this is not the case. The point being however that this is all about Windows games running on Linux. That doesn't challenge point about Windows being the primary platform.

"Pay per play" is the wrong term, I admit... I'm referring to any of the modern platforms such as xbox or steam, but couldn't think of a better term. I'm old enoughto remember buying games on 5 1/4" disks.

Proprietary Steam platform? Proprietary games?

"...you're probably fine with running Windows SpyOS too."

Unfortunately Microsoft control PC gaming. A few native Linux ports and Steam's utilisation of "proton", which is a proprietary Wine variant (look up codeweavers and winex) doesnt prove otherwise.

If you think Valve are in the business to sell proprietary games on an OS that makes up only a few percent of the PC desktop/laptop market, and less than one percent of the PC gaming market, then I can only suggest that you do a little more research.

Valve's Steam platform is all about DRM and "pay per play". It's a proprietary platform designed to serve needs of big corporations - not users. It only runs on Linux, as a testing ground for a "console" of sorts...  Valve, as with MS, are not interested in desktop Linux users.

Ironically the only real competitor to xbox is playstation - and guess which OS their OS is based on?

Oh no, I haven't missed any points: Much drama about nothing at all. I just watch through the glass/bars. The only point I'm missing, is why the point needed proving. Your joke in the thread was enough.

@mrnhmath, you might care if they set their lawyers on you - and you're the low hanging fruit they will go after. Making a desktop called gnome/2 isn't a problem - but once you try distributing it, your problems will begin. You may be outside of the US but your methods of distribution may not be.

Getting out enough is quite important.  You can sit behind a screen most of the time and that can be enough for some.

My work means I'm sat at a computer (actually three computers...) most of the day. When I get home I try to do other things - same at the weekend. I have two kids, so we might go to the park, but not as often as we should - the weather doesn't help.

For single people, getting out means you might run into those other single people.

If going out to bars/clubs isn't for you, then you could get yourself enrolled on some kind of course. Failing that I suppose there are dating sites, less stigma attached to that these days. It's difficult these days to get talking to people. "Social media" seems to have made people more antisocial.